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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    can anyone tell me pcd of city 15" rims for tyers 185/60/15
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    ^^^ 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    can anyone tell me pcd of city 15" rims for tyers 185/60/15
    jazakallah
    and bro, isnt PCD to do with the rim and the hub only. i mean, PCD would remain same no matter which tyres u go for, right ? please correct me if i m wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    can anyone tell me pcd of city 15" rims for tyers 185/60/15
    jazakallah
    Dearest ahmad bhai, you need PCD only in case you plan to change the stock rims of your aahsiqui 2 to aftermarket ones. Tyre size is the same no difference, PCD only matters in case of Hub + rim.

    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    and bro, isnt PCD to do with the rim and the hub only. i mean, PCD would remain same no matter which tyres u go for, right ? please correct me if i m wrong
    Correct. PCD is the "pitch circle diameter", the diameter of a circle drawn through the center of the wheel's bolt holes.
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    Jazakallah mere bhayio for your guidence, frankly I am very poor in such technical things.
    Yes wishing for aftermarket rims so noted its pcd is 100

    The reason for mentioning tyer specifications was may be after market rims comes in differnt width size in view of tyer width so I understand rim width would be same and I just look for 4nuts 100 pcd rims

    Pls correct me if I am wrong

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Are you sure oem pump costs just 4k rs. Sometime back when I called them about the price they said they will charge around 25000 rs for the job may be they were just kidding, but if it is just 4k for the oem than those ***** cost honda some business here because I would have gone for that with my eyes closed.

    The pump is intended to run all the time so the companies dont put a relay. Well if you open a pipe in the engine bay that is petrol inlet for the engine it is quite pressurized and on opening will spill a lot of petrol. The pump is like a fridge or ac compressor it runs at a constant speed no matter how much petrol is required. It is the fpr that regulates the pressure of petrol in the system. Once the line is pressurized according to the requirement the excess fuel is sent back to the tank. So the fuel pump is working all the time.

    The pump would burn only in case if its inlet is blocked too much or there is too less petrol in the tank. The intank fuel pump is cooled down by being in the tank and if it does not find petrol it will burn. This is the reason why mechanics dont test the pump outside the car.
    Well the post below my words is more than a year old but 25000 Rs for a God Damn Fuel pump is simply bull crap. The rates might have gone up a bit or its possible that they've gone down for this particular model (it happens), but still my insight says it won't cost above 4.5k Rs.

    The guy who told you 25000 Rs was a scum.bag.

    P.S baakee replies after aftaaree.

    Quote Originally Posted by accord7362 View Post
    Fuel filter/pump :3910
    disk pads :6280
    40K check up charges :3000


    All the figures are in Pak rupees & sorry I don't kn the separate brake service charges

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmad_yar View Post
    Jazakallah mere bhayio for your guidence, frankly I am very poor in such technical things.
    Yes wishing for aftermarket rims so noted its pcd is 100

    The reason for mentioning tyer specifications was may be after market rims comes in differnt width size in view of tyer width so I understand rim width would be same and I just look for 4nuts 100 pcd rims

    Pls correct me if I am wrong
    No bhai jee, all you need to look for is 4x100 PCD 15" rims for your car. Tire shire jo marzi aye lagaen no worries. If go to a shop, tell them to show you rims for Honda City ivtec and when they do, simply look inside the rims diameter and you will find 100x4 written at the back of a spoke, just for clarification, have a look.

    When they balance the wheels, tell them to install weights on the inner lip or sticker weights behind the wheel spokes.
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    Dear fawad bhai
    All noted
    Jazakallah for guidence
    Honda city fan club zinda baad

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    No bhai jee, all you need to look for is 4x100 PCD 15" rims for your car. Tire shire jo marzi aye lagaen no worries. If go to a shop, tell them to show you rims for Honda City ivtec and when they do, simply look inside the rims diameter and you will find 100x4 written at the back of a spoke, just for clarification, have a look.

    When they balance the wheels, tell them to install weights on the inner lip or sticker weights behind the wheel spokes.
    but even then he has to be careful about the offset of the rim i have had this horrible experience of going for wrong offset in my Platz with 100 PCD and ended up in returning the rims the next day here is the link to that thread

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/whe...e-bye-bye-rims

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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Well the post below my words is more than a year old but 25000 Rs for a God Damn Fuel pump is simply bull crap. The rates might have gone up a bit or its possible that they've gone down for this particular model (it happens), but still my insight says it won't cost above 4.5k Rs.

    The guy who told you 25000 Rs was a scum.bag.

    P.S baakee replies after aftaaree.
    Oh my bad why I did not see at a year ago when I was running for fuel pump change here and there. 3950 is a good price considering it is an oem thing. Yes he sure may have been a scum bag and yes now the rates are not going to more than 5000 rs. Go for that with your eyes closed. If my pump gets bad again I might get the oem thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    @Skt_Z4 is it all done by u or u brought electrician to home.
    Plz show us the result and wts the difference b/w these boch light vs normal and price please.
    Quote Originally Posted by accord7362 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
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    Hello everybody

    I've plans to buy a city by the end of this year. Can someone guide roughly guide me about the different models of city from 97 to 2005? i mean the difference between sx8 or 2000 and 2002 models etc and which is the best among them (keeping in view that i'm a regular mehran owner so looking for comfortable, economic and a ride that has low maintenance cost).

    My budget might me between 700-750k .. i'll try to increase it because I'll be looking for a car in pristine condition and then later work on it to make it better. please guide me in this regard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skt_Z4 View Post
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    Waleed bhai... yeh same post mere thread pe b post kerden!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    now thats one damn good observation....hahahaha...u meant that why was the window stuck in CLOSED position if the window switch was stuck in DOWN position (the window open position) maybe as the upper click motion was free, very much possible that the button when last used to CLOSE the window got free and stuck there, hence constantly providing current to the motor, which in result was extremely hot. the clicking sound must have been some mechanism in it which was trying to disconnect the circuit, and once it did, the next click sound might be from the stuck UPWARD motion of the button, thereby engaging the motor again.....and maybe when the system noticed in next 5 seconds that bhai he is still holding the button up, it kicked in to disconnect the circuit again with a CLICK sound i heard, only to be clicked AGAIN by the stuck button and so on. thats the only logical explanation i have

    PS : gibberish, right ??
    Yes, exactly. haha! Mechanic said the switch was stuck in "down" position so the window should have rolled fully down and get stuck there rather than rolling up fully and getting stuck. The switch was surely stuck in "up/close" position so you were unable to open it despite trying from the passenger side switch (I am sure you tried that).

    That's funny and be thankful to almighty ALLAH that the motor or the wiring burn out, else you would've faced a lot of issues. What happened probably was that someone used the switch and released it brutally, I mean with a "TAKK" sound. The spring when taking back the button if released improperly is capable of doing that.

    There is a window motor protection relay which cuts off if the current being drawn by the motor increases drastically. It saved your pocket, congrats. Yes it was gibberish and I read it 3 times
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Kaptaan is back
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolsmart View Post
    there is a professional mechanic at The honda 2s Rwl, peshawar road named Muneeb. Although he can do all work (except alignment), but u have to tell him to do things very gently since u care 4 ur car engine bay as well.
    spark plug to PW kay kisi bai say mangwa lo e.g jz or someone else. Transmission oil be genuine Mehran auto Rwl sadar road say lay lo. and wheel alignment, ye 3 kam to independent he kara lo.
    Hmm, JazakALLAh bhai for the advice, I'll surely hit him with the queries


    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Are you sure oem pump costs just 4k rs. Sometime back when I called them about the price they said they will charge around 25000 rs for the job may be they were just kidding, but if it is just 4k for the oem than those ***** cost honda some business here because I would have gone for that with my eyes closed.

    The pump is intended to run all the time so the companies dont put a relay. Well if you open a pipe in the engine bay that is petrol inlet for the engine it is quite pressurized and on opening will spill a lot of petrol. The pump is like a fridge or ac compressor it runs at a constant speed no matter how much petrol is required. It is the fpr that regulates the pressure of petrol in the system. Once the line is pressurized according to the requirement the excess fuel is sent back to the tank. So the fuel pump is working all the time.

    The pump would burn only in case if its inlet is blocked too much or there is too less petrol in the tank. The intank fuel pump is cooled down by being in the tank and if it does not find petrol it will burn. This is the reason why mechanics dont test the pump outside the car.
    Yaar, what I said is because I have a small experience in this regard, there was a car with my friend, a honda civic, which used to sputter a lot while converting on CNG, it was newly installed in it. We showed it to a mechanic and he said "OOOOOHHHHHH, chaal da puttar, khota, pagal". According to him, the CNG installer had not installed the petrol "cut off" relay, so he opened up some wiring under the dashboard and installed a small white switch type box inside, and after wards when the car switched to CNG or petrol, it clicked and the problem went away.

    And yes I know, the taxi walas don't fill petrol in their cars and instead have gotten them direct start on CNG, almost all of them have their petrol pumps burnt.

    But what you said regarding that is also quite true that excess fuel is returned to the tank.

    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Your assumption is too narrow to be true yet it is quite plausible. Since the petrol moves in several pipes and thin spaces I dont think a large particle can make its way to the injectors. Normally they are clogged from outside due to CNG use and from inside they are clogged if petrol that is varnish like is used.

    I would say that leave injectors at the moment and concentrate on the pump, if the problem sustains than go to injectors, and please do inquire from honda before hand what will they charge for pump complete replacement and I doubt the oem genuine one cost 4000 rs

    BTW my car when its fuel pump was bad was flawless on CNG I dont know why your car is giving you trouble on CNG. Yes when you shift from a petrol car to CNG it does feel like its dead but missing is indigestible atleast to me.

    I am using stock spark plugs NGK BP6RE Y11.
    Yes, that's true as well. But of course, I didn't mean it that way. What I meant is a chuck if breaks off of the fuel filtration system, it would convert to small form, in theory you can say a lot of carbon is travelling towards the engine/injectors at once. This amount of carbon would've otherwise traveled in like "years" of vehicle use.

    Yes of course I'll ask them everything before getting stuff done, market research and home work is my basic priority. Currently the car is not in use, I'll get the stuff done to it asap once I get free.

    On CNG, well I guess its the spark plugs, since they're more than 40k kms used. I last replaced them at 190k or so.

    I am a very calm driver, dead or slow accelerating cars aren't much of a problem to me, what I want the most is that a car should be trouble free and responsive. I can't bear driving something which would die in case of a lazy downshift. It also gives jerks sometimes, as if someone tried to kill the ignition but it came back up and managed to survive, I guess the plugs fail to fire properly or one of the ignition coils is a bye bye for me.
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    Some initial mileage without my special settings with full AC ON

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    Quote Originally Posted by fahad_reloaded View Post
    Some initial mileage without my special settings with full AC ON

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    Where is the picture?
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    Dear city owners, My friends 2007 city steermatic's exhaust tip cover has fallen or it has been taken off he would like to know from where he could get another one other then Honda center and how much does it cost..thanks in advance
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