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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    So the ivtec city recently clocked 3K kms. And I had to go to a near by chakk on MM road. A corolla wanted to have fun so I thought why not give it a shot


    The road we have here is just like Motorway, though its two way traffic so its a bit dangerous. But mostly, there are truckers over here, if your car's brakes are reliable, a little fun isn't much issue. I pushed idsi beyond 170ph in pursuit of a R18a once.

    Two pics of the day, time was maghrib and this was the best my phone could do. Tried to snap close to the meter so that phone gets enough light to focus properly but as u know, at these speeds it isn't easy to click pics and not kill yourself at the same time

    Really became a fan of the feel and stability at these speeds. Idsi is a nightmare with 13" wheels but this one is perfect even with stock eurostars. Kaptaan sb has done it. Yokohama Advan dB is a cheese topping on the sporty concept of this car. I love it.

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    Though it did 190kph, but the pic wasn't focused properly. Before I could click again, I had to brake
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    speed wise new cow n city lolzzz no match

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    Recently, a brother was having problems regarding the CNG settings on his city. I quoted him the method I used (it rocked my car) and Alhamdolillah, he is veryyyy happy with his car now.

    Let me tell you something, City Idsi and ivtec is without any doubt, probably the sweetest car in its category when it comes to using CNG. If played with it the Pro way, it won't even let you feel that its on CNG. I give my word here.

    Mine has clocked something above 216K kms by now, out of which 170K kms are completely on CNG. Never ever gave me a problem unless under special circumstances, which can be solved without much hassle.

    acha, so sharing the method over here, for my fellow members. I suggest all of you tune your car according to these (DIY). It is very easy and I bet you'll feel a great great difference in the drive and feel of the car.

    -Get your car's jack, start it up. When on cng, press the accelerator pedal with the jack and accelerate to precisely 3k RPM level. Not more not less.

    -The jack might feel to be slipping, so once you achieve 3k, put a small heavy thing on jack such that it only stops it from slipping, doesn't press it further down, like a small piece of brick.

    -After this, observe the rpm needle for several seconds and assure that the rpm isn't moving now. Fixed on a point. like 3000, 3100 something but NOT moving.

    -Now, get urself a screw driver, use it to calibrate ur T bolt, not by ur hands, its not accurate that way.

    -First, tighten ur main T bolt, such that rpm decreases below 1.5k (note that accelerator position is to be kept rock hard FIXED) not to be moved during this. Now the rpm will only vary as the T bolt is tightened or loosened.

    -Now slowly, start opening it, when it reaches back to 3k (keep noticing the needle), open it further VERY VERY precisely, the rpm will increase further and will probably cross 3.8k.

    -Check and find an accurate spot where rpm doesn't increase further. Assure the spot by tightening the bolt a little and then opening it back to achieve the MAXIMUM rpm possible by the bolt. Don't open the bolt beyond this point.

    -After all this done, remove the jack and let the engine idle.

    -Now, start opening the small idle adjustment screw slowly, engine will start shuddering, do it slowly so that just as the engine shudders, you STOP opening further immediately or the engine will stall. DON'T accelerate the engine to keep from stalling.

    -Now start closing it slowly until the engine feels to be the smoothest. Try to find the spot where the rpms stabilize the most.

    -Check this by just slightly hitting the accelerator pedal (not pressing it, sirf jhatka dena hai so that engine revs up and comes back to idle by itself) look at the needle closely, the rpm should STOP at 800 or 750 and should not decrease beyond that and come back up.

    -This procedure will also help optimize ur engine to its best and the acceleration will improve a lot.

    -Try this and maintain the best accuracy possible because its a game of accuracy. Bhaan bhaan wali tuning done by our local ustaads is nothing.

    Human feet or hands aren't capable of maintaining constant RPM levels so use a jack and assure that pedal position does not change a millimeter during this procedure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifaa View Post
    maazy maro
    but thora hath hola sir g
    Heheheheh

    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifaa View Post
    speed wise new cow n city lolzzz no match
    Yaar ye baat aapko aur hamen pta ha, taxi drivers XLi ko formula one wali BUMB gaddi samajhty hain
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    Quote Originally Posted by incognito59 View Post
    almost a perfect finsih!

    I am out of words for praising the skills and the detailing work sir, MashAllah!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aakbar View Post
    Thanks Ahmedbila! I really appreciate it. It will be a short visit to a city I used to call home, or else would have bugged you.

    I am in F10 every weekend, so will try to check it from there, but usually I'm too bz (or rather too lazy) to do anything for the car. Wish I could take care of my car like you and so many other pakwheelers.
    oh, so u used to live in Sargodha. Nice to know that
    well do get the lights for ur car, u ll love the difference they ll make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    This is an ad, and a scam and NOT ALLOWED here. So just report it and chill.
    yeah seemed like an ad to me too but well, let the guy have some sales frm here. hamara kia jata hy abhi koe mod bhai aa jaengay tou scene off ho jaega
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    So the ivtec city recently clocked 3K kms. And I had to go to a near by chakk on MM road. A corolla wanted to have fun so I thought why not give it a shot


    The road we have here is just like Motorway, though its two way traffic so its a bit dangerous. But mostly, there are truckers over here, if your car's brakes are reliable, a little fun isn't much issue. I pushed idsi beyond 170ph in pursuit of a R18a once.

    Two pics of the day, time was maghrib and this was the best my phone could do. Tried to snap close to the meter so that phone gets enough light to focus properly but as u know, at these speeds it isn't easy to click pics and not kill yourself at the same time

    Really became a fan of the feel and stability at these speeds. Idsi is a nightmare with 13" wheels but this one is perfect even with stock eurostars. Kaptaan sb has done it. Yokohama Advan dB is a cheese topping on the sporty concept of this car. I love it.


    Though it did 190kph, but the pic wasn't focused properly. Before I could click again, I had to brake

    wow... 190 is SOME speed my man. i ve never driven on MM road but i hope its safe there. my recent experience on m2 has taught me that unless u have a racing/sports car, even m2 is not that safe for speeds more then 160km.h there are bumps n rough patches that show up when they are least expected to. anyways, killing cowrollas with city ivtec is tooo much fun they dont stand a chance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    I missed the corolla part, the guy decided not to give dippers anymore after I crossed 160

    EDIT: Oops, mine was the 7000th time the thread was posted so another
    aah... i HATE dippers frm corolla guys. it seems sum ppl have a tendency to play with sumthing long, round, stiff n mostly black... it keeps them entertained...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Recently, a brother was having problems regarding the CNG settings on his city. I quoted him the method I used (it rocked my car) and Alhamdolillah, he is veryyyy happy with his car now.

    Let me tell you something, City Idsi and ivtec is without any doubt, probably the sweetest car in its category when it comes to using CNG. If played with it the Pro way, it won't even let you feel that its on CNG. I give my word here.

    Mine has clocked something above 216K kms by now, out of which 170K kms are completely on CNG. Never ever gave me a problem unless under special circumstances, which can be solved without much hassle.

    acha, so sharing the method over here, for my fellow members. I suggest all of you tune your car according to these (DIY). It is very easy and I bet you'll feel a great great difference in the drive and feel of the car.

    -Get your car's jack, start it up. When on cng, press the accelerator pedal with the jack and accelerate to precisely 3k RPM level. Not more not less.

    -The jack might feel to be slipping, so once you achieve 3k, put a small heavy thing on jack such that it only stops it from slipping, doesn't press it further down, like a small piece of brick.

    -After this, observe the rpm needle for several seconds and assure that the rpm isn't moving now. Fixed on a point. like 3000, 3100 something but NOT moving.

    -Now, get urself a screw driver, use it to calibrate ur T bolt, not by ur hands, its not accurate that way.

    -First, tighten ur main T bolt, such that rpm decreases below 1.5k (note that accelerator position is to be kept rock hard FIXED) not to be moved during this. Now the rpm will only vary as the T bolt is tightened or loosened.

    -Now slowly, start opening it, when it reaches back to 3k (keep noticing the needle), open it further VERY VERY precisely, the rpm will increase further and will probably cross 3.8k.

    -Check and find an accurate spot where rpm doesn't increase further. Assure the spot by tightening the bolt a little and then opening it back to achieve the MAXIMUM rpm possible by the bolt. Don't open the bolt beyond this point.

    -After all this done, remove the jack and let the engine idle.

    -Now, start opening the small idle adjustment screw slowly, engine will start shuddering, do it slowly so that just as the engine shudders, you STOP opening further immediately or the engine will stall. DON'T accelerate the engine to keep from stalling.

    -Now start closing it slowly until the engine feels to be the smoothest. Try to find the spot where the rpms stabilize the most.

    -Check this by just slightly hitting the accelerator pedal (not pressing it, sirf jhatka dena hai so that engine revs up and comes back to idle by itself) look at the needle closely, the rpm should STOP at 800 or 750 and should not decrease beyond that and come back up.

    -This procedure will also help optimize ur engine to its best and the acceleration will improve a lot.

    -Try this and maintain the best accuracy possible because its a game of accuracy. Bhaan bhaan wali tuning done by our local ustaads is nothing.

    Human feet or hands aren't capable of maintaining constant RPM levels so use a jack and assure that pedal position does not change a millimeter during this procedure.

    what a $$PRICELESS$$ post yaaaaaaarrrrr! thankyou sooooooooooo much for writing it all for us. i ll definitely try it when the cng stations open here n will report the results... is post pay you have won urself a free lunch frm me Fawad, whenever u come to sargodha
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    The other day, when I was driving the car, I felt it to be a little heavier than usual in lower gears. But at speeds, the response wasn't bad. So I decided to check the only thing that could be the culprit, the Air Filter. Yes, the car had only 3K kms in one year but still.

    Here it is, when I opened it:

    Wah Yaar, kia baat hai, itna saaf

    Honda City Fan Club -1103009

    And when I took it out and turned it over:

    OMG! This is just after 3000 kms, the filters that we usually keep for two or three oil changes, means more than 12000 kms!

    Honda City Fan Club -1103010


    The purpose of sharing all this here, is that the air filter is mostly ignored by everyone to be the culprit behind tuning issues of a car. This is the OEM honda filter which has a great deal of sticky oil on it. It works more like mucus in our respiratory passages in order to block the dirt.

    Cheap filters like guard and stuff don't have sufficient oils and thus most of the dirt doesn't stick and hence doesn't show up. In my opinion, a filter that can be tumbled to get some dust and dirt off of it is the worst.

    Its designed to stick the dirt in it, not let it go easily. I rammed this one on the wall several times but not even a single particle came off of it. Blowing pressurized air onto it might be a way but still, replacement by a good one after every 6000kms to a maximum is a MUST in our environment.

    So all of the fellows reading this, don't ignore air filter in ur vehicles. Or it may cause trouble for you in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    wow... 190 is SOME speed my man. i ve never driven on MM road but i hope its safe there. my recent experience on m2 has taught me that unless u have a racing/sports car, even m2 is not that safe for speeds more then 160km.h there are bumps n rough patches that show up when they are least expected to. anyways, killing cowrollas with city ivtec is tooo much fun they dont stand a chance.
    True! Though now I mostly know where the bad spots are but the chances of discovering a new one can never be ruled out.

    And MM road is in a great shape, there ARE some bad patches, I mean very bad ones but a few. And they don't surprise you, you can easily detect them, even in the night, provided that your headlights' visibility is sufficient enough.

    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    aah... i HATE dippers frm corolla guys. it seems sum ppl have a tendency to play with sumthing long, round, stiff n mostly black... it keeps them entertained...
    Veryyy Well said yaar! Absolutely true for those More ONs! I was about to over take a trucker, it was a long one so before I started the overtake, I took a few seconds to make sure there isn't gonna be anything else in my way.

    And then this guy shows up with horns and dippers as exclaiming "nikaaal b sahi yaar, ki hogya phudoo driver ho koi"

    It was then I decided to let him roll a bit with me and after 140, he had no chance. Saara rasta araam se peechay laga aaya phr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    wow... 190 is SOME speed my man. i ve never driven on MM road but i hope its safe there. my recent experience on m2 has taught me that unless u have a racing/sports car, even m2 is not that safe for speeds more then 160km.h there are bumps n rough patches that show up when they are least expected to. anyways, killing cowrollas with city ivtec is tooo much fun they dont stand a chance.
    us waqt un k cehry deakhny like hoty han
    bro what happened to ur RL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    what a $$PRICELESS$$ post yaaaaaaarrrrr! thankyou sooooooooooo much for writing it all for us. i ll definitely try it when the cng stations open here n will report the results... is post pay you have won urself a free lunch frm me Fawad, whenever u come to sargodha
    haha, thanks a million ,you made my day kaptaan sb!

    Do try it and let me know. If having confusions of ANY sort (open to everyone), just tell me and I'll come up with ample pics for the clarification inshAllah.

    And lunch chorain sir, aapko to pata he hai main khaanay ka kitna shokeen hoon Purpose tou ek he hota hai, spending some time with you and having a good gup shup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifaa View Post
    us waqt un k cehry deakhny like hoty han
    bro what happened to ur RL?
    Something happened? What happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    I am out of words for praising the skills and the detailing work sir, MashAllah!
    Thanks a lot. But please dont drive at 190 and take pics simultaneously, that is a BIG risk.
    life is but wheels!

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    Some pictutes with this detailed post would be a great help. Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Recently, a brother was having problems regarding the CNG settings on his city. I quoted him the method I used (it rocked my car) and Alhamdolillah, he is veryyyy happy with his car now.

    Let me tell you something, City Idsi and ivtec is without any doubt, probably the sweetest car in its category when it comes to using CNG. If played with it the Pro way, it won't even let you feel that its on CNG. I give my word here.

    Mine has clocked something above 216K kms by now, out of which 170K kms are completely on CNG. Never ever gave me a problem unless under special circumstances, which can be solved without much hassle.

    acha, so sharing the method over here, for my fellow members. I suggest all of you tune your car according to these (DIY). It is very easy and I bet you'll feel a great great difference in the drive and feel of the car.

    -Get your car's jack, start it up. When on cng, press the accelerator pedal with the jack and accelerate to precisely 3k RPM level. Not more not less.

    -The jack might feel to be slipping, so once you achieve 3k, put a small heavy thing on jack such that it only stops it from slipping, doesn't press it further down, like a small piece of brick.

    -After this, observe the rpm needle for several seconds and assure that the rpm isn't moving now. Fixed on a point. like 3000, 3100 something but NOT moving.

    -Now, get urself a screw driver, use it to calibrate ur T bolt, not by ur hands, its not accurate that way.

    -First, tighten ur main T bolt, such that rpm decreases below 1.5k (note that accelerator position is to be kept rock hard FIXED) not to be moved during this. Now the rpm will only vary as the T bolt is tightened or loosened.

    -Now slowly, start opening it, when it reaches back to 3k (keep noticing the needle), open it further VERY VERY precisely, the rpm will increase further and will probably cross 3.8k.

    -Check and find an accurate spot where rpm doesn't increase further. Assure the spot by tightening the bolt a little and then opening it back to achieve the MAXIMUM rpm possible by the bolt. Don't open the bolt beyond this point.

    -After all this done, remove the jack and let the engine idle.

    -Now, start opening the small idle adjustment screw slowly, engine will start shuddering, do it slowly so that just as the engine shudders, you STOP opening further immediately or the engine will stall. DON'T accelerate the engine to keep from stalling.

    -Now start closing it slowly until the engine feels to be the smoothest. Try to find the spot where the rpms stabilize the most.

    -Check this by just slightly hitting the accelerator pedal (not pressing it, sirf jhatka dena hai so that engine revs up and comes back to idle by itself) look at the needle closely, the rpm should STOP at 800 or 750 and should not decrease beyond that and come back up.

    -This procedure will also help optimize ur engine to its best and the acceleration will improve a lot.

    -Try this and maintain the best accuracy possible because its a game of accuracy. Bhaan bhaan wali tuning done by our local ustaads is nothing.

    Human feet or hands aren't capable of maintaining constant RPM levels so use a jack and assure that pedal position does not change a millimeter during this procedure.

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    and bro also dont try it on COLD Engine
    as it vary in both cold and hot states
    adjust it after some drive or let the Radiator fan work once.
    plz correct if wrong

    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Recently, a brother was having problems regarding the CNG settings on his city. I quoted him the method I used (it rocked my car) and Alhamdolillah, he is veryyyy happy with his car now.

    Let me tell you something, City Idsi and ivtec is without any doubt, probably the sweetest car in its category when it comes to using CNG. If played with it the Pro way, it won't even let you feel that its on CNG. I give my word here.

    Mine has clocked something above 216K kms by now, out of which 170K kms are completely on CNG. Never ever gave me a problem unless under special circumstances, which can be solved without much hassle.

    acha, so sharing the method over here, for my fellow members. I suggest all of you tune your car according to these (DIY). It is very easy and I bet you'll feel a great great difference in the drive and feel of the car.

    -Get your car's jack, start it up. When on cng, press the accelerator pedal with the jack and accelerate to precisely 3k RPM level. Not more not less.

    -The jack might feel to be slipping, so once you achieve 3k, put a small heavy thing on jack such that it only stops it from slipping, doesn't press it further down, like a small piece of brick.

    -After this, observe the rpm needle for several seconds and assure that the rpm isn't moving now. Fixed on a point. like 3000, 3100 something but NOT moving.

    -Now, get urself a screw driver, use it to calibrate ur T bolt, not by ur hands, its not accurate that way.

    -First, tighten ur main T bolt, such that rpm decreases below 1.5k (note that accelerator position is to be kept rock hard FIXED) not to be moved during this. Now the rpm will only vary as the T bolt is tightened or loosened.

    -Now slowly, start opening it, when it reaches back to 3k (keep noticing the needle), open it further VERY VERY precisely, the rpm will increase further and will probably cross 3.8k.

    -Check and find an accurate spot where rpm doesn't increase further. Assure the spot by tightening the bolt a little and then opening it back to achieve the MAXIMUM rpm possible by the bolt. Don't open the bolt beyond this point.

    -After all this done, remove the jack and let the engine idle.

    -Now, start opening the small idle adjustment screw slowly, engine will start shuddering, do it slowly so that just as the engine shudders, you STOP opening further immediately or the engine will stall. DON'T accelerate the engine to keep from stalling.

    -Now start closing it slowly until the engine feels to be the smoothest. Try to find the spot where the rpms stabilize the most.

    -Check this by just slightly hitting the accelerator pedal (not pressing it, sirf jhatka dena hai so that engine revs up and comes back to idle by itself) look at the needle closely, the rpm should STOP at 800 or 750 and should not decrease beyond that and come back up.

    -This procedure will also help optimize ur engine to its best and the acceleration will improve a lot.

    -Try this and maintain the best accuracy possible because its a game of accuracy. Bhaan bhaan wali tuning done by our local ustaads is nothing.

    Human feet or hands aren't capable of maintaining constant RPM levels so use a jack and assure that pedal position does not change a millimeter during this procedure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kn_khipk View Post
    Some pictutes with this detailed post would be a great help. Thanks!
    Indeed sir, consider it done!


    Quote Originally Posted by murtazee View Post
    and bro also dont try it on COLD Engine
    as it vary in both cold and hot states
    adjust it after some drive or let the Radiator fan work once.
    plz correct if wrong
    Absolutely TRUE! My bad I didn't mention it earlier. Post edited and content added, JazakAllah for the post sir!
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    Quote Originally Posted by incognito59 View Post
    Thanks a lot. But please dont drive at 190 and take pics simultaneously, that is a BIG risk.
    JazakAllah Anis Sir! Yes it indeed is dangerous, but I tried it as the light was too, say uneven for a 5mp camera to focus properly so I held it in my hand and clicked without watching it.

    And I am a calm driver, just tried it for the first time on city. I don't cross 140kph even if in extreme hurry.

    P.S Missed your photography skills a lot on the GTG sir!
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