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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Default city 2000-02 vs city 2009-10

    Thanks Ahmed for ur feedback.
    how would u compare new city with 2000-02 model. i hav 2002 model exis and driven the new one. i felt it has more power than the last model. but not more than the 2002 exis. would u agree with me? and regarding the consumption my cousin hav it in lhr and his feedback is that its mileage is low around 10-11 km/ltr in city with ac.

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    @ahmed: brother, can u please tell me some info regarding honda city 3 gen 03-05's mileage on petrol? we are looking for city on cng but there are rarely any available and most of them are on petrol. and we currently own a 93 mehran and the mileage/litre it gives us is very low. so this some kind of phobia has hit my dads head that the same will happen if we buy a city on petrol. so can u please tell me. and also some people on pakwheels told me that city 03-05 is a big failure on cng. is this true?
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    thanks ahmadbila but difference between i-vtec and vtec not cleared, is it only selling new cars gimmik?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cityrider View Post
    Thanks Ahmed for ur feedback.
    how would u compare new city with 2000-02 model. i hav 2002 model exis and driven the new one. i felt it has more power than the last model. but not more than the 2002 exis. would u agree with me? and regarding the consumption my cousin hav it in lhr and his feedback is that its mileage is low around 10-11 km/ltr in city with ac.
    Brother i think that 01-03 shape city was the BEST and perfectly balanced honda city ever produced.i had it for a short time an it was excellent.As for the performance, you are right, a well maintained 01 city can still smoke a brand new vtec city.the reason is that the d13 hyper-valve of the 01 cuty produced 95bhp and the L13a vtec engine on city 2010 produces 100bhp. just 5bhp more but a lot of more weight to carry around, so the 01 city wud certainly be faster...
    Regarding the fuel economy of new city, keep in mind that when the car is new, its NOT performing at its peak... performance, mileage etc slowly gets better after a new car hits 5000kms mark... so if ur cuzns car is brand new, he has to wait for some time to get the true mileage of the car, which is generally 13-15km/ltr in local driving with ac and can go upto 20km/ltr on highways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Born2Race View Post
    @ahmed: brother, can u please tell me some info regarding honda city 3 gen 03-05's mileage on petrol? we are looking for city on cng but there are rarely any available and most of them are on petrol. and we currently own a 93 mehran and the mileage/litre it gives us is very low. so this some kind of phobia has hit my dads head that the same will happen if we buy a city on petrol. so can u please tell me. and also some people on pakwheels told me that city 03-05 is a big failure on cng. is this true?

    Yar theres no other locally assembled car in pakistan which can match the fuel economy of a city idsi or even the new city... though there are a lot of factors contributing to the fuel economy figures but a sound engine tuned nicely would give you around 13-15km/ltr with A.C. in local city driving.countless people ( including me) have been getting this mileag.on highways, its even higher, if u are a patient driver, u can get as much as 20km/ltr. i ve got 18.2km/ltr on my car and i wasnt driving very smoothly.

    Well, who ever says city 03-09 was a failure on CNG knows BS about cars... 80% of citys, even new ones on road are being driven on CNG.my own car has done 145000kms total and 126000kms on cng, its still going perfect... no problem at all... though u have to take care little bit more comparative to petrol.i mean change plugs at 20k kms, air filter at 10k kms, tuning every 20k kms etc.maintain it nicely and it will go without a problem.

    But the city idsi vario CVT (automatic transmission) was reported by many people as fail on cng... the transmission used to break down at around 80k kms... but 95% of the owners never knew that the transmission oil has to be changed at 30k kms, they never change the tranny fuel, which led to clogged filters in the tranny (yes, there are oil filters in auto tranny) due to which many parts of the tranny stopped getting oil supply and eventually the tranny breaks down.
    I friend of mine has 127k kms driven city vario, very nicely maintained, its on CNG.no problem at all until now...
    so brother, most of the things depend on how you maintain your car.and im sure even a messed up city would give u better mileage on petrol compared to ur mehran. (which i guess isnt giving u more then 10km/ltr)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kazim View Post
    thanks ahmadbila but difference between i-vtec and vtec not cleared, is it only selling new cars gimmik?
    Sir no difference in vtec and i-vtec. i- stands for INTELLIGENCE, which is just a new name for the same technology.just as in i-Dsi, Intelligence-Dual & sequential ignition. The first i stands for intelligence.
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    Thanks Ahmed for ur feedback. i wonder where u got so much info about cars (mechanically)
    i would certainly ask my couzn to check his mileage after 5000km.
    as for my 02 city it also gives around 10km/ltr which is much lower than the 03-09 model. i was expecting new model should also give same mileage around 13-15km/ltr. one thing i would like to ask is there any difference btw normal valves & hyper valves ? like 03-09 hav 8 valve whereas 00-03 & new city hav 16 valve.

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    Age is 19 and experience is more than 19 (mashallah)
    I am also planning to buy new city but one of my friend told me to wait for budget announcement. will there be any impact in comming budget on cars.
    I am interested in manual city, will u have any comments/advice for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by cityrider View Post
    Thanks Ahmed for ur feedback. i wonder where u got so much info about cars (mechanically)
    i would certainly ask my couzn to check his mileage after 5000km.
    as for my 02 city it also gives around 10km/ltr which is much lower than the 03-09 model. i was expecting new model should also give same mileage around 13-15km/ltr. one thing i would like to ask is there any difference btw normal valves & hyper valves ? like 03-09 hav 8 valve whereas 00-03 & new city hav 16 valve.
    Well the credit for that goes to Pakwheels
    Yes ur 02 city wont give u as much mileage as the newer citys give.the reason is that its engine is carburetted, not EFI.This means that an estimated quantity of fuel is poured into the cylinder head,so some of the fuel which enters the cylinder head gets out of the exhaust without being burned due to different reasons(reasons can be tuning,old plugs etc).

    Your 2nd question regarding valves.Normal/hyper valves have nothing to do with 8 or 16 or any number of valves.Number of valves is a different thing. Hyper valve is the valve operating system used in your model of city ( 97-02 ) .This system increases the rate of opening and closing of valves,hence increasing the inhale and exhale quantity of gases, which translates into better performance. Do not confuse this with Vtec, vtec changes the rate of opening valves at different RPM ranges, Hyper valve is just speeding up of the valves at every RPM range an it is not adjustable.

    03-09 City idsi had 8 valves to reduce the amount of air fuel mixture entering the engine ( which meant less performance) to enhance the fuel economy. This car was designed keeping in view the needs of a pure small family sedan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haseeb1969 View Post
    Age is 19 and experience is more than 19 (mashallah)
    I am also planning to buy new city but one of my friend told me to wait for budget announcement. will there be any impact in comming budget on cars.
    I am interested in manual city, will u have any comments/advice for me

    Thankyou sir

    I cant say much about the impact of budget on prices of car, but given the reputation of our govt., i doubt theres gonna be any decrease in the prices of car.specially when rumors about 16% VAT being applied on everything are being heard.
    I would suggest u not to wait for the budget, 90% chances are the prices will go sky high, but if they decrease, im sure its not gonna be more then 30-50 thousand, which would stay for a month or two before rising 80 thousand. U know, this has been happening for past 2 years now.

    Lets say u buy ur car ( which i suppose u have to keep for a year or two atleast) and the prices of new cars fall after u buy it.for sometime, ur car will be devalued but not for long... price hikes are seen every 4-6 months, so when u plan to sell ur car after a year or two, the price of new car would be more than what u paid a year back and ultimately u will be getting almost as much as u paid.people who bought idsi for 840k in 2006 are selling them for 9 plus now.

    And u ve made a wise choice about getting a new city manual.u wont ever regret it, its also compatible with CNG without any worries , this makes it even better.

    Hope that helped you.

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    VTEC - Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control. At low RPM, a VTEC engine uses a normal cam profile to retain a smooth idle, good fuel economy, and good low-end power delivery. The VTEC mechanism engages a high-lift, long-duration "race" cam profile at a set RPM value (i.e., ~5500RPM on the B16A) to increase high-end power delivery.VTEC-E - Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control for Efficiency. This system isn't really VTEC as we know it. At low RPM, the VTEC-E mechanism effectively forces the engine to operate as a 12-valve engine - one of the intake valves does not open fully, thus decreasing fuel consumption. At a set RPM value (i.e., ~2500RPM in the D16Y5), the VTEC-E mechanism engages the 2nd intake valve, effectively resuming operation as a normal 16-valve engine. Note: in a VTEC-E engine, there are no high-RPM performance cam profiles; this engine is supposed to be tuned for fuel economy, right?VTC - Variable Timing Control. This is a mechanism attached to the end of the intake camshaft only which acts as a continuously variable cam gear - it automatically adjusts the overlap between the intake and exhaust cams, effectively allowing the engine to have the most ideal amount of valve overlap in all RPM ranges. VTC is active at all RPMs.i-VTEC - intelligent Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control. This is a combination of both the VTEC and the VTC technologies - in other words, i-VTEC = VTEC + VTC. Currently, the only engines that use the i-VTEC system are the DOHC K-series engines.Now this is where things get tricky - Honda uses the term "DOHC i-VTEC" for two different systems: The first system is used in the K20A2 engine of the RSX Type-S. The second system is used in the K20A3 engine of the Civic Si.The First System (K20A2):This system is pretty close to the older DOHC VTEC engines. At low RPM, the K20A2 uses a normal cam profile to retain a smooth idle, good fuel economy, and good low-end power delivery. At 5800RPM, its VTEC mechanism engages a high-lift, long-duration "race" cam profile to increase high-end power delivery. The only difference between this i-VTEC engine and the older VTEC engines is the addition of the VTC system. The intake camshaft has the automatic self-adjusting cam gear which continuously optimizes valve overlap for all RPM ranges.Here we see an image of the intake cam lobes of the K20A2. Notice there are 3 lobes; the two side lobes are the low-RPM profiles, and the center lobe is the high-lift, long-duration profile which engages at 5800RPM. Basically the same setup as the old VTEC engines we are familiar with.Now here we see the VTC mechanism - the gear on the end of the intake cam that adjusts valve timing (overlap) automatically on the fly.This system is used in engines powering the JDM Honda Integra Type-R, Civic Type-R, Accord Euro-R, and the USDM Acura RSX Type-S and TSX.The Second System (K20A3):This system does not really conform to the "DOHC i-VTEC" nomenclature, as Honda would like us to believe. As I mentioned in my previous post, it actually should be called "i-VTEC-E," because it uses a VTEC-E mechanism rather than a standard VTEC mechanism. At low RPM, the VTEC-E system effectively forces the engine to operate as a 12-valve engine - one of the intake valves does not open fully, thus decreasing fuel consumption. At 2200RPM, the VTEC-E system engages the 2nd intake valve, effectively resuming operation as a normal 16-valve engine. There are no high-RPM performance cam profiles; this engine is tuned to balance fuel economy and power, rather than provide pure performance. On the intake cam, there is the VTC mechanism which basically is an automatic self-adjusting cam gear used to continuously optimize the valve overlap for all RPM ranges. This being a VTEC-E system - and not a true DOHC VTEC system - is the reason the K20A3 redlines at a measly 6800RPM, while the K20A2 is able to rev all the way to 7900RPM.Here we see an image of the intake cam lobes of the K20A3. Notice there are only 2 lobes - there is a nearly round one used only for the low-RPM disabled intake valve, and then there is the regular lobe used by the other valve at low-RPM and by both valves at high-RPM:This system is used in engines powering the USDM Acura RSX base, Honda Civic Si, Accord 4-cylinder, CRV, and Element.Special note: The K20A3 engine used in the Acura RSX base has a slightly different intake manifold design from the K20A3 engine used in the Civic Si. The RSX engine uses a dual-stage manifold, similar in concept to the manifold of the B18C1 in the old Integra GSR. It uses long intake runners at low-RPM to retain low end power, and switches at 4700RPM to a set of shorter intake runners to enhance high-end torque. This accounts for the extra 9 ft-lb of torque in the RSX (141 ft-lb, vs. 132 ft-lb in the Civic Si).Here is an image showing just how this dual-stage manifold works. On the top, you can see the low-RPM (long) runners are in use, and on the bottom, you can see the high-RPM (short) runners in use.Myths:1. The i-VTEC engine engages VTEC gradually, and not suddenly like in the old VTEC engines.Wrong. The i-VTEC engine "engages VTEC" at a single set RPM, like always. Whoever started this rumor is a ****tard. Read the definitions above.2. VTC engages at a set RPM.Wrong. VTC is always activated. Read under "VTC" above.3. The K20A3 engages VTEC at 5000+ RPM.Wrong. Technically, there is no "VTEC" (as we think of it) in the K20A3 engine - it uses a VTEC-E technology, which engages at 2200RPM.
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    salamzzz all pw i m not the owner of city i m a big fan of this beauty i was buying brand new 0 mtr city but b/c of sum crises i hvnt i m now buying city 05 plzzz tell me something obt it and which main thing in the engine to check b/c i dont want to waste my father"s money

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    plzzz help me for that as i read ahmedbila is expert plzzz help me

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    Mashallah, very nice
    Did u booked it or got it on own
    (how much own)
    If booked what is delivery period
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    Quote Originally Posted by haseeb1969 View Post
    Mashallah, very nice
    Did u booked it or got it on own
    (how much own)
    If booked what is delivery period
    any comments for new buyers
    I bought it unregistered (3000 Km used) for 1.2 M got lucky i guess
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