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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    Thanx for correction
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Exactly! thats the point, city is much cheaper then xli n still provides everything an xli has, even more i wud say.congratulations on ur purchase brother, im sure u r gonna enjoy the car as long as u keep it.
    and, a little correction, xli IS equipped with central locking.but nothing powered.
    Thankyou Ahmad. I have gone through this thread. You are doing a very nice job of I hope you will be of great help to me. I am certainly enjoying my City. Excellnt.

    Oh no Xli doesnt have central locking but power mirrors are there yes. ActuallyXli features are ot mentioned on Indus Motors web site. And we caunderstand why is this so

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahidims View Post
    Thankyou Ahmad. I have gone through this thread. You are doing a very nice job of I hope you will be of great help to me. I am certainly enjoying my City. Excellnt.

    Oh no Xli doesnt have central locking but power mirrors are there yes. ActuallyXli features are ot mentioned on Indus Motors web site. And we caunderstand why is this so
    Thanx big brother,i try to help members with the limited knowledge i gained in 4yrs ownership of my city.u ll find a lot of info from the previous pages and u can get more by just posting in here.experts are always just around the corner
    and yes, xli features make me go crazy, y cant they put 5k rs power windows in a 1.3m pkr car??? they r just selling their name now...
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    @Shahid gratz on ur car and a really nice color i might add

    have u changed ur tyres yet? do so if u can
    the difference is pretty noticeable when breaking hard and just High Revving it
    also the grip and control increases quite a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGhasanJ View Post
    @Shahid gratz on ur car and a really nice color i might add

    have u changed ur tyres yet? do so if u can
    the difference is pretty noticeable when breaking hard and just High Revving it
    also the grip and control increases quite a bit
    I second that, though I still experience a bit of body roll while cornering - there's a bit more confidence when accelerating out of a corner but sometimes down or up a slope things can get a bit nervous. I figure it could do better with a lowered center of gravity - but the the ride height as it stands is more along the lines of coping with our pot-holed roads than it is for track-like driving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kamiarshad2000 View Post
    Hey guys - Mashallah got my new
    City i-vtec (MT)
    few days back - n i think its pretty damn good! - was hearing a few, maybe quite a lot, 'cons' than 'pros' about this car - was always recommended towards XLI - but i wanted city - though drove both before final decision, and we clearly had a winner -

    have a few observations that i'd like to share:


    Pros:


    looks awesome (i named it 'optimus prime' as in transformers ), drive is clearly clearly quality + performance oriented - started a love affair with the black interior - mind boggling acceleration on a 1.3 engine (gives me hope ) and sounds roaring as well - spacious enough - comfy - the instrument panel and steering are coooool - really quiet cockpit specially when idle and zero vibration of engine in idle - Air con is goood plus powerful throw of fans - (dont make fun of me on this one but its true that..) it smells like a normal new car as compared to xli/gli which has the smell of decomposing rats kept in nail polish in plastic drums


    Cons:


    fuel avg is not so good yet, but have heard it get's on its toes in a few K's (just 280km driven in a week) - suspension slightly hard, with minor road noise travel in the cockpit (maybe due to the stock tyres) - crap tyres - one of my least favourite 'golf ball gear lever' - the door speakers are just not up to par - the alpine mp3 head unit again not upto par - removable antenna - dash material quality is unsatisfactory, but will do - rear wind screen has not such a nice view of outside from the inside, which gives difficulty in reverse, but its not that bad either - engine has a rough behaviour after 3 to 3.5 rpm, feels quiet and smooth below that, maybe this makes it exciting and tempting - toolkit is seriously crap quality - carpet is thin and has a slight cheap feel to it - installing CNG voids the warranty??? well... not confirmed but have heard from you guys.. please add to it..





    unexploited known goodies:


    - G-con technology, I need time to figure out what is this, though on paper, i've read it all, which says geforce control, but dont get the point of it being there, else it would've been easy to understand if it were a nissan skyline r35 . The only thing I noticed is it absorbs sideways geforces in corners or swift manouvers. I need a little help here guys..


    - ABS EBD brake assist: got all the goodies to stop, but havent tested em brakes hard enuf.





    Missing Stuff:


    Fog light spaces in front bumper, rear stop lamp, boot lamp, muffler/exhaust stainless steel tip, back door speakers (grills are there), remote controller for the alpine mp3, alloy rims (well negotiable) - all in comparison to price, not any xli gli city civic thing..





    But all in all Drive is a pleasure, dont wanna get out, no sign of strain except for reverse head turn viewing - and aaahh the AC is great - loving it - therefore lets one forget the 'cons' and the missing stuff, and lets you relax and do the job of driving.





    will add to it when i discover more about it, meanwhile check the pics out guys!


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    Well a very nice desription. No-one can put it better than this. I felt the very same. However, someone in reply said that there is a space for fog lights. thats a good info. I would look into it myself. coz may be the fog lights are not necessary, but it really adds in frontal beauty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGhasanJ View Post
    @Shahid gratz on ur car and a really nice color i might add

    have u changed ur tyres yet? do so if u can
    the difference is pretty noticeable when breaking hard and just High Revving it
    also the grip and control increases quite a bit
    well i wanted to change tyres to Michelin. but the dealer told me that it would cost u around 20k. then many of my frnds told me not to change them as normally the tyres with bigger size look good but decreases milleage. Only then i dropped the idea.

    About color yes. its a subjective matter but i personally like silver the most as it goes with every age group. But for youngsters i have seen Red is great. when polished its really sexy. i have seen my friends here at Fauji Fertilizer Company township. here the red color goes really dashing with green lawns and black road between them. but on highway i liked white and silver.

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    well i wanted to change tyres to Michelin. but the dealer told me that it would cost u around 20k. then many of my frnds told me not to change them as normally the tyres with bigger size look good but decreases milleage. Only then i dropped the idea.
    yar ap same size kay tyres dalain na
    R15 Factory Size hai to AfterMarket bhi R15 kay luga lain
    Mileage wont be affected but Tyres wont loose Traction coz the Quality of Rubber is better

    there r many ppl who keep the Factory Ones
    its just i noticed a significant difference thts why im suggesting

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    engine has a rough behaviour after 3 to 3.5 rpm, feels quiet and smooth below that, maybe this makes it exciting and tempting
    VTEC Kicks In Man its awesome :p

    well all Intake Valves open when u cross 3k RPM which increase Fuel Consumption Slightly but makes the Engine work on all 16Valves increasing power output

    below 3k RPM 4 Intake Valves r closed and car consumes very little Fuel

    its a good balance of performance and efficiency when needed

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    well i found people on internet saying that they are getting upto 14 km/l in city and 21 on highway. was a bit worried about it as i was gtting 17 on highway ad 11.6 in city (honda city 2010).BUT those who were saying that consumption improves after u drive it for some hundred kms, are actually right. after completing about 600 km it has suddenly started giving more mileage. in city i am getting 12.8km/l now while driving at 50 km/hr on the average. hope consumption will impove further. havent driven on highway again yet. one thing i wana ask is can i shift up my car to 4th gear if in 50 km/hr speed. i have found it very economical but is it the right thing to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGhasanJ View Post
    yar ap same size kay tyres dalain na
    R15 Factory Size hai to AfterMarket bhi R15 kay luga lain
    Mileage wont be affected but Tyres wont loose Traction coz the Quality of Rubber is better

    there r many ppl who keep the Factory Ones
    its just i noticed a significant difference thts why im suggesting
    ok bro. will search the market for getting them in lowest price

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    one thing i wana ask is can i shift up my car to 4th gear if in 50 km/hr speed. i have found it very economical but is it the right thing to do?
    u can do 5th Gear after crossing 60km/h
    this will keep the car running at 2k RPM and give excellent mileage

    since ur car is kinda New so for about 1000km keep the Revs high like 3k
    open up ur Engine kinda :p

    and ur rite Mileage will increase even more after ur first 1000km
    i have managed 14km/l in Karachi while driving at 2k RPM ofcourse it wont do this good in heavy traffic

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGhasanJ View Post
    u can do 5th Gear after crossing 60km/h
    this will keep the car running at 2k RPM and give excellent mileage

    since ur car is kinda New so for about 1000km keep the Revs high like 3k
    open up ur Engine kinda :p

    and ur rite Mileage will increase even more after ur first 1000km
    i have managed 14km/l in Karachi while driving at 2k RPM ofcourse it wont do this good in heavy traffic
    right. thnx bro.

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    @ city 2010 owners

    does the new city come with EBD ? on honda site they say it is ABS+BA,no mentioning of EBD,,,, but i have seen many ppl claiming that it has EBD also.

    wats the truth???

    if it dosent have EBD then is its braking less effective as compared to Gli which has ABS+EBD+BA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pico View Post
    @ city 2010 owners

    does the new city come with EBD ? on honda site they say it is ABS+BA,no mentioning of EBD,,,, but i have seen many ppl claiming that it has EBD also.

    wats the truth???

    if it dosent have EBD then is its braking less effective as compared to Gli which has ABS+EBD+BA.
    No city is not equipped with EBD, but in NO WAY that means its brakes arent as good as gli's are.things are different in city and gli.gli comes with 4 wheel disc brakes,it has abs and it badly needs EBD (electronic brake distribution) bcuz widout it, there r chances of getting wheels locked on slippery surfaces due to uneven brakes force on each wheel. city, on the other hand, has 2 wheel discs at front and rear wheel drum brakes.this setup doesnt require EBD, because only the front tyres can possibly lock but ABS is there to control and braking force usually doesnt vary bcuz of the difference in front and rear braking system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shahidims View Post
    well i wanted to change tyres to Michelin. but the dealer told me that it would cost u around 20k. then many of my frnds told me not to change them as normally the tyres with bigger size look good but decreases milleage. Only then i dropped the idea.

    About color yes. its a subjective matter but i personally like silver the most as it goes with every age group. But for youngsters i have seen Red is great. when polished its really sexy. i have seen my friends here at Fauji Fertilizer Company township. here the red color goes really dashing with green lawns and black road between them. but on highway i liked white and silver.
    Sir i wud strongly recommend u to get new tyres.must be atleast 185 tread sized.175 is too less for a car of this size and weight.if u want more grip, even 195s are ok.i using 185 in my idsi for a long time now, stock size was 165/80/r13 but im running it on 185/65/r14... 20mm tread and 1inch rim size increase. still gives excellent mileage.once i even had 195/60/r14, it had excellent grip and mileage wasnt too much effected too.if i get a new city, i wud get 195 size tyres for it.

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    @ahmadbila

    brother as there is only front disk in city, does the abs engage on front wheels only or does it on all 4 wheels ???
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    it has abs on all 4 wheels.although u may never need abs on rear wheels but rarely, even the rear wheels may lock,like if driving on ice etc.so it has abs in all 4 wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Sir i wud strongly recommend u to get new tyres.must be atleast 185 tread sized.175 is too less for a car of this size and weight.if u want more grip, even 195s are ok.i using 185 in my idsi for a long time now, stock size was 165/80/r13 but im running it on 185/65/r14... 20mm tread and 1inch rim size increase. still gives excellent mileage.once i even had 195/60/r14, it had excellent grip and mileage wasnt too much effected too.if i get a new city, i wud get 195 size tyres for it.

    never ever compromise on grip (which means safety) for just a small difference in fuel economy.
    ok bro. i have already started searching go get them in good price with exchange of the stock ones.

    just wanted to ask why the rear brakes are drum ones. i mean if front are disk then y rear are drum. is it for reducing cost or something related to safety. i dont have much knlowledge of the difference between the two.

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    also if you look at honda.com.pk they havent mentioned abs with front ones but have exclusively mention abs for rear ones. y is this so?

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