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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    hmmmm, Lets see:

    the drive is very tiring. Seats are very hard

    Well, I think thats always one's personal preference, assuming you drive a corolla usually, so yes definitely, the city has a hard drive.
    On a side notice, were the tyres ok? Tyre pressure?

    CVT's usualy accelerate slower then A/T and M/T's thats not issue, The car drove fantasticaly, i didnt feel a gear change at all (the RPM was constant too (from zero to 80 atleast). I had to lift my foot for the RPM to come down.

    The cvt isn't the same as AT tranny. And NO, cvt actually accelerates faster, its the L12a2 thats a bit sluggish in response.
    Plus, you aren't supposed to "feel" anything at all in a CVT car.

    Parked it at my home to inspect it, The car had lacqar all over it, (yes i have a khujli for genuine paints shine) Laquar simply cant have it.)

    Assuming you mean lacquer, well the shine is no issue. If you ask me, its just a matter of 2 hours to restore dead paint to its genuine shine.

    The when i planned to take the car back, i tried the N to D and N to R trick, and their was a minute trr on N to D, Which i guess people say is the sound so alert that somethings wrong.

    Their was buring smell when i parked the car in my garage (probably becuase a skreech braked to check brakes).

    and after parking, Their was quite too much phus... shurr... from the engine room as if somethings boiling. (is it normal) ?


    The car is having some serious issues, I doubt it to be a perfect piece. The maintenance hasn't been carried out probably. Transmission needs some work and phus phus phurr phurr could mean anything literally, no idea about that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    As of the knowledge I got from a very reliable source, yes I am sure. He told me that there is no difference between any electronics in honda city aspire. They have added mirror indicator, alloys and Satnav.
    Moreover, the key with aspire is ditto same as the 8th gen oriel key if you are familiar with it and so is the answer back function.

    I have 2012 city and an oriel as well to check but I have already installed steelmate system. So, if I come across a non aspire city of an acquaintance, I'll definitely give it a shot.

    The oriel key is for 6.5k from 3S shops, I am copy pasting the procedure used for civic, I was told that its the same for city as well.
    My dears, Aspire has immobilizer installed while non-aspire city does not. & hence genuine keyless cant be installed in it. I know Its a very very very bitter fact, but unfortunately that's how it is ..... mera dil bhi toot gya tha ye jaan ke....
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaux View Post
    My dears, Aspire has immobilizer installed while non-aspire city does not. & hence genuine keyless cant be installed in it. I know Its a very very very bitter fact, but unfortunately that's how it is ..... mera dil bhi toot gya tha ye jaan ke....
    Immobilizer? BIG NO bhai. You are mistaken.

    BTW, source of your info?
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    Quote Originally Posted by vaux View Post
    My dears, Aspire has immobilizer installed while non-aspire city does not. & hence genuine keyless cant be installed in it. I know Its a very very very bitter fact, but unfortunately that's how it is ..... mera dil bhi toot gya tha ye jaan ke....

    Keyless has nothing to do with the imbolizer being there or not, an audio add on and a keyless add was avalible for City before Aspire was launched.

    Altho keyless entry add-on was introduced for Civic VTI earlier.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    hmmmm, Lets see:

    the drive is very tiring. Seats are very hard

    Well, I think thats always one's personal preference, assuming you drive a corolla usually, so yes definitely, the city has a hard drive.
    On a side notice, were the tyres ok? Tyre pressure?

    CVT's usualy accelerate slower then A/T and M/T's thats not issue, The car drove fantasticaly, i didnt feel a gear change at all (the RPM was constant too (from zero to 80 atleast). I had to lift my foot for the RPM to come down.

    The cvt isn't the same as AT tranny. And NO, cvt actually accelerates faster, its the L12a2 thats a bit sluggish in response.
    Plus, you aren't supposed to "feel" anything at all in a CVT car.

    Parked it at my home to inspect it, The car had lacqar all over it, (yes i have a khujli for genuine paints shine) Laquar simply cant have it.)

    Assuming you mean lacquer, well the shine is no issue. If you ask me, its just a matter of 2 hours to restore dead paint to its genuine shine.

    The when i planned to take the car back, i tried the N to D and N to R trick, and their was a minute trr on N to D, Which i guess people say is the sound so alert that somethings wrong.

    Their was buring smell when i parked the car in my garage (probably becuase a skreech braked to check brakes).

    and after parking, Their was quite too much phus... shurr... from the engine room as if somethings boiling. (is it normal) ?


    The car is having some serious issues, I doubt it to be a perfect piece. The maintenance hasn't been carried out probably. Transmission needs some work and phus phus phurr phurr could mean anything literally, no idea about that.

    a) Sincerly, I hate Corolla too mostly because of the huge size, my Vitz has spoiled me

    b) The tires on the car wernt more then 50%

    c) I tried a Mira CVT vs Mira A/T and i felt the same, same goes with Passo and Vitz (1krfe) Passo doesnt has DBW and CVT.

    d) Once the lacquar is there, Genuine paint is covered by it, All you can do is clean the laquar, which with time becomes yellowish.

    e) The car is Honda maintained, But yes your right might not be the best, Since its a friends car maybe its perfect, But if the car turns out wrong il be saying bad things to the friend so its better be safe then sorry.

    f) Im not sure if id find a under 60k driven decent Honda City manual in my range (8.25-8.50) But lets see or else id have to keep looking.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    Yaar im going to test drive and check a honda city 02 exi tomorrow(sunday) i quickly want to know what to look for as the car is showered except the roof , where should i look for any signs of major accidents and what other things to look at while buying it . please let me know as soon as possible thanks
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Immobilizer? BIG NO bhai. You are mistaken.

    BTW, source of your info?
    At the time deciding either to go for aspire or not, i asked this honda gateway guy and thats what replied with. So that means Aspire has no Immobilizer as well??????

    if it doesnt, then there should be a way out for sure...im a big time fan of genuine keyless too....
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    Keyless has nothing to do with the imbolizer being there or not, an audio add on and a keyless add was avalible for City before Aspire was launched.

    Altho keyless entry add-on was introduced for Civic VTI earlier.
    I wish to find out a way to get a keyless installed in my car too bro...hope someone comes in with the solution for city...
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    When its come to CVT I never attracted to vario & dont know regarding mira , reema , passooo , bobluoo & muneee , available choices regarding the combination of Engine & CVT transmission in Pakistan ,I found Steermatic with L15A engine good choice

    Did you try any steermatic ? otherwise manual city is good I think

    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    Sorry Honda fans,

    But i didnt enjoy driving the vario too.

    I took my frineds car for spin, and brought it home to show it to my family, (yes the size and the color made me drool) But the drive is very tiring. Seats are very hard,

    CVT's usualy accelerate slower then A/T and M/T's thats not issue, The car drove fantasticaly, i didnt feel a gear change at all (the RPM was constant too (from zero to 80 atleast). I had to lift my foot for the RPM to come down.

    I did drive it slow, Harsh in every manner i could, It was simply good to drive,


    Parked it at my home to inspect it, The car had lacqar all over it, (yes i have a khujli for genuine paints shine) Laquar simply cant have it.)

    The when i planned to take the car back, i tried the N to D and N to R trick, and their was a minute trr on N to D, Which i guess people say is the sound so alert that somethings wrong.

    Their was buring smell when i parked the car in my garage (probably becuase a skreech braked to check brakes).

    and after parking, Their was quite too much phus... shurr... from the engine room as if somethings boiling. (is it normal) ?

    So im back to looking cars again, Since i dont wana buy a car and then cry specialy when im buying from a friend. It can be problematic in the future.
    Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
    a) Sincerly, I hate Corolla too mostly because of the huge size, my Vitz has spoiled me

    b) The tires on the car wernt more then 50%

    c) I tried a Mira CVT vs Mira A/T and i felt the same, same goes with Passo and Vitz (1krfe) Passo doesnt has DBW and CVT.

    d) Once the lacquar is there, Genuine paint is covered by it, All you can do is clean the laquar, which with time becomes yellowish.

    e) The car is Honda maintained, But yes your right might not be the best, Since its a friends car maybe its perfect, But if the car turns out wrong il be saying bad things to the friend so its better be safe then sorry.

    f) Im not sure if id find a under 60k driven decent Honda City manual in my range (8.25-8.50) But lets see or else id have to keep looking.
    http://www.pakwheels.com/forums/members-member-rides/266031-accord7362s-merc-thanks-god-loved-ones-who-remember-me-prayers ,199119-thanks-god-2011-ford-edge-limited-awd-3-5-v6

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    Quote Originally Posted by accord7362 View Post
    When its come to CVT I never attracted to vario & dont know regarding mira , reema , passooo , bobluoo & muneee , available choices regarding the combination of Engine & CVT transmission in Pakistan ,I found Steermatic with L15A engine good choice

    Did you try any steermatic ? otherwise manual city is good I think
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    @ accord. Haha mira reema., no havnt tried a steermatic, since vario nd steermatic are taboos i shud giv it a try thou, manual city's are atleast 50k higher priced then vario ones. Altho im still looking lets see

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    Nopes. Aspire doesnt have Immobilizer at all. its just keyless entry

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Oh... Good. awesome in fact. I met kaptaan sb after you had a Salim interchange meet with him, so he told me stuff about your car.

    You better finish the work off till we have GTG in january cz no one's gonna accept any excuse by then. All we'll want is a aunda city to look at.

    And monster spool, OoOoO, can't wait. :Off goes robm to look at the next lahore visit plan:
    Yar, awaih na apnay hopes high kar lena, its still just a daily runner, makes the school run, my office run, DC runs an all....will def def try to finish by Jan, an kaptan sahab da wi muh band nai renda.... This time make sure yer ride is there as well....bara muqabla husan hoga iss bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asad_B View Post
    She is also up for sale right now or for xchnge with eagle eys civic.......................03216023478 Asad from sargodha

    Do you want to Exchange it with Civic 2011 Oriel Manual?

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    hello guys...
    i have idsi with over 100k on odo. does any1 of you ever expeience a choke CAT?
    is it feasible to just clean the CAT n reinstall it?. 2003-2008 model.

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    i drove my iDSI - 2005 for 165k (entirely on petrol - no CNG) on the Odo before I sold it in Jan 2012. But I didn't have had any CAT related issue in that car. So i guess it all depends on the type of fuel you use.
    As for cleaning, I doubt you can get it cleaned properly. I guess you can consult Honda ppl b4 making any move, but I feel you have to replace the device altogether. Lets wait for some expert opinion from Pakwheelers on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aakbar View Post
    i drove my iDSI - 2005 for 165k (entirely on petrol - no CNG) on the Odo before I sold it in Jan 2012. But I didn't have had any CAT related issue in that car. So i guess it all depends on the type of fuel you use.
    As for cleaning, I doubt you can get it cleaned properly. I guess you can consult Honda ppl b4 making any move, but I feel you have to replace the device altogether. Lets wait for some expert opinion from Pakwheelers on this.

    thanks for the reply.. well m not experiencing any kinda CAT issue wid my car.. just curious to know abt CAT cleaning...

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    ^^ I don't really think that a CAT can be opened and cleaned. Because their is no "dirt" sort of thing accumulated in there that might "clog" the system.

    It just has a system of metallic wires woven into each other bearing chemicals which react with the green house gases in the exhaust system to make them harmless for our environment.

    It is usually replaced as one piece. Its sealed, can't be opened.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    ^^ I don't really think that a CAT can be opened and cleaned. Because their is no "dirt" sort of thing accumulated in there that might "clog" the system.

    It just has a system of metallic wires woven into each other bearing chemicals which react with the green house gases in the exhaust system to make them harmless for our environment.

    It is usually replaced as one piece. Its sealed, can't be opened.

    ok ..that thing is sealed, means its cannot be easily done. i have read the following threads regarding CAT's cleaning.. thts y asking.
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...cat-vitz-yaris
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/eng...s-out-my-yaris

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    ^^ I don't really think that a CAT can be opened and cleaned. Because their is no "dirt" sort of thing accumulated in there that might "clog" the system.

    It just has a system of metallic wires woven into each other bearing chemicals which react with the green house gases in the exhaust system to make them harmless for our environment.

    It is usually replaced as one piece. Its sealed, can't be opened.
    bro but they opened n cleaned in my vti hard top
    which caused the mal func lite turn off

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