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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Assalam-O-Alaikum friends, I have just bought Honda City 2008. Need suggestions ( for modifications ) and other tips from city gurus.:-)

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    So the time has come to sell my City but dont have any idea what should I demand
    Specs;
    Honda City
    Production May 2004
    Vogue silver color
    repaint below pillars (roof & pillars are in original paint)
    122565 km's on ODO as of today
    Pw,EPS and all other accessories in working order
    2nd owner cars on my fathers name
    All documents complete including sales invoice etc
    Vin aka tickli missing
    had an accident a couple of years ago so the front frame was slightly bent
    what should be the fair price ?

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    [QUOTE=Dragoon;3922226]
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    already PMed... if u r interested in
    1150 nego... chk out link
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    @fahad_reloaded, now what's going to be ur next ride?

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Japan ones are going to be nissin. Well I dont have your model but have tried Nissin and Other brand as well the one available for 800-900. Believe me both ran almost same mileage infact 800-900 ones did some more kms than the nissin. So its all about personal liking. And one more thing original OEM is OEM Dont expect to get the same miles out of your japan bads that you got in your oem pads
    Agreed on that bro... OEM were out of my range so I though lets just go with the nissin ones & after this one I can try the OEM if pocket allows =P so no worries... got them replaced yesterday & working like a charm.. thanks for the info mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    dont use regular grease to service the brake caliper, you are supposed to apply antisieze or moly paste on the back of the pads to prevent squeal and use silicone grease on the sliders. Using petroleum grease on the sliders will destroy the little O rings on them and cause rust as water will enter it.

    Using it as antisqueal will cause the grease to melt and contaminate the pad material.
    Thanks for this info mate, I also saw a lot of rust on the top round edges of the Disk itself, as its exposed to water & air maybe, is there anything we can do about it ? ill share some pix soon

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    dont worry about that rust or water - the disc gets super hot 200C easily - all water is steamed off instantly. If you however dont like how the way it looks - you can use some extreme temperature paint for it. But I personally wouldnt bother.
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    A recent one I took in my Aspire. You can use it in the title, thread, will look good

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    Yesterday I got the break/disk pads changed for my City iDSI. I have been using Nissin brand. This time I purchased it for Rs 2300/- whereas 4 wheels' break service was charged Rs. 300/-. Previous disk pads lasted for 40,000+ KMs.

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    please share petrol filter and labour rate of honda city 2007

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheikh_wah View Post
    Yesterday I got the break/disk pads changed for my City iDSI. I have been using Nissin brand. This time I purchased it for Rs 2300/- whereas 4 wheels' break service was charged Rs. 300/-. Previous disk pads lasted for 40,000+ KMs.
    Shop name from where you bought brake pads please.

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    Friends, can anypne tell me the exact engine oil capacity of Honda City 2008. I have recently bought this city and yesterday I went to get its oil changed. The guy there told me that we will pour full 4 liter oil in the engine. I have read somewhere on the PW, that city has engine oil capacity of 3.7 lts. Please confirm this.
    And also about the oil dipstick, there are two holes in it. where the oil level should reside? . Should it touch the upper hole or it should remain between the two holes. pls help. Thanks

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    Requesting a quick reply.
    I've got honda city 2009. Would yokohama a drive in size 185, 65 r 15 be good choice.
    I've been using dunlop 195 65 r 15, that didn't feel good. Plus I think they were a bit too wide. Your suggestions please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atifkh74 View Post
    Friends, can anypne tell me the exact engine oil capacity of Honda City 2008. I have recently bought this city and yesterday I went to get its oil changed. The guy there told me that we will pour full 4 liter oil in the engine. I have read somewhere on the PW, that city has engine oil capacity of 3.7 lts. Please confirm this.
    And also about the oil dipstick, there are two holes in it. where the oil level should reside? . Should it touch the upper hole or it should remain between the two holes. pls help. Thanks
    may toe complet 4lit engine oil dal ta hoe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sk_KingpiN View Post
    Shop name from where you bought brake pads please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atifkh74 View Post
    Friends, can anypne tell me the exact engine oil capacity of Honda City 2008. I have recently bought this city and yesterday I went to get its oil changed. The guy there told me that we will pour full 4 liter oil in the engine. I have read somewhere on the PW, that city has engine oil capacity of 3.7 lts. Please confirm this.
    And also about the oil dipstick, there are two holes in it. where the oil level should reside? . Should it touch the upper hole or it should remain between the two holes. pls help. Thanks
    I can confirm that 3.7 liters is the capacity of iDSI model but don't know about next version. Oil level should be touhing the upper hole but better not to cross it. If it's slightly lower than upper hole, even then its ok and has no issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaryab View Post
    Requesting a quick reply.
    I've got honda city 2009. Would yokohama a drive in size 185, 65 r 15 be good choice.
    I've been using dunlop 195 65 r 15, that didn't feel good. Plus I think they were a bit too wide. Your suggestions please.

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    U r right, 195-65-15 is much wider for City and 185 will surely give u better and more comfortable feeling as compare to 195. Yokohama is better than Dunlop but expensive too.

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    i am planning to buy a honda city exis model 2000. or should i go for exi 1999 i am confused.. what will be the major price difference

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    Default Some detailing after long time. Though nothing in front of ROBM (Fawad) & Kaptaan

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    @fahad_reloaded

    Bhai jee aapki car different aspects main ham se aagay tou thi he, ab aap safai main bhi number lay gye hain, kuj saaday waastay v chor dyo paa jee...

    Rear left light looks bit Seems like the seal has gone bad and the dirt has been entering it. I'll talk to you over the phone soon. And oh, still no OEM wheels and caps? I thought you got them a long time back?

    Btw you still haven't let the cat out of the bag.... whats next?
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