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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Finally got the ugly duckling back the other day
    over all its good the trunk and engine bay are very nicely repaired the foot boards and rear wheel arches are now rust free and the scratches and dings here and there are no more to be seen
    but im not satisfied with the color matching because the entire car was not painted so there is a 19/20 difference also as the car was repainted in an open space not a booth so its not perfect but still better then before

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    Here are some new pics
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    Has anyone noticed the gear problems in the current City 2009-13? My car’s 2012 with 17k on the odo but most of the times the gears get stuck, especially the reverse gear. I sometimes manually push my car a little bit and then put it in reverse gear. Its not only annoying but may damage something. I am planning to visit Honda guys this weekend if i get the time, but just wanted to share this problem here to see if someone else is also facing the same problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by junaid153 View Post
    Salam All i have facing a problem in my idsi 2007 cng after throtle service. problem when ac is on rpm goes down from 1000 to 600 approx when accelerate slowly after stoping the car on signals/speedbrakers and then its normal and car running fine but because of this problem i missed the smooth drive of my idsi please any one help me on this.... because three times i done cng setting from cng wala but he says city ka tou yahi masla rahta ha aur sub city aisi hi karti hain i know usne apni jaan chorwaney k liye aisa kaha kyo k uski khud samj ma nai ara k problem kiya ha
    Na karein junaid bhai. Agar aapki gari ac kay saath rpms 1000 per karti hai than your TPS and idle stop screw has definitely been screwed. The idsi should increase the rpms with AC to 850-900 rpm that is the stock setting. Since your TPS is not in proper calibration you cannot expect smooth drive on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahadsoulsnatcher911 View Post
    Finally got the ugly duckling back the other day
    over all its good the trunk and engine bay are very nicely repaired the foot boards and rear wheel arches are now rust free and the scratches and dings here and there are no more to be seen
    but im not satisfied with the color matching because the entire car was not painted so there is a 19/20 difference also as the car was repainted in an open space not a booth so its not perfect but still better then before
    Quote Originally Posted by fahadsoulsnatcher911 View Post
    Here are some new pics
    Fahad chanda kia pakwheels number of pics per pasiay laitay hain?. Dear upload detailed pics and if possible before and after of every panel and if you dont feel comfortable to post detailed pics here than email than at a_n_memon88@hotmail.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahadsoulsnatcher911 View Post
    Here are some new pics
    Another thing also tell the complete expenditure and details of work done. And why is the VIN plate missing from front patti above bumper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Another thing also tell the complete expenditure and details of work done. And why is the VIN plate missing from front patti above bumper.
    Long story short
    the car was hit from the front drivers side which resulted to bend the front frame of the car this was done when the car was still belonging to its first owner he gave it to a denter in defence Ph#1 and while working on the car he removed the vin plate and since then its nowhere to be found we are trying to find it and hopefully it will be recovered soon IA
    the total cost is 20k for both the denting and painting

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Fahad chanda kia pakwheels number of pics per pasiay laitay hain?. Dear upload detailed pics and if possible before and after of every panel and if you dont feel comfortable to post detailed pics here than email than at a_n_memon88@hotmail.com
    yes i'll compile the before and after pics by tonight and will upload them
    even uploading these photos took around 40 mins :/

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    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/mem...a-aka-jdm-city
    Salam brothers,
    have a look at my baby, its now up for sale.
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    AOA all!
    Is anyone selling his City (model 2006+) ? Steermatic or i.DSI? Kindly PM me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoon View Post
    AOA all!
    Is anyone selling his City (model 2006+) ? Steermatic or i.DSI? Kindly PM me
    already PMed... if u r interested in aria

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    [QUOTE=binzahur;3922142]already PMed... if u r interested in

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    Bro i went to buy the brake pads for my city 2010, there was a range from 700 Rs till 8000 =P .. I always buy stuff from honda center in Azhar Shaheed Market Rawalpindi, the original honda one's were for 8000, thailand made were for 5000, Japanese one were for 2600 (these i got) & the list continued.. He told me that the japanese ones are good for almost 25000 KM's. Did i make the right decision ?

    Also the back wheels brake shoe's he said dont need to be done right now as after 2 Brake Pads are changed only after that you need to change them (my car has 39000 on the meter right now). Also do you think any normal car mechanic is to be relied on for getting the pads changed ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewareofdevilz View Post
    Bro i went to buy the brake pads for my city 2010, there was a range from 700 Rs till 8000 =P .. I always buy stuff from honda center in Azhar Shaheed Market Rawalpindi, the original honda one's were for 8000, thailand made were for 5000, Japanese one were for 2600 (these i got) & the list continued.. He told me that the japanese ones are good for almost 25000 KM's. Did i make the right decision ?

    Also the back wheels brake shoe's he said dont need to be done right now as after 2 Brake Pads are changed only after that you need to change them (my car has 39000 on the meter right now). Also do you think any normal car mechanic is to be relied on for getting the pads changed ?
    Japan ones are going to be nissin. Well I dont have your model but have tried Nissin and Other brand as well the one available for 800-900. Believe me both ran almost same mileage infact 800-900 ones did some more kms than the nissin. So its all about personal liking. And one more thing original OEM is OEM Dont expect to get the same miles out of your japan bads that you got in your oem pads

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    dont use regular grease to service the brake caliper, you are supposed to apply antisieze or moly paste on the back of the pads to prevent squeal and use silicone grease on the sliders. Using petroleum grease on the sliders will destroy the little O rings on them and cause rust as water will enter it.

    Using it as antisqueal will cause the grease to melt and contaminate the pad material.
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