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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Replace your clutches, its time for new ones. Whole set: Clutch plate, pressure plate and clutch release bearing. Will cost you 8k for whole set, @ahmadbila will tell you the brand name because I forgot.

    There is also a cheaper set available at 6k Rs, Daikin Exedy.

    P.S: ****DO NOT POUR THE EXISTING TRANSMISSION FLUID BACK IN**** Get it replaced by Zic or Genuine Honda Tranny Oil.

    its called F.C.C. comes in a blue color packing.
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    @mkkd .....

    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Recently, a brother was having problems regarding the CNG settings on his city. I quoted him the method I used (it rocked my car) and Alhamdolillah, he is veryyyy happy with his car now.

    Let me tell you something, City Idsi and ivtec is without any doubt, probably the sweetest car in its category when it comes to using CNG. If played with it the Pro way, it won't even let you feel that its on CNG. I give my word here.

    Mine has clocked something above 216K kms by now, out of which 170K kms are completely on CNG. Never ever gave me a problem unless under special circumstances, which can be solved without much hassle.

    acha, so sharing the method over here, for my fellow members. I suggest all of you tune your car according to these (DIY). It is very easy and I bet you'll feel a great great difference in the drive and feel of the car.

    -Get your car's jack, start it up. When on cng, press the accelerator pedal with the jack and accelerate to precisely 3k RPM level. Not more not less.

    -The jack might feel to be slipping, so once you achieve 3k, put a small heavy thing on jack such that it only stops it from slipping, doesn't press it further down, like a small piece of brick.

    -After this, observe the rpm needle for several seconds and assure that the rpm isn't moving now. Fixed on a point. like 3000, 3100 something but NOT moving.

    -Now, get urself a screw driver, use it to calibrate ur T bolt, not by ur hands, its not accurate that way.

    -First, tighten ur main T bolt, such that rpm decreases below 1.5k (note that accelerator position is to be kept rock hard FIXED) not to be moved during this. Now the rpm will only vary as the T bolt is tightened or loosened.

    -Now slowly, start opening it VERY precisely and the RPM will start increasing.

    -Check and find an accurate spot where rpm doesn't increase further. Assure the spot by tightening the bolt a little and then opening it back to achieve the MAXIMUM rpm possible by the bolt. Don't open the bolt beyond this point.

    -After all this done, remove the jack and let the engine idle.

    -Now, start opening the small idle adjustment screw slowly, engine will start shuddering, do it slowly so that just as the engine shudders, you STOP opening further immediately or the engine will stall. DON'T accelerate the engine to keep from stalling.

    -Now start closing it slowly until the engine feels to be the smoothest. Try to find the spot where the rpms stabilize the most.

    -Check this by just slightly hitting the accelerator pedal (not pressing it, sirf jhatka dena hai so that engine revs up and comes back to idle by itself) look at the needle closely, the rpm should STOP at 800 or 750 and should not decrease beyond that and come back up.

    -This procedure will also help optimize ur engine to its best and the acceleration will improve a lot.

    -Try this and maintain the best accuracy possible because its a game of accuracy. Bhaan bhaan wali tuning done by our local ustaads is nothing.

    Human feet or hands aren't capable of maintaining constant RPM levels so use a jack and assure that pedal position does not change a millimeter during this procedure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    its called F.C.C. comes in a blue color packing.
    Thanks Captain Sahib

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3170 View Post
    Thank you brother. I'll consult Ahmed bhai for brand. The way of CNG tuning u introduced is really doing magic on m idsi.
    please elaborate the cng tuning method
    Edit-Sorry i missed post #8543 my bad

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    Guys can anyone guide me the re-sale price of the following.

    - Honda City Aspire 1.3
    - Year 2013
    - Driven 1,200 km/- only
    - City - Karachi
    - Fully insured with tracker installed.

    Any rough price estimates will help me to decide the right tag for it.

    Thank you...

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    I have asked this before but did'nt got a satisfactory answer about the cling cling sound coming when pressing brake pedal the mechanic say's it is the brake booster noise little bit irritating noise,irrating is bearble but i can't compromise on car break.Are there chances that break can get fail anytime (ALLAH na karey ) 2 months ago change the break pads the voice dissapeared for quite time but now it has came back so gurus what should i do car is city 05 manual?Kharacha ziada tu nhn would prefer more people to give review on this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engrsahab760 View Post
    I have asked this before but did'nt got a satisfactory answer about the cling cling sound coming when pressing brake pedal the mechanic say's it is the brake booster noise little bit irritating noise,irrating is bearble but i can't compromise on car break.Are there chances that break can get fail anytime (ALLAH na karey ) 2 months ago change the break pads the voice dissapeared for quite time but now it has came back so gurus what should i do car is city 05 manual?Kharacha ziada tu nhn would prefer more people to give review on this
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifaa View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Engrsahab760 View Post
    I have asked this before but did'nt got a satisfactory answer about the cling cling sound coming when pressing brake pedal the mechanic say's it is the brake booster noise little bit irritating noise,irrating is bearble but i can't compromise on car break.Are there chances that break can get fail anytime (ALLAH na karey ) 2 months ago change the break pads the voice dissapeared for quite time but now it has came back so gurus what should i do car is city 05 manual?Kharacha ziada tu nhn would prefer more people to give review on this
    No big deal. Brakes wont FAIL so easily. u just need to get ur brake pads replaced. and also get the rotors etc cleaned so there is no dust. sometimes, the brake dust (residue) alone can cause the squealing sounds.
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    hi city fans...
    need an word of advise from tire experts here...
    i have city 2004
    need to replace its tires
    presently its having some dunlop and they are 14... stock are ( I think ) 13...

    plz suggest any long lasting and trustworthy tires... and mention price if known..
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    Guys it is thai Spec 2-Din Mp3 player. Look classy BDW .. I wanted to know that if it will fit our City here in Pakistan ?????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by umair2203 View Post
    Guys it is thai Spec 2-Din Mp3 player. Look classy BDW .. I wanted to know that if it will fit our City here in Pakistan ?????????
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    WoW! Where did you get that from? Of course this will be a bolt to bolt clip on fit in our city!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    WoW! Where did you get that from? Of course this will be a bolt to bolt clip on fit in our city!
    over all shape is same but what about ac,rear def button?
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifaa View Post
    over all shape is same but what about ac,rear def button?
    They will be already in our stock panel bro, sirf player he lagana hai na.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    They will be already in our stock panel bro, sirf player he lagana hai na.
    ap ny mujy b bula diya ha yaar
    jahan is k player k button han wahan hamari k ac n rear def ka button hota ha
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    Quote Originally Posted by huzaifaa View Post
    ap ny mujy b bula diya ha yaar
    jahan is k player k button han wahan hamari k ac n rear def ka button hota ha
    Waqai, main b bhool gya tha lol, button I think hamaray walay he lag jayen ge in this phatta :/ Not sure.
    @umair2203, bro all you can do is give it a shot, looks possible but not so sure about it anymore
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    Let me know if someone is selling vario 2006-8 having isb registration. My contact no is 03085200847. Thanks

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    salam how r u bros ?

    can u guys solve a matter please i have honda city 2006 idsi manual

    and the problem is that my car battery goes dead in 2-3 days if i dont start the car

    i have changed the battery and showed my car to electricians too

    but they all said u have to keep ur car running daily

    they checked the generator and all the things are perfectly fine

    but still the same problem

    and my friends has alto and civic they usually start their cars after 10 - 20 days and their cars starts with just a half self

    i have to start the car daily for 5-10 mins and keep it running

    please help me :-(

    how many days honda city can sit ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Li0nMeMoN View Post
    salam how r u bros ?

    can u guys solve a matter please i have honda city 2006 idsi manual

    and the problem is that my car battery goes dead in 2-3 days if i dont start the car

    i have changed the battery and showed my car to electricians too

    but they all said u have to keep ur car running daily

    they checked the generator and all the things are perfectly fine

    but still the same problem

    and my friends has alto and civic they usually start their cars after 10 - 20 days and their cars starts with just a half self

    i have to start the car daily for 5-10 mins and keep it running

    please help me :-(

    how many days honda city can sit ???
    Check the voltage on battery terminals once the car is started if they are above 14.4 your battery and alternator are fine if below that get your battery completely charged from external charger and also check for specific gravity of electrolyte in each cell

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