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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    aoa. guys two things i wanted to ask

    1. How important is the cabin air filter (the one installed for the AC). we all know that the stock only comes with the tray and not the filter inside it. i installed it last summers but it reduces the fan throw tremendously, specially if it is dirty and clogged. IF the car doesnt have it, what happens to the AC. the company guys say its not necessary in the first place, i mean they say it doesnt harm the performance of AC at least

    PS : the filter was very very dirty and clogged when i opened it today....i was surprised to see even some leaves stuck in it

    2. while trying to open and clean the filter compartment today, i broke one of its small little catch which clicks and locks. i pulled it a little too much and it broke. does it make any difference ? or shall i have to buy a new filter case (the one in which filter is fixed...the filter tray i mean)

    with the flter on, even if its clean, the AC air throw is very very very less as compared to when its not there. what to do
    I haven't try it...but hope below thread have some info 4 u ...

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...city-ac-filter

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    Quote Originally Posted by d3vil View Post
    I haven't try it...but hope below thread have some info 4 u ...

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...city-ac-filter
    thanks for the guidance bro...but i already have installed it. the question is IF i remove it, is it really harmful for the AC or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    thanks for the guidance bro...but i already have installed it. the question is IF i remove it, is it really harmful for the AC or not
    Well bro i thing Mine city 10 is totally in stock so haven't open it yet...But AC is working fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by d3vil View Post
    Well bro i thing Mine city 10 is totally in stock so haven't open it yet...But AC is working fine
    thats great to hear bro. i purchased mine 2012 last year and it didnt have AC cabin filter, like any other pakistan assembled car (less swift which has it actually), so i installed one later. today when i opened to clean it it actually was totally clogged and as i said above it even has some leaves stuck in it. now the question is IF the filter is not there, this dust and leaves go in the air channel, right ? so logically they SHALL do some harm to the AC ....or....decrease the performance of the AC cooling. but the factory guys say it dosnt harm either. so just want to get the general consensus here how harmful it is IF the filter is NOT installed (i.e.....if the car is in stock condition)

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    i use that hex tool or in desi words " aath ki ti tami" ... i tried with a big philips screw driver but those we tight badly...
    no problemo i will share a pic soon but that is led not bulb... an whaatttt.... wiring is already there... baa bat butttt i cant see any wiring at speakers place ... mine is 2006 idsi.. can u please guide me where r those wires at the back...

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    thats great to hear bro. i purchased mine 2012 last year and it didnt have AC cabin filter, like any other pakistan assembled car (less swift which has it actually), so i installed one later. today when i opened to clean it it actually was totally clogged and as i said above it even has some leaves stuck in it. now the question is IF the filter is not there, this dust and leaves go in the air channel, right ? so logically they SHALL do some harm to the AC ....or....decrease the performance of the AC cooling. but the factory guys say it dosnt harm either. so just want to get the general consensus here how harmful it is IF the filter is NOT installed (i.e.....if the car is in stock condition)
    Refined search bring this to me...

    Cooling will not have any effect becuase of this filter, the science involved is different. The biggest advantage of having a cabin air filter in the system is that whenever the mode is on EXTERNAL air then u wont have the environmental harmful elements in ur cabin. The next advantage which i didnt know but was explained by a staff at the HONDA NORTH is that, the dust on foot mats gets picked up during circulation and chocks the system over a period of time, so lets say if u dont have a cabin air filter ur lookin at an AC servicing within 2 years from zero meter whereas with a cabin air filter its like u wont need a servicing in the first 4 years provided u keep this filter clean as well every few months.

    See more on below link...https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ic-city-owners

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    and here is what my research told me

    you can just remove the filter, but be aware that this will probably hasten the demise of the blower motor, because of all the dust and dirt getting into the housing. the blower, and housing is made of plastic. there are several fittings and bearings for blend doors, and ducts that will in all likelyhood eat them selves up faster due to a constant supply of fresh dirt.
    how long do you want to keep this car?
    maybe you will sell the car before the blower dies? who knows!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    and here is what my research told me

    you can just remove the filter, but be aware that this will probably hasten the demise of the blower motor, because of all the dust and dirt getting into the housing. the blower, and housing is made of plastic. there are several fittings and bearings for blend doors, and ducts that will in all likelyhood eat them selves up faster due to a constant supply of fresh dirt.
    how long do you want to keep this car?
    maybe you will sell the car before the blower dies? who knows!
    Now 1k going out of my pocket....

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    Quote Originally Posted by d3vil View Post
    Refined search bring this to me...

    Cooling will not have any effect becuase of this filter, the science involved is different. The biggest advantage of having a cabin air filter in the system is that whenever the mode is on EXTERNAL air then u wont have the environmental harmful elements in ur cabin. The next advantage which i didnt know but was explained by a staff at the HONDA NORTH is that, the dust on foot mats gets picked up during circulation and chocks the system over a period of time, so lets say if u dont have a cabin air filter ur lookin at an AC servicing within 2 years from zero meter whereas with a cabin air filter its like u wont need a servicing in the first 4 years provided u keep this filter clean as well every few months.

    See more on below link...https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ic-city-owners
    by the way this comment has been posted by one of my very very close friends he is abroad in UK nowadays..i wud give him a ring and get the second opinion again

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    by the way this comment has been posted by one of my very very close friends :p he is abroad in uk nowadays..i wud give him a ring and get the second opinion again :p
    bol....

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    Quote Originally Posted by d3vil View Post
    Now 1k going out of my pocket....
    no . dont do that. i bought it for 1k from Honda guys, and the filter brand came out to be some "popular filters". i read the forum u posted above...read page two and last few posts. that seems more logical....

    lets use the Air filters of Window AC (the ones in black) ....or...use the air filter of split ACs...they are like paper type material...these might reduce the AC throw a little but the window AC ones wont. u just have to find them and cut them according to the square shape of the filter tray...so say, up to it ? lets do it together.

    Advantage : better quality filter, PLUS, permanent solution...u dont have to REPLACE it every now and then. just wash it with clean water, dry it, and put it back in again

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    no . dont do that. i bought it for 1k from Honda guys, and the filter brand came out to be some "popular filters". i read the forum u posted above...read page two and last few posts. that seems more logical....

    lets use the Air filters of Window AC (the ones in black) ....or...use the air filter of split ACs...they are like paper type material...these might reduce the AC throw a little but the window AC ones wont. u just have to find them and cut them according to the square shape of the filter tray...so say, up to it ? lets do it together.

    Advantage : better quality filter, PLUS, permanent solution...u dont have to REPLACE it every now and then. just wash it with clean water, dry it, and put it back in again

    rather no here is counter argument against it in the same very post on the next page

    Important : No the thin foam cant match the filtering capabilities of this element because the foam might be able to filter out bigger particles but it wont filter thinner dust and specially harmful fumes which accumulate inside a car when its parked for long in sunlight or if not opened for days in parked in a garage. As an example i wud remind u of the times when window AC servicing was done n upon taking out the front filter ud see a layer of muddy black thin dust on the front part of the intake around the thermostat portion, ever wonder how id wud get thru? because it could!

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    no . dont do that. i bought it for 1k from Honda guys, and the filter brand came out to be some "popular filters". i read the forum u posted above...read page two and last few posts. that seems more logical....

    lets use the Air filters of Window AC (the ones in black) ....or...use the air filter of split ACs...they are like paper type material...these might reduce the AC throw a little but the window AC ones wont. u just have to find them and cut them according to the square shape of the filter tray...so say, up to it ? lets do it together.

    Advantage : better quality filter, PLUS, permanent solution...u don't have to REPLACE it every now and then. just wash it with clean water, dry it, and put it back in again
    If i am not wrong u r taking abt below....

    the quality seems pathetic. Instead of this one can do a DIY for this.get the black foam used for old window type ACs like General n PEL etc.cut the foam n place it.would hardly cost RS 100 or u can get the filter of split ACs which are made of thin plastic guaze.cut it to the shape of the bracket n ur good to go.this type would be permanent n all u hav 2 do is wash is periodically.this paper type filter mite reduce the airflow but the AC 1s i mentioned wont!

    101 % agree...But don't know FAN speed...Also I have 1 ? in mind if it is so important then why HONDA Is not putting it in ??...Why additional ???

    For the Above is quit easy ....sure we can try together

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    Quote Originally Posted by d3vil View Post
    If i am not wrong u r taking abt below....

    the quality seems pathetic. Instead of this one can do a DIY for this.get the black foam used for old window type ACs like General n PEL etc.cut the foam n place it.would hardly cost RS 100 or u can get the filter of split ACs which are made of thin plastic guaze.cut it to the shape of the bracket n ur good to go.this type would be permanent n all u hav 2 do is wash is periodically.this paper type filter mite reduce the airflow but the AC 1s i mentioned wont!

    101 % agree...But don't know FAN speed...Also I have 1 ? in mind if it is so important then why HONDA Is not putting it in ??...Why additional ???

    For the Above is quit easy ....sure we can try together
    yeh i was talking abt it, but u missd one post RIGHT after it....lol...it is not good enough...we HAVE to stick with the paper material filter. so i m going to cut the plastic pieces right away after this post. i have cleaned the flter and placed it back but i have to cut the pieces beneath it for better air flow (the way the guy is cutting the ones in the civic reborn in the thread u referred to me)...hence....YES...u HAVE to spend 1000 finally

    abt why honda hasnt given it, they havent even given high mount stop lamp, initially no trunk light, no immobilizer, pathetic pakistani tyres etc etc ..... its common for car guys to screw us...start getting used to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    yeh i was talking abt it, but u missd one post RIGHT after it....lol...it is not good enough...we HAVE to stick with the paper material filter. so i m going to cut the plastic pieces right away after this post. i have cleaned the flter and placed it back but i have to cut the pieces beneath it for better air flow (the way the guy is cutting the ones in the civic reborn in the thread u referred to me)...hence....YES...u HAVE to spend 1000 finally

    abt why honda hasnt given it, they havent even given high mount stop lamp, initially no trunk light, no immobilizer, pathetic pakistani tyres etc etc ..... its common for car guys to screw us...start getting used to it
    LO GE MUJY WAY HE KUSH KAR DYA THA ...

    1k donated to AC...lolzz...BAHI GARMI AKHEER PARNI HY IS BAR...

    Yes U must have to cut...but...note the speed before & after...may be we have some conclusion as u r performing practical...

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post

    abt why honda hasnt given it, they havent even given high mount stop lamp, initially no trunk light, no immobilizer, pathetic pakistani tyres etc etc ..... its common for car guys to screw us...start getting used to it
    Yes TRUNK light is also a issue...In night ANDOO ke tarhaan saman rakna parta hy...Specially when u r buying SODA SALF...I talk to electration he say he will add this but need to cut wire.... a big NO but koi solution be nahi mila.....

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    @d3vil post 2011 cars have the trunk lights. my car has one

    about the plastic piece cutting issue, just did it and installed the filter back in..and yes air throw has improved marginally loving it

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    @d3vil post 2011 cars have the trunk lights. my car has one

    about the plastic piece cutting issue, just did it and installed the filter back in..and yes air throw has improved marginally loving it
    1st happy to here that yr issue has been resolved....

    2ndly for TRUNK light will check wth HONDA if they can add this feature ...because I guess 2009 & 2010 wiring is present...

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    aoa. guys two things i wanted to ask

    1. How important is the cabin air filter (the one installed for the AC). we all know that the stock only comes with the tray and not the filter inside it. i installed it last summers but it reduces the fan throw tremendously, specially if it is dirty and clogged. IF the car doesnt have it, what happens to the AC. the company guys say its not necessary in the first place, i mean they say it doesnt harm the performance of AC at least

    PS : the filter was very very dirty and clogged when i opened it today....i was surprised to see even some leaves stuck in it

    2. while trying to open and clean the filter compartment today, i broke one of its small little catch which clicks and locks. i pulled it a little too much and it broke. does it make any difference ? or shall i have to buy a new filter case (the one in which filter is fixed...the filter tray i mean)

    with the flter on, even if its clean, the AC air throw is very very very less as compared to when its not there. what to do
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    Though the queries have already been replied to a certain extent but still, here is some of my thing on topic:

    1- You did a great job indeed, our local mechanics consider it about as useful as a horse in water polo but the reality is otherwise. Well its quite realistic for a clogged filter to reduce air flow but for a new one, well I hope you installed it properly. You need to break the little square pieces off of the tray that houses the filter for proper flow. It will still retard the air flow but not to an extent that one starts regretting the filter installation (lol).

    The company guys suck as I may put it. They don't even know of a way to replenish the radiator in this model. The guy I went to brought a toilet lota for the purpose but he failed cz the lota won't fit in that place enough to pour the water in.

    Khair, the actual topic; One of the very obvious thing thats gonna happen is the dirt traveling with in the air ducts. But what most of us fail to realize is the painful part of it: Dirt flowing inside the system with AC on.

    The AC fins which provide us with cooling inside get wet due to the process of condensation as most of us know. The dirt and the dust "sticks" to the wet fin and turns into sort of "mini mud".

    Even when we turn off the AC, the dirt stuck there does dry up but doesn't break off. It slowly builds up and within a year or so of strenuous AC usage, the fins are already clogged enough to retard the air flow MORE than a clogged air filter.

    They can be replaced easily with a cost of 2k Rs or so with labor but that requires the whole system to be opened and flushed which I guess is torture for a new car.

    Moreover, no mechanic, not even the triple $hit workshops can make the AC work like OEM.

    2: I shouldn't matter unless the filter decides to flutter with the air flow. If it doesn't seem to be a problem, I'd say go on with it. Don't do anything unless really required.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KLINCH View Post
    i use that hex tool or in desi words " aath ki ti tami" ... i tried with a big philips screw driver but those we tight badly...
    no problemo i will share a pic soon but that is led not bulb... an whaatttt.... wiring is already there... baa bat butttt i cant see any wiring at speakers place ... mine is 2006 idsi.. can u please guide me where r those wires at the back...
    Great, I told you it isn't the job for a screw driver. And thanks! Waiting for the picture.

    and yess the wiring is there. But it needs a genius whacko to be detected and found

    Don't worry, I'll post a full DIY on how to do that very soon. I installed the whole system all by myself.
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