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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shahidims View Post
    Am sick of this dabba honda city 2010 now. just 2 years and 4 months old. mileage is 39300 km. kabhi cheen cheen. te kabhi choon choon. honda walon ke paas le ja le ja ke thak chuka. those ******** dont know a **** about it.
    Today it started giving sound of a Riksha. that is soooo embarassing. despite doing regular cheups from MF honda 3S, I dont know why it is giving the Riksha sound. called Honda people, as usual they only know making bills and nothing else. i request all of you, please help me out how to solve the Riksha sound problem. Should I suo honda mother fuckers?
    I would like to ask the Pakistani population, please don't waste you mony. dont ever go for Honda City. I am pissed off. and dont know how to get rid of this ****.
    shahid bhai, what went wrong? no one has ever complained so much about a city. my idsi now has 260k kms n is still doing fine! did u try to find out whats the problem? a close friend also owns a 2010 and it has done 75000kms n is going strong! another one has a CNG-ed 2009 and its also doing great!
    These 3S guys are stealers! dont go to them for every small task. i ve managed to stay away from them for about 4 years now, i still get top quality work done from local mecahnics (gud ones offcourse)

    please explain ur problem a little bit. what wrong with it? any symptoms etc? as a combined, large group, theres hardly any problem we havent found solution of which. urs will have one too n someone here wud certainly help u. so cool down n try to explain whats going on with ur car...
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    Quote Originally Posted by CiviC2011 View Post
    Bro my manual city 13' is giving 13 in city any ideas?

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    wow... u ve quoted a post from page 1 anyways, 13km/ltr in city is not too bad. but u ll be happy to learn that it will certainly increase with the passage of time and kms on ur odometer. ur car is in the break-in period im assuming. it ll perform much better after a few thousand kms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engrsahab760 View Post
    How about installing civic 05 meter in city 05?
    any comments
    would require a lot of alterations. not recommended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    wow... u ve quoted a post from page 1 anyways, 13km/ltr in city is not too bad. but u ll be happy to learn that it will certainly increase with the passage of time and kms on ur odometer. ur car is in the break-in period im assuming. it ll perform much better after a few thousand kms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engrsahab760 View Post
    How about installing civic 05 meter in city 05?
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    Bad Idea, not recommended. The dash cluster chassis of the civic ES is a lot different than your city, let alone the electronic incompatibilities.
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    Last week my car's left front side started dug dug sound at jumps and after inspection the mechanic pressed the control arm ball joints and the problem solved. However, the mechanic advised that as the car has done 160,000 Kilometers so i should go through all suspension work which includes new shocks and other parts.

    Now i need views from senior members should i go for suspension work and where to buy parts. Is it worth purchasing kabli shocks? if new are recomended then which brand and any price idea. One more thing which parts other than shocks should be changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3170 View Post
    Last week my car's left front side started dug dug sound at jumps and after inspection the mechanic pressed the control arm ball joints and the problem solved. However, the mechanic advised that as the car has done 160,000 Kilometers so i should go through all suspension work which includes new shocks and other parts.

    Now i need views from senior members should i go for suspension work and where to buy parts. Is it worth purchasing kabli shocks? if new are recomended then which brand and any price idea. One more thing which parts other than shocks should be changed.
    You didn't mention the model and year of City you are talking about. Personally I would go with kabuli parts especially those who ain't subject to regular wear and tear but for suspension i would never ever advise you to go for it. Instead go for the genuine honda parts. I know those are very expensive but this is about suspension of your car which is critical in terms of its safety apart from functionality. Also, don't try to go for shortcuts even in choosing the shops from where you would buy until and unless you are 100% sure if a particular shop has genuince parts. I'd stick with Honda auto parts shops/3S dealers in this case. This simple suggestion is based on the assumption that you love your car and would like to keep it for considerable time in future. Rest is your choice.

    As for parts replacement, it depends on what suspension parts are in bad shape and require replacement. It would start from Z-joint bushes, Rack ends, ball joints etc. apart from shocks and recoils. So better get with a reliable mechanic for the advice after complete inspection and assessment of your car.

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    @akbar
    Thank brother for detailed reply. My car is 2005 idsi. Inshallah as per ur advise I'll opt genuine Honda parts but the prices at 3s shops are very high compare to local market. do u know about any good shop in IBd/Rwp having genuine parts.

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    guys, thuk thuk thuk sounds from right side of front suspension under heavy acceleration (1st n 2nd gear). What could it be? to me it sounds like it could be the front axle. the boots are fine, no grease leak etc. anyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 3170 View Post
    Last week my car's left front side started dug dug sound at jumps and after inspection the mechanic pressed the control arm ball joints and the problem solved. However, the mechanic advised that as the car has done 160,000 Kilometers so i should go through all suspension work which includes new shocks and other parts.

    Now i need views from senior members should i go for suspension work and where to buy parts. Is it worth purchasing kabli shocks? if new are recomended then which brand and any price idea. One more thing which parts other than shocks should be changed.

    unless u hear some sound from it or the suspension behaves in ways its not supposed to, NO need to change anything! suspension repairs/replacement is a damn expensive job and a messy one too. i know it bcuz i ve gone through it. so i wud say keep using the car like it is for as long as theres no issue.
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    if no problem then dont replace anything, Btw kabli part are not that bad, its ur luck how much they are used before. I had kabli
    damper (Shock=damper+spring) in my city and its going very fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    guys, thuk thuk thuk sounds from right side of front suspension under heavy acceleration (1st n 2nd gear). What could it be? to me it sounds like it could be the front axle. the boots are fine, no grease leak etc. anyone?
    I think it is the axle sound recently my mehran had same noise, It got so worse that when I used to brake the voice the voice used to come as well, but the sound was only in straight line not on turning. The boots in my mehran were fine and no leak as well but the axles gave up

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    I think it is the axle sound recently my mehran had same noise, It got so worse that when I used to brake the voice the voice used to come as well, but the sound was only in straight line not on turning. The boots in my mehran were fine and no leak as well but the axles gave up
    what exactly would be wrong with the axle? the CV join is dead? the sound in mine is also only when accelerated in straight line, not on turns.
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    Help required:
    My 2006 City gives severe jerk while driving and sometime engine gets switched off also with a patakha type sound as well. Showed to mechanic, He saying that replace CAM SENSOR. Any sensor with this name exist? He said for 1500rs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86 View Post
    Help required:
    My 2006 City gives severe jerk while driving and sometime engine gets switched off also with a patakha type sound as well. Showed to mechanic, He saying that replace CAM SENSOR. Any sensor with this name exist? He said for 1500rs.
    Yahan b likh dia

    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Same problem is with my car! But just a slight thing, it jerks on CNG only, patakha b cng pe maarti hai. Not on petrol, if check light isn't showing up, I doubt its a sensor. btw, this is a wrong post, post it in Honda city fan club.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    what exactly would be wrong with the axle? the CV join is dead? the sound in mine is also only when accelerated in straight line, not on turns.
    In my case yes CV joint was dead. Its called KUPPA in desi language. The part of axle which goes inside the gear box is responsible for that. I think its called inner CV joint. The sound while turning is caused by outer axle joint one that is attached with the wheels. But In my mehran the sound came from the left side. If the sound is coming from right side than you can have a look at foundations as well maybe one of them has worn out and the engine is vibrating thus creating sound

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engrsahab760 View Post
    How about installing civic 05 meter in city 05?
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    A Fit 1.5S Speedo meter would be a better option
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    hahaha so sorry @ all actuall i opened both tabs and then mistakenly typed there. Tried to edit but failed
    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86 View Post
    Help required:
    My 2006 City gives severe jerk while driving and sometime engine gets switched off also with a patakha type sound as well. Showed to mechanic, He saying that replace CAM SENSOR. Any sensor with this name exist? He said for 1500rs.
    I would say to check all the ignition related parts like coils, spark plugs also check iacv and maf sensor also check tps. I dont think that cam sensor go off that easily. Also go for OBD II scanner scan

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