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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TarY View Post
    I also faced same problem some days back but i just opened the power buttons panel and cleaned it with brush and petrol now it is working fine. Only Driver side button was cleaned and it worked. you can do it yourself not much sophisticated.

    issue resolved. i had already done that. problem was with the battery.

    Bought a new batter just a few days ago but on the way to rwp, the car refused to start!!! had to push start it. went back to battery wala n got the battery replaced. Mothertrucker had given me a used (probably repaired) battery!!! no its fine! all the electronics are back in full swing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeAar View Post
    Salamz All,

    Hope everyone of my friends here doing alright. Please let me know what is the price range for City 2010 (Clean car with 30-40 KM on ODO) in Islamabad / Lahore.

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    Danish bhai where have u been? long time no see why are u interested in car rates of lahore, long ago u told me u were planning to shift to lahore, is that operation undergoing or being planned? btw, it would depend on a lot of factors. condition, mileage, color, manual/auto. im not up to date with city ivtec rates but my very rough estimate is 1300k. u gotta check the for sale section for that.
    what else going on? everything gud i hope??
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    Had a trip to Chakwal today. Left around 11am and came back at 8pm. 277kms round trip. Sargodha to kallar kahar interchange to Chakwal. the road from KK to chakwal is fun to drive. really enjoyed the bends in the road.

    anyways, heres a post to motivate people to get fog lamps installed in their cars. and this is my second post of this kind. take a look at these pix, the camera sucks and the ISO was set too low to capture the light properly. the light in reality is almost 50% more then u can see in the pix. fog lamps hardly help for distant visibility. but they keep the shoulders of the road well lit for u even if some Cowrolla guy is hitting u hard with his two sets of HIDs right in your face. rest i ll let the pix convince u people.
    *caaman peepal caaman peeple, get fooogg laaaaamppss*
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    got new LED strips in the door ajar light. im not a fan of white light but really wanted a bright light in the car so got it. 100rs total result is gud enough. also check out my self defense artillery in the trunk n oh, the carpet is out for a month. had some oil spilled onto it, gotta find time to wash it with petrol.
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    Some random shots of some private parts of the work horse the car traveled nearly 300 kms today n more then 1500kms in the last week. no time to get washed!! i like car either sparkling clean or super dirty, for now, super dirty is "IN". kamzoor dil detailer hazraat apnay rizk pay yeh tasveerain daikhain, kisi kisam k nuksaan ki surat mai intezamia zimedar nahi hogi
    theres some oil on some undercarriage and suspension parts. thats because both, engine oil n tranmission oil were recently changed. some suspension work on control arms was also done n some is yet to be done.

    Tires o Tires! My lovely Yokohama C drives! no something to be too much proud of but i ve loved them every second i ve driven the car on them! everything from high speed driving to bone shattering drives on bad roads, they do well. I got them in October last year (2012) and they ve done close to 22000kms already! still have about 60% of life left in them. should be fine until 50k kms i guess.

    The car was bought by me brand new, in late 2006, it has 6 years and about 3 months of life in it. the per day average mileage is around 114kms. that means that even at this time when its resting in the garage, cooling down its engine oil after a days long journey, its doing 4.75km/h average this means that ever since the day it left the showroom as a shiny, brand new car, not knowing what hell its gonna go through in the hands of the merciless owner, it has been doing 4.75km/hr continuously without a break, for the past 6+ years. well, this is one way of putting it! This here, Gentlemen, is a truly loyal and faithful tiny little piece if machinery! dont look at its dirty skin, look at its aching feet despite having which, it comes to life every morning on the slightest twist of my hand and says with it shaky, rattling but SURE and OBEDIENT voice "At ur service, sir" and then runs around the city for countless hours, without a break, on a fuel it was never meant to be driven on!
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    Let me show u guys some receipts of the horse's doctor visits and his feed bills. Please ignore my rediculously dirty hand writing and that stupid words "maintained by" bla bla. back in the teenages i though i was maintaining a lamborhgini n it was something to be very proud of lol.

    anyways, i ve kept my suppliers/mechanics unchanged for a long time. i would show u some of the receipts. i buy certain things from certain shops in Sargodha n if they are out of stock, i WAIT!!! Niazi Autos is Sargodha's best parts providers for most cars, n specially Hondas (he was the first one in here to having Honda parts in his inventory) Afzal is my allignment guy for a long time. some Honda 3S bills are also there but they are from the time when i didnt know how awful mechanics they actually were! after the first 80k or 100k kms, i never went back into that steelership.
    Nostalgia kicks in YO when i saw that invoice today that said "Milage: 1011kms" lol. i remember taking the car in for its first free checkup. where all they do is absolutely nothing and u shall be thankful to them to take out time from their not-so-busy-at-all routine n spend 5 mins inspecting ur car in a way no car should ever be inspected. look at their professionalism, on one invoice u can see a warranty being given. written in urdu just as a foot note. n how long is the warranty? 1 month. lol. oh wait, thats a "2 months" corrected to 1 month. lol. a DADDU CHARGER (universal cell phone battery charger made in China) offers a better warranty package then that. anyways, u can see all sort of invoices. body n mechanical parts, clips n 'makhiaan'. allignment balancing, oil changes etc etc. these are only a few. i havent kept complete service history of the car as the purpose is not use it as a plus point while selling the car, its about self satisfaction.
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    Its raining "likes" from somewhere around NewFoundland, Canada. Good to see that

    n oh, heres a mileage shot as at 15th March, 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Some random shots of some private parts of the work horse the car traveled nearly 300 kms today n more then 1500kms in the last week. no time to get washed!! i like car either sparkling clean or super dirty, for now, super dirty is "IN". kamzoor dil detailer hazraat apnay rizk pay yeh tasveerain daikhain, kisi kisam k nuksaan ki surat mai intezamia zimedar nahi hogi
    theres some oil on some undercarriage and suspension parts. thats because both, engine oil n tranmission oil were recently changed. some suspension work on control arms was also done n some is yet to be done.

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    lay lay hamaree lay lay Aikhir tuu Kaptannn hayy

    Acha tu super dirty IN hay , ok ok let me dig super dirty for you

    Aik tasveer woo bhee dal doon which I pulled after this , phir same result niklnaa paray gaaa
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    Quote Originally Posted by accord7362 View Post
    lay lay hamaree lay lay Aikhir tuu Kaptannn hayy

    Acha tu super dirty IN hay , ok ok let me dig super dirty for you

    Aik tasveer woo bhee dal doon which I pulled after this , phir same result niklnaa paray gaaa
    hahaahahahaa... bara jigra hy apka Amir bhai! mai tou soch rha tha itni gandagi daikh k kuch din k liay thread say faraar ho jaengay ap btw, yeh shaid ik bar he itni gandi hui thi 132 number or osi din subha i think aap nay kafi jaan mari thi detailing pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    hahaahahahaa... bara jigra hy apka Amir bhai! mai tou soch rha tha itni gandagi daikh k kuch din k liay thread say faraar ho jaengay ap btw, yeh shaid ik bar he itni gandi hui thi 132 number or osi din subha i think aap nay kafi jaan mari thi detailing pay
    ha ha baree dafa mud O mud hoiee hay or har dafa hee jaan mari hayy the below picture is after all the mehnat & if you notice tires still not dress completely
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    yet some more...
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    o bhainsss ki takkar!!! meri wali tou jab showroom say nikal rhi thi tab bhi itni shiny nahi thi but then, i am not the master detailer, YOU are
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    Some very old pix of the car, when it was young and in its full glory... Gone with the wind, are the days....

    I hope im not posting too much useless stuff. log bore na ho rhay hon. no worries, this shall be my last such post for today. im feeling sleepy now. slept only 4 hrs last night n then drove around all day. gotta go now... thought i'd kick up the thread...
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    OMG you need a separate Munshi for that book

    indeed you are doing a great job & she is doing even grater
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    lol @ the pic modified on MS paint
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    hey ahmed billa...how are you ? can't see usman bhai in the threds these days......

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    @a_n_memon88: really sorry for late reply. could not get online for a while and over looked this detailed reply. (my fault). really appreciate the detailed reply. thank you. BTW my usage is not that limited. the car drives around average 10 kms daily however i do take it for a long drive on motorway after about a couple of months (due to work).
    latest : got fuel pump replaced with kabli... the problem lingers on.
    now from where in lahore can i get these things checked i.e. emulator, ECU codes and injector cleaning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by farazahmed View Post
    @a_n_memon88: really sorry for late reply. could not get online for a while and over looked this detailed reply. (my fault). really appreciate the detailed reply. thank you. BTW my usage is not that limited. the car drives around average 10 kms daily however i do take it for a long drive on motorway after about a couple of months (due to work).
    latest : got fuel pump replaced with kabli... the problem lingers on.
    now from where in lahore can i get these things checked i.e. emulator, ECU codes and injector cleaning?
    In which area of lahore do you live. There is a mechanic in samanabad who did this all on my car if you want we can have him take a look at your car. He has OBD II scanner and would be able to identify any code errors. He is also an electrician and will also check the emulator and for injector cleaning he uses the desi method which did not work in my case. But since your car is onyl 43k driven so no problem of injectors. I think the most common cause can be the emulator for that a capable mechanic can bypass the system and see if all things are fine or not. Do you have the old fuel pump with your car or not may be the kabli pump is not too good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drabdulrahman View Post
    hey ahmed billa...how are you ? can't see usman bhai in the threds these days......
    Usman bhai is here bhai jan, just been screwed with work.....though after the enormous shahkari pics Ahmad, here are some to soothe the detailer hazrat......pure bliss....city at its best!
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    Wow

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