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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Haha, JazakALLAH for the kind words brotha! Choti moti detailing lagai rakhta hun bas.

    Yes yes whenever you visit isb, drop me a call and we can meet inshAllah! And no problem for late reply.

    Btw, main to khud he interior matte finish me rakhta hun. U like shiny one?
    Seriously Yarr, I really Liked your Detailing, I've seen very few metallic cars with this kind of Shine, & I Like Shiny interior, but for you I meant that the Mats are little Dusty, Which needs to be some proper Cleaning . & Yarr im waiting when I'll come to Islamabad.
    Pakistan needs MaSsive Over-HAULING!! So either stay or Just Leave it!!

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    Ohhh, thanks a lot once again...

    For the mats, well yaar it was a bit rainy over here so the pics I posted were with the mats I use for muddy days. Because "achay" walay ganday ho jatay hain na.

    And yaar what are you talking about in bold? I think everyone z really nice and loving in our hood. We have so much fun along with the usual technical discussion.

    Do PM me if I can be of any help in this regard.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
    Seriously Yarr, I really Liked your Detailing, I've seen very few metallic cars with this kind of Shine, & I Like Shiny interior, but for you I meant that the Mats are little Dusty, Which needs to be some proper Cleaning . & Yarr im waiting when I'll come to Islamabad.

    & Yarr Honestly speaking, Its only you, Usman or Salman bhai, My only true Friends, Left here! For which I come to this Club. Im very sad & heart Broken that people change, & They constantly ignore some one who was really friendly in some times, but now they just see & just Past Sayin "Who was he?"
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    7.50 Lakhs is a good price for the vehicle.

    Quote Originally Posted by rath0re967 View Post
    AOa,what should be the price of 2004 city auto with cng lhr registered overall condition is good but there are slight touch ups....what should be the price ,ownerz asking 775
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    Quote Originally Posted by matrix1 View Post
    6.5 lac
    but the point is y he is selling na na throwing it at this price
    engine swapped n just showered 06 can easily fetch round about 9
    dont go 4 it

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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifaa View Post
    but the point is y he is selling na na throwing it at this price
    engine swapped n just showered 06 can easily fetch round about 9
    dont go 4 it
    he is a friend and selling it because he want to buy a new car......................well mai ne ye car ak dealer ko dekhaie ha.............he is saying that it is good for normal use

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    Quote Originally Posted by rath0re967 View Post
    AOa,what should be the price of 2004 city auto with cng lhr registered overall condition is good but there are slight touch ups....what should be the price ,ownerz asking 775
    with CNG

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    @ matrix1

    id suggest u dont buy that car cuz it will be a good deal and i dont wana mis it,,,, plz let me buy it from your friend lol....
    p.s i know a similar car,,,, personally provided support in its multiple trips to paint shops,, and engine swap... with just roof and 2 right side door in original paint and rest some parts once, some twice and some even 3 times painted, engine blown and changed at 170k along with clutch, throughout ran on CNG and 17 rim,,,, still a good daily runner (runs at least 100 km daily). at 190k now strong engine no issue in suspension or any thing (surprising due to 190k on 17 inch rim) and we still got a offer above 840 from jail road,,,
    So seriously dude if u don't wana buy that car let me know....
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    Quote Originally Posted by matrix1 View Post
    he is a friend and selling it because he want to buy a new car......................well mai ne ye car ak dealer ko dekhaie ha.............he is saying that it is good for normal use
    take the car to a couple of good mechanics
    and get it checked from every aspect
    if they say its good then consider it other wise leave it
    We bought a City 04 model in 600k but the catch was it was slightly repaired from the front left end and has a few rust spots but engine and transmission is in good nick
    and you are getting an 06 model in this price is pretty strange such a car would go 750k here

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    I wanted to know can this side mirror fit on an IDSI ?
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    Aoa all.
    My friend is having IDSI in pristine condition and he is getting 12km/l in local on stock configuration and stock rim size with light foot. If he drives it with heavy foot. Mileage drops down to even 11-10.5.. his car has clocked 44k kms. and thoroughly maintained from Honda classic. No mechanical issues in car etc.
    what could be the reason?
    On the other hand. My I-vtec is giving me 15km/l in local with mixed driving(heavy and light) and my car is running on 205/60/r15 and a muffler is installed too. my car has clocked 61k kms. it is also thoroughly maintained from honda classic. Strange it is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
    Seriously Yarr, I really Liked your Detailing, I've seen very few metallic cars with this kind of Shine, & I Like Shiny interior, but for you I meant that the Mats are little Dusty, Which needs to be some proper Cleaning . & Yarr im waiting when I'll come to Islamabad.

    & Yarr Honestly speaking, Its only you, Usman or Salman bhai, My only true Friends, Left here! For which I come to this Club. Im very sad & heart Broken that people change, & They constantly ignore some one who was really friendly in some times, but now they just see & just Past Sayin "Who was he?"
    Aww come on........chad na yar, itna senti honay ki kiya zaroorat hai, yahan sab good boys hain.......gtg par chalna....sab say jhappi dilwaounga aap ko....tension nai leni!!!
    OCD (Obsessive Compulsive Detailer)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sk_KingpiN View Post
    Aoa all.
    My friend is having IDSI in pristine condition and he is getting 12km/l in local on stock configuration and stock rim size with light foot. If he drives it with heavy foot. Mileage drops down to even 11-10.5.. his car has clocked 44k kms. and thoroughly maintained from Honda classic. No mechanical issues in car etc.
    what could be the reason?
    On the other hand. My I-vtec is giving me 15km/l in local with mixed driving(heavy and light) and my car is running on 205/60/r15 and a muffler is installed too. my car has clocked 61k kms. it is also thoroughly maintained from honda classic. Strange it is...
    What oil does he use in the car? Was the fuel filter replaced at 40K kms check up? IS the air filter clean enough? Spark plugs?

    ya...R18a swap to nai karwa rakha?
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    thank yew

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    It was time to spend some money on my Steermatic.. When I bought it 18 Months ago I got it mechanically checked and tuned (40000 KM Package from Honda Fort, Lahore) but couple of Cosmetic Items were missed... Roof Top Antenna in the pillar was broken and the Back View Mirror had rust in it and it was continuing to grow and making the visibility poor and also it was loose... I Bought these 2 genuine parts from Honda Sagoi, Montegomery Road yesterday..Antenna for PKR 1900 and Back View Mirror for PKR 1650..

    Also got the Engine Oil + Air Filter + Oil Filter replaced.. Genuine Honda Of Course... Now I have got peace of mind .. The Only thing remaining is the slight fluctuation of 7-Speed Mode, which I am going to put on hold for now as it is not that much of an issue...


    Here the complete Bill:

    Roof Top Antenna : 1900
    Back-View Mirror: 1650
    Honda Fully Sunthectic Engine Oil 5W/30: 2200
    Honga Genuine Air Filter: 1150
    Honda Genuine Oil Filter: 1100
    Total: PKR 8000
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    Today i am joining Honda City Fan Club as I have recently purchased Honda City 99 Neo Alhamdulillah will post pictures soon..

    Car was owned by MPA from Nawabshah and it was a daily runner at his farm house under use of his PA and servants so bought it in xtremely low price, car needs a suspension work immediately so get it checked all Bushes, rear shocks and tie rods needs to be change, kindly suggest me brand with prices and how much cost.

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    Assalam U alaiqum!
    I have just purchased Honda city vario 2007 Model currently always driven on Petrol(No CNG) with an odometer showing 65k.
    everything is in Stock condition so no extra weight has been added(Muffler,spoiler,side skirts etc etc).
    i just wanna know whats considered a normal mileage of honda city 2007 vario car?is 10-11km/Litre is good in Karachi?

    secondly apart from its maintenance schedule,which oil/air filter/oil filter should i use to get optimum results?

    JazakALLAH u khair

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    AoA Honda City Fans.

    I am plannin to buy a new city, please help me decide what version should i go for among the 4 variants currently available.
    Plus i just need to confirm that it's coming in titan interior only as told by the honda representative.

    Though it's a city fan club but i still have this at the back of my mind that i can stretch my budget to get civic base model too, my daily travelling is some 8Km only and a 2000Km trip to my home and back after 2months interval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    What oil does he use in the car? Was the fuel filter replaced at 40K kms check up? IS the air filter clean enough? Spark plugs?

    ya...R18a swap to nai karwa rakha?
    Bro it is thoroughly maintained from Honda classic. yes fuel filter was replaced on 40k.
    Haha no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haiderjaved View Post
    AoA Honda City Fans.

    I am plannin to buy a new city, please help me decide what version should i go for among the 4 variants currently available.
    Plus i just need to confirm that it's coming in titan interior only as told by the honda representative.

    Though it's a city fan club but i still have this at the back of my mind that i can stretch my budget to get civic base model too, my daily travelling is some 8Km only and a 2000Km trip to my home and back after 2months interval.
    anyone??

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    Quote Originally Posted by faizanrao View Post
    Assalam U alaiqum!
    I have just purchased Honda city vario 2007 Model currently always driven on Petrol(No CNG) with an odometer showing 65k.
    everything is in Stock condition so no extra weight has been added(Muffler,spoiler,side skirts etc etc).
    i just wanna know whats considered a normal mileage of honda city 2007 vario car?is 10-11km/Litre is good in Karachi?

    secondly apart from its maintenance schedule,which oil/air filter/oil filter should i use to get optimum results?

    JazakALLAH u khair
    well avg'z depends da way u drive ..... soft peddle , normal , or heavy/hard ......

    i have vario 2008 !

    getting 16.6 in city now a days .... and was getting 14 in city wid AC in summer .... RPM around 2 to 2.5 .... Oil change after 4000 to 4500 .... Honda Original pure synthtx Oil !

    tunning and all stuff , depends if she needs ! !

    the Average u mentioned is for r-18a wid very gentle/soft peddle ... or EXI .... I.dsi is much much better dan dat .... i wud say get it tunned ...
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