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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post

    Edit: We just hit 8000 posts mark on our hood
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    And 400 pages
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    And 400 pages
    Congrats

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    Great effort by Ahmad & Honda City team , congratzzzz
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    thank you hasooboy and Amir bhai
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedster_101 View Post
    Does that happen when the A/C is on? My Honda City gives that kind of sound when the A/C is on. I think it is the sound of the compressor because when the A/C is off I never listened to this kind of sound no matter at what RPM I change the gear.
    no brother...thats the sound of the condenser...same comes from the routine house Split ACs as well if u keep the fan speed low...what i m talking about is a sound coming from general area engine bay, very prominent , and only comes when u change the gear at high RPM, the EXACT moment when u release the clutch, u hear this pppphhhssshhhh sound for half a second, like some pressure being released

    Quote Originally Posted by speedster_101 View Post
    Do you guys feel good when the car's engine is very very quiet?
    My Honda City 1.3L engine is very quiet and sometimes I have to press the accelerator to see if the engine is really running
    What about the engine sound of 1.5L City Aspire?
    i love quiet cars...and the City engine roars pretty nice when u push it hard

    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifaa View Post
    sir g these rims come with ivtec city
    a1ms was selling some weeks earlier for 35 k i dont know he still hav them or nt
    thats a lot of money...interestingly, Honda Centre are selling these rims brand new for 78 thousand

    Quote Originally Posted by Oblivion View Post
    I'm interested in the 1.3L as that fits into my budget. It is with the black interior or beige now? How's the drive and the gearbox?
    well my this statement might be disliked by a lot of guys out here. i own a city, i love my city, the power, the grip, everything...but in personal opinion (again...just "personal" opinion), in the driving pleasure, it lacks the fun-to-drive factor of a swift. Swift engine is more responsive even at low RPMs whereas the city engine struggles. road grip of Swift i guess is far better than city. i would even give more marks in braking to swift. plus it comes with goodies like OEM fog lights, lovely alloy rims, IMMOBILIZER (a huge huge advantage) and a much better AC. if one has a small family, i mean only one child and so, swift is the better choice anyday. for a guy like me who is more of a family person with 3 kids and needing boot more often than not to go from here to there, city is the choice

    bad things about swift : extremely small cabin. in rear seat two ppl can hardly sit (tall fat guys like me), hard suspension like city, very very low on ground clearance (specially with 2 to 3 ppl in rear), bogus interior

    PS : ok guys....kill me now remember, i love my city, so mercy please

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Drive is perfect as per my experience with the car. Suspension is a bit hardy and sporty, if you aren't a fan of sportiness (which I guess you ARE after using swift), it might render you disappointed on a broken road.

    For the rest, I assure you swift's drive is nothing as compared to city. The cabin, the feel, the handling, the interior design, the visibility, handling, each and everything would feel superior.

    Interior color is now biege in all Honda City trims.

    Edit: We just hit 8000 posts mark on our hood
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    Sounds like i should get mine straightaway

    Congratulations on the 8000 mark

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    no brother...thats the sound of the condenser...same comes from the routine house Split ACs as well if u keep the fan speed low...what i m talking about is a sound coming from general area engine bay, very prominent , and only comes when u change the gear at high RPM, the EXACT moment when u release the clutch, u hear this pppphhhssshhhh sound for half a second, like some pressure being released
    That seems to be a pressing concern. You should get it checked by Honda guys, I assume your car is in warranty period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedster_101 View Post
    That seems to be a pressing concern. You should get it checked by Honda guys, I assume your car is in warranty period.
    yeah....if only those morons agree that the sound is coming. 99 percent of the time they say "aap ka wehem hey "

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    @waleed80 78 k for 4 peices or 5?
    i think i should remove these rims n spare for some red idsi
    red steermatic to milti ni ab kiya karen
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    soon 1 more white vario hit the thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifaa View Post
    @waleed80 78 k for 4 peices or 5?
    i think i should remove these rims n spare for some red idsi
    red steermatic to milti ni ab kiya karen
    78k for 4

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    Finally dropped off the City to our denter to get the rusty bit's replaced and fixing the trunk and engine bay i wanted to know whats the color code of a silver 2004 City ?
    and any tips or suggestion you guys have in mind please don't hesitate in sharing 'em
    another thing the denter/painter asked my father if we wanted to get the interior silver panels painted too for 3k :/
    i know thats way too much for such a small job but should i get it done ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahadsoulsnatcher911 View Post
    Finally dropped off the City to our denter to get the rusty bit's replaced and fixing the trunk and engine bay i wanted to know whats the color code of a silver 2004 City ?
    and any tips or suggestion you guys have in mind please don't hesitate in sharing 'em
    another thing the denter/painter asked my father if we wanted to get the interior silver panels painted too for 3k :/
    i know thats way too much for such a small job but should i get it done ?

    if ur denter has to cut a piece of metal and put a new one there, dont let him put just ANY metal piece there. find a scrapped honda/toyota or even suzuki OEM metal part/sheet (could be a damaged fender or a bonnet from an accidented car) and get that piece on ur car. reason? the cheap pathetic quality metal they put on cars gets rust very soon again. the OEM quality is much better. as for the panels, well, 3000rs is a little bit more then expected but not that much. alternatively, u could do this DIY...

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...le-respray-diy
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    if ur denter has to cut a piece of metal and put a new one there, dont let him put just ANY metal piece there. find a scrapped honda/toyota or even suzuki OEM metal part/sheet (could be a damaged fender or a bonnet from an accidented car) and get that piece on ur car. reason? the cheap pathetic quality metal they put on cars gets rust very soon again. the OEM quality is much better. as for the panels, well, 3000rs is a little bit more then expected but not that much. alternatively, u could do this DIY...

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...le-respray-diy
    I'll discuss this with the denter but the most rusty part are the foot board which are available in one whole piece but still i'll get it rust coated
    i'll talk to my father about the interior panels

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    And 400 pages
    Congrates ahmad. it is indeed one of the best cars related forums I have ever visited.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahadsoulsnatcher911 View Post
    Finally dropped off the City to our denter to get the rusty bit's replaced and fixing the trunk and engine bay i wanted to know whats the color code of a silver 2004 City ?
    and any tips or suggestion you guys have in mind please don't hesitate in sharing 'em
    another thing the denter/painter asked my father if we wanted to get the interior silver panels painted too for 3k :/
    i know thats way too much for such a small job but should i get it done ?
    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    if ur denter has to cut a piece of metal and put a new one there, dont let him put just ANY metal piece there. find a scrapped honda/toyota or even suzuki OEM metal part/sheet (could be a damaged fender or a bonnet from an accidented car) and get that piece on ur car. reason? the cheap pathetic quality metal they put on cars gets rust very soon again. the OEM quality is much better. as for the panels, well, 3000rs is a little bit more then expected but not that much. alternatively, u could do this DIY...

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...le-respray-diy
    Quote Originally Posted by fahadsoulsnatcher911 View Post
    I'll discuss this with the denter but the most rusty part are the foot board which are available in one whole piece but still i'll get it rust coated
    i'll talk to my father about the interior panels
    I will tell you why these ordinary metal sheets get rusted. It is because they are not treated to be rust proof. Believe me if rust proofing is done prior to application the thin metal parts can last really long. Alternatively you can buy some brand new metal sheet with your denter from iron market and where the small patchwork is required ask the denter to apply the primer to the side that is going on the underside than after application primer first than surface making with puttin than another primer than wet sanding and paint.

    For parts that are going to go underside of car like wheel arches and under body, try to get some cosmoline and from gun shop and apply that on the metal sheet instead of tarcoal, After cosmoline it can be painted and will give the look like original daanay dar of honda original.

    For color I told you earlier that keep materials in your hand i.e pay the denter painter only for labour and buy paint thinner yourself. Go to any computerised mixing shop it can make the color you desire. Choose the best brand of colour and thinner and also go through the mixing ratios, digest all that information and vomit on your painter. Remember that for the paint to last long the mixing ratio has to be correct, plus the correct number of coats, with correct spraying pressure and distance. I think 4 coats will do good but you have to give a gap of 6-8 hours between the coats, with slight dry sanding by a micro sand paper before every coat. It can be done like this surface preparation at night and than after dry sanding with micro sand paper, apply the first coat and than go to sleep. Next morning start early with dry sanding and apply the second coat, than leave the car in the evening again dry sand and apply the third coat, than 4th coat again in the morning. Now that is done with base coat now you have to go for top i.e laquer

    For top coat do sanding before the first coat and again apply 3-4 coats with 1-2 hours gap(I am not sure which sanding will work here but I think it will be wet sanding)

    After all the coats of base and to coat done, wet sand all the surfaces than apply a good quality compound.
    For this part @margallar is the man

    BTW 3000 for the panels is way too much. There are 4 in doors and one big part in the center console and ash tray in the rear. Ask him about his labour. My mechanic takes 500rs for fuel pump change and he opens the entire center console for that. opening the door panels is no big deal. The material will cost you around 500 rs. So I think 1500 rs is good for this work.
    If you painter is demanding 3000 rs for this job that is hardly a 2-3 hours job for them, than he sure is an expensive mechanic.

    BTW please post the pics of every part to be treated, you will be able to get more advises that way

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    if ur denter has to cut a piece of metal and put a new one there, dont let him put just ANY metal piece there. find a scrapped honda/toyota or even suzuki OEM metal part/sheet (could be a damaged fender or a bonnet from an accidented car) and get that piece on ur car. reason? the cheap pathetic quality metal they put on cars gets rust very soon again. the OEM quality is much better. as for the panels, well, 3000rs is a little bit more then expected but not that much. alternatively, u could do this DIY...

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...le-respray-diy
    Normally the most affected parts are the panels under to doors that have to be bought new. Wheel arches cricular outline again has to be bought new. The metal sheets are only used when the patch work is required i.e paiwand kari
    The parts that are notorious to rusting are the outlines of windscreen and back mirror. The rear edges of front fender and front edges of rear fenders. The panels under doors. The door linings. whole underside of the car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedster_101 View Post
    Does that happen when the A/C is on? My Honda City gives that kind of sound when the A/C is on. I think it is the sound of the compressor because when the A/C is off I never listened to this kind of sound no matter at what RPM I change the gear.
    Hi, the sound mentioned is due to the DBW technology in City. DBW replaces the conventional wire based accelerators and throttle systems with hydraulics and displacemnt sensors. The hissing sound at gear changes is due to the hydraulic system of throttle and clutch. Its absolutely normal and nothing to worry about.

    Regards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    I will tell you why these ordinary metal sheets get rusted. It is because they are not treated to be rust proof. Believe me if rust proofing is done prior to application the thin metal parts can last really long. Alternatively you can buy some brand new metal sheet with your denter from iron market and where the small patchwork is required ask the denter to apply the primer to the side that is going on the underside than after application primer first than surface making with puttin than another primer than wet sanding and paint.


    For parts that are going to go underside of car like wheel arches and under body, try to get some cosmoline and from gun shop and apply that on the metal sheet instead of tarcoal, After cosmoline it can be painted and will give the look like original daanay dar of honda original.

    For color I told you earlier that keep materials in your hand i.e pay the denter painter only for labour and buy paint thinner yourself. Go to any computerised mixing shop it can make the color you desire. Choose the best brand of colour and thinner and also go through the mixing ratios, digest all that information and vomit on your painter. Remember that for the paint to last long the mixing ratio has to be correct, plus the correct number of coats, with correct spraying pressure and distance. I think 4 coats will do good but you have to give a gap of 6-8 hours between the coats, with slight dry sanding by a micro sand paper before every coat. It can be done like this surface preparation at night and than after dry sanding with micro sand paper, apply the first coat and than go to sleep. Next morning start early with dry sanding and apply the second coat, than leave the car in the evening again dry sand and apply the third coat, than 4th coat again in the morning. Now that is done with base coat now you have to go for top i.e laquer

    For top coat do sanding before the first coat and again apply 3-4 coats with 1-2 hours gap(I am not sure which sanding will work here but I think it will be wet sanding)

    After all the coats of base and to coat done, wet sand all the surfaces than apply a good quality compound.
    For this part @margallar is the man

    BTW 3000 for the panels is way too much. There are 4 in doors and one big part in the center console and ash tray in the rear. Ask him about his labour. My mechanic takes 500rs for fuel pump change and he opens the entire center console for that. opening the door panels is no big deal. The material will cost you around 500 rs. So I think 1500 rs is good for this work.
    If you painter is demanding 3000 rs for this job that is hardly a 2-3 hours job for them, than he sure is an expensive mechanic.

    BTW please post the pics of every part to be treated, you will be able to get more advises that way
    thanks for a detailed reply (Y)
    the denter and painter are pretty good a couple of months ago they repainted an acquaintance's Margalla which was rusting from a few places too and he did a pretty good job on it
    i'll go along with him for buying the paint and other stuff and discuss the entire process in detail
    btw this is the first time i've heard of sanding the car after every base coat , what i had in mind that after painting the car we have to leave it for a couple of weak to let the paint cure properly and then do wet sanding and final compound to get rid of imperfections and orange peel
    i have another idea regarding the interior panels , will get 'em painted by carbographic guys either in a wooden texture or carbon fibre

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    I want to install new front speakers in my City 2005. Experts may suggest speakers which can be fitted in place of existing speakers. I want to improve the sound quality with stock size speakers. Usually i use front speakers to listen music. No woofer or amp installed in the car.

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