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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
    Its SUMMER Vacations, Got Nothing to do, Gettin BORED

    Why not BOSCH em' up my CITY
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    Isnt the stock position of horns in honda city behind the number plate under the bumper.

    Also please explain that you have only connected one terminal on each horn whereas you need to connect both the terminals. How have you managed doing with just one connection

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Isnt the stock position of horns in honda city behind the number plate under the bumper.

    Also please explain that you have only connected one terminal on each horn whereas you need to connect both the terminals. How have you managed doing with just one connection
    No, stock position is in front of the condenser, just behind the lower bumper grill. Stock horn is single and is visible from outside, I hate it.
    @Skt_Z4 just taught me a place to relocate my car's horns.

    and secondly, all honda and toyota OEM Denso/Bosch horns use only one terminal for operation (positive). Their ground is connected through the metal mount/support via which they're fixed to the chassis. After-market 2nd or 3rd copy horns need the ground via wiring harness.
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    Bumping up my problems hayy koee bandaa?

    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Bhai g I suggest you get its thorough 40k km maintenance inspected/done. And kindly also suggest a good mechanic in Rawalpindi for my idsi besides 3S stealershit. This is gonna be my first time getting maintenance done from someone else, so I need guidance.

    The things I need to get done are:

    -Wheel allignment
    -Throttle body service
    -Tappet adjustment
    -Fuel filter replacement
    -injector cleaning
    -New Spark plugs
    -Transmission oil change
    -Ignition coils' continuity inspection
    -Full engine tune up

    I need a person who is capable of carrying out this stuff professionally, not jugaarbaazi and tukka stuff. I am sure you know someone out there who's been handling your car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Bhai g I suggest you get its thorough 40k km maintenance inspected/done. And kindly also suggest a good mechanic in Rawalpindi for my idsi besides 3S stealershit. This is gonna be my first time getting maintenance done from someone else, so I need guidance.

    The things I need to get done are:

    -Throttle body service
    -Tappet adjustment
    -Fuel filter replacement
    -injector cleaning
    -New Spark plugs
    -Transmission oil change
    -Ignition coils' continuity inspection
    -Full engine tune up

    I need a person who is capable of carrying out this stuff professionally, not jugaarbaazi and tukka stuff. I am sure you know someone out there who's been handling your car.
    ROBM sir. The 3s at times are not that bad. Let me give you an example, the throttle body on this car has a teflon coating at the butterfly hinges. It is specifically mentioned in the manual not to scratch it as it will start wearing out the pivots and result in decreased butterfly life.

    During last tune-up at 3s for a friend's City, I was focusing on how the tech works around this to clean the TB. And yes, by his actions, it was pretty clear that he knew not to scratch that area. The whole point is, no other mechanic would have cared unless he had gone through the manual or training.

    Regarding the jobs:

    -Throttle body service - OK
    -Tappet adjustment - OK
    -Fuel filter replacement - No Need - Replace at 80K
    -injector cleaning - No Need-
    -New Spark plugs - Definately no need. By the books, these iridium tips last 100K Kilometers.
    -Transmission oil change - Replace it at 60K (as per book)
    -Ignition coils' continuity inspection --No one does it. And quite frankly, no need
    -Full engine tune up -- There is no such thing as tune-up in this car. After TB service, the honda guys hook up a PC scan tool, Reset ECU, do a idle learn procedure and TPS callibration. ALL done.

    Certain dealerships have pre-printed package slips with cost breakdown. Select the options you want to go. It will cost you roughly around 3000. No more.

    One more thing, the above cost also includes all wheels brake service. As forcefully as they say to replace the front pads, dont do it unless you inspect them yourself. You also have the service manual, might figure a way to measure the thickness before actually replacing.

    Hope it helps

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    @memon simply bcz other wire is ground or negative which is car body itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rustam54 View Post
    ROBM sir. The 3s at times are not that bad. Let me give you an example, the throttle body on this car has a teflon coating at the butterfly hinges. It is specifically mentioned in the manual not to scratch it as it will start wearing out the pivots and result in decreased butterfly life.

    During last tune-up at 3s for a friend's City, I was focusing on how the tech works around this to clean the TB. And yes, by his actions, it was pretty clear that he knew not to scratch that area. The whole point is, no other mechanic would have cared unless he had gone through the manual or training.

    Regarding the jobs:

    -Throttle body service - OK
    -Tappet adjustment - OK
    -Fuel filter replacement - No Need - Replace at 80K
    -injector cleaning - No Need-
    -New Spark plugs - Definately no need. By the books, these iridium tips last 100K Kilometers.
    -Transmission oil change - Replace it at 60K (as per book)
    -Ignition coils' continuity inspection --No one does it. And quite frankly, no need
    -Full engine tune up -- There is no such thing as tune-up in this car. After TB service, the honda guys hook up a PC scan tool, Reset ECU, do a idle learn procedure and TPS callibration. ALL done.

    Certain dealerships have pre-printed package slips with cost breakdown. Select the options you want to go. It will cost you roughly around 3000. No more.

    One more thing, the above cost also includes all wheels brake service. As forcefully as they say to replace the front pads, dont do it unless you inspect them yourself. You also have the service manual, might figure a way to measure the thickness before actually replacing.

    Hope it helps
    Sir first of all, JazakALLAH for the detailed reply, I agree cent percent to it!

    But here is the thing, I want all this for my Idsi city 2004. Its over 230 Thousand kilometers by now. I am facing missing problems on petrol, power loss, poor acceleration beyond one can even think of, Poor idling and to top it off, the car stalls in idling. I always need to floor the pedal when starting it.

    On CNG however, its okay. But some idling problems ARE there. Last week on M2, I was driving it on petrol after quite sometime since I usually don't use it in days of CNG loadshedding because of poor fuel economy, I prefer a non converted car. I can easily kill a new corolla up the few steep climbs on motorway, however, last week it acted simply pathetic as I may put it. Didn't even cross 130kph on petrol, that too without AC and did just 200kms in half tank of fuel when other member's are achieving 450kms+ easily.

    Well, okay. You've successfully convinced me to go to 3S. And I will very soon inshALLAH. Just that I always take cars to them because of warranty issues and jugaar mechanics scattered all over the twin cities. This one is a bit older piece with us so I thought may be why not try some other guy this time and check the difference in the way they do stuff.

    But I will go to Honda Centre now inshALLAH.

    And unfortunately, my car needs all of the above except for ignition coils' continuity inspection. The other car with me is just over 5k driven.
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    ^^Oh i thought its the other car that has reached 40k mark. But i think i mis read the original post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    No, stock position is in front of the condenser, just behind the lower bumper grill. Stock horn is single and is visible from outside, I hate it.
    @Skt_Z4 just taught me a place to relocate my car's horns.

    and secondly, all honda and toyota OEM Denso/Bosch horns use only one terminal for operation (positive). Their ground is connected through the metal mount/support via which they're fixed to the chassis. After-market 2nd or 3rd copy horns need the ground via wiring harness.
    Sir! I Suggest you to Better do a Search Before Calling my Mods 3rd Class or Fake, These are Made in Turkey, Not China or Copy.I know the Original Horns have Only Positive Terminal as the HONDA City's Horn & also I've Checked my JDM's Dual Horn Both have Single Terminal, With Negative Grounded. & Most of Stock Horns have these.

    Perhaps ones U R Talking about R Spanish made!

    As for the Positions of Snail Type Horns Stock Position, I've Saw in a Banged ACCORD at a HONDA 3s, With Bumper Removed, It had Snail Type Horns at Exact Position on which I have Mounted.

    Perhaps U say the PW members since 2006 or 2005, are Selling Copy items here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Isnt the stock position of horns in honda city behind the number plate under the bumper.

    Also please explain that you have only connected one terminal on each horn whereas you need to connect both the terminals. How have you managed doing with just one connection
    Sir! I've saw an ACCORD, with Bumper Removed. It has Stock Snail Type Horns, The Position of them is exactly Where i mounted my City's Horn, Most Electricians Mount them on Position U've Said. I thought this Position is more Suitable, Protective, Stockish & also HONDA have Mounted it in that position for a Good Reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
    Sir! I've saw an ACCORD, with Bumper Removed. It has Stock Snail Type Horns, The Position of them is exactly Where i mounted my City's Horn, Most Electricians Mount them on Position U've Said. I thought this Position is more Suitable, Protective, Stockish & also HONDA have Mounted it in that position for a Good Reason.
    I grounded Terminal's Like Following:
    Honda City Fan Club -1226933
    Actually that is the best place to put a horn but I am not fond of opening up the bumper just for the sake of horns. It might be worthwhile for you because you bought original pair but I buy these horns from bilal gunj. My current pair is in my car for more than 1.5 years and I have used them a normal person would use in 3 years. Yes I honk a lot because I live in a very conjested area. Recently water went inside it and its sound has changed slightly. But who cares I bought the pair for 200rs and it pretty much did its job.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
    Sir! I Suggest you to Better do a Search Before Calling my Mods 3rd Class or Fake, These are Made in Turkey, Not China or Copy.I know the Original Horns have Only Positive Terminal as the HONDA City's Horn & also I've Checked my JDM's Dual Horn Both have Single Terminal, With Negative Grounded. & Most of Stock Horns have these.

    Perhaps ones U R Talking about R Spanish made!

    As for the Positions of Snail Type Horns Stock Position, I've Saw in a Banged ACCORD at a HONDA 3s, With Bumper Removed, It had Snail Type Horns at Exact Position on which I have Mounted.

    Perhaps U say the PW members since 2006 or 2005, are Selling Copy items here.
    Pai sentimental na hoon mama ka matlab or tha. He was not trying to say anything about the horns you purchased rather he was answering a point that I made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Sir first of all, JazakALLAH for the detailed reply, I agree cent percent to it!

    But here is the thing, I want all this for my Idsi city 2004. Its over 230 Thousand kilometers by now. I am facing missing problems on petrol, power loss, poor acceleration beyond one can even think of, Poor idling and to top it off, the car stalls in idling. I always need to floor the pedal when starting it.

    On CNG however, its okay. But some idling problems ARE there. Last week on M2, I was driving it on petrol after quite sometime since I usually don't use it in days of CNG loadshedding because of poor fuel economy, I prefer a non converted car. I can easily kill a new corolla up the few steep climbs on motorway, however, last week it acted simply pathetic as I may put it. Didn't even cross 130kph on petrol, that too without AC and did just 200kms in half tank of fuel when other member's are achieving 450kms+ easily.

    Well, okay. You've successfully convinced me to go to 3S. And I will very soon inshALLAH. Just that I always take cars to them because of warranty issues and jugaar mechanics scattered all over the twin cities. This one is a bit older piece with us so I thought may be why not try some other guy this time and check the difference in the way they do stuff.

    But I will go to Honda Centre now inshALLAH.

    And unfortunately, my car needs all of the above except for ignition coils' continuity inspection. The other car with me is just over 5k driven.
    I am almost there. Have you ever changed fuel pump in your car. In either case it is your fuel pump that is giving up which is creating problems on petrol. I have already gone through all this and have mentioned it somewhere in the thread as well. No need to change the filter just change fuel pump motor. You have a lot of options. In open market it is available for 800-1500-2000rs. I have not tried 2000 rs one. But I have tried both 800 rs and 1500 rs. The one that I had in 800 rs was good in pick and pressure but for that you have to be careful to not let the fuel in the tank drop below quarter mark otherwise it will create strange sounds and they will prevail. 1500 rs one is almost sound less you can not tell whether the pump is running or not.

    Half of your problems will be solved by just changing the fuel pump and yes bad fuel pump affects fuel economy. I used to get 13 when my fuel pump was bad and you know what I am getting these days. Dont change the pump assembly that plastic case because this thing has the Spring that is called FPR and only genuine thing can deliver pressures suitable for smooth drive. The sock underneath pump can be cleaned with petrol and you are good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    @memon simply bcz other wire is ground or negative which is car body itself.
    Isnt it better to connect both horns rather than grounding them with the body

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
    Sir! I Suggest you to Better do a Search Before Calling my Mods 3rd Class or Fake, These are Made in Turkey, Not China or Copy.I know the Original Horns have Only Positive Terminal as the HONDA City's Horn & also I've Checked my JDM's Dual Horn Both have Single Terminal, With Negative Grounded. & Most of Stock Horns have these.

    Perhaps ones U R Talking about R Spanish made!

    As for the Positions of Snail Type Horns Stock Position, I've Saw in a Banged ACCORD at a HONDA 3s, With Bumper Removed, It had Snail Type Horns at Exact Position on which I have Mounted.

    Perhaps U say the PW members since 2006 or 2005, are Selling Copy items here.
    Honda City Fan Club -1227060 .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rustam54 View Post
    ^^Oh i thought its the other car that has reached 40k mark. But i think i mis read the original post.
    I got that the moment I read your post, the arguments you made are perfectly valid though, Thanks a lot noman bhae!

    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    I am almost there. Have you ever changed fuel pump in your car. In either case it is your fuel pump that is giving up which is creating problems on petrol. I have already gone through all this and have mentioned it somewhere in the thread as well. No need to change the filter just change fuel pump motor. You have a lot of options. In open market it is available for 800-1500-2000rs. I have not tried 2000 rs one. But I have tried both 800 rs and 1500 rs. The one that I had in 800 rs was good in pick and pressure but for that you have to be careful to not let the fuel in the tank drop below quarter mark otherwise it will create strange sounds and they will prevail. 1500 rs one is almost sound less you can not tell whether the pump is running or not.

    Half of your problems will be solved by just changing the fuel pump and yes bad fuel pump affects fuel economy. I used to get 13 when my fuel pump was bad and you know what I am getting these days. Dont change the pump assembly that plastic case because this thing has the Spring that is called FPR and only genuine thing can deliver pressures suitable for smooth drive. The sock underneath pump can be cleaned with petrol and you are good to go.
    Sorry, I might have missed that, can u please provide a link to that post of urs?

    And what you mean is, the pump is bad? I thought its the filter that gets clogged over time?

    There is no check light whatsoever showing up in the cluster. I'll get a diagnostic run on the car before they perform any job, i.e measuring the fuel pressure being delievered upto the engine. This car has been driven on petrol for over 90k kms as per my estimate, and the pump/filter etc hasn't been changed yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Actually that is the best place to put a horn but I am not fond of opening up the bumper just for the sake of horns. It might be worthwhile for you because you bought original pair but I buy these horns from bilal gunj. My current pair is in my car for more than 1.5 years and I have used them a normal person would use in 3 years. Yes I honk a lot because I live in a very conjested area. Recently water went inside it and its sound has changed slightly. But who cares I bought the pair for 200rs and it pretty much did its job.
    Jus made ma Point & Defined Logic.

    Your Car, Your Choice, Either Open Bumper or not. Its Just im Fond of DIY, & Refined Installation, Thats it.
    Your Money, Your Choice Either Bilal Gunj Product or 0-Meter


    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Pai sentimental na hoon mama ka matlab or tha. He was not trying to say anything about the horns you purchased rather he was answering a point that I made.
    *Hmm OK!! I didn't Used it for U! Ur Choice!
    For Ur Info I Jus Explained him what Really I Bought, & as I had Mentioned a Buyer Source, So I don't wanna ruin someone sales here, Especially when one is Honest & Corrected Fadi Bhai's Point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
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    hahah!! Ur PC, Ur Choice, Keep it , Or BANG & BURN it!!
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    @accord7362

    Sir Thanx A Lot For Ur Appreciation, Ur Like Means A Lot More to mee! So Nice of U!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    @Skt_Z4 is it all done by u or u brought electrician to home.
    Plz show us the result and wts the difference b/w these boch light vs normal and price please.
    Sorry!! I didn't noted down Ur Point, I will Post it Soon as i get time! INSHAA ALLAH!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by smartdevil_striker View Post
    Good going waleed bhai...Kindly share detailed results if possible
    Quote Originally Posted by smartdevil_striker View Post
    Mashallah Aankhain looking Zaalim!! Kindly share pic in night time and install led in parking
    Thanx A Lot Sir, So Nice of U to Appreciate!!! Its all Bcuz of U!!
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