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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    All Idsi users to plz share which oil most of you are using or had use. Somebody suggested me kixx but I don't think so it's good for city.(my personal experience). Fully synthetic, semi synthetic or non synthetic???? my car is 2006, manual 1300cc, 80 k done.
    What you all suggest brothers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulzar View Post
    AoA dear all, I am new here & need an expert & urgent opinion specially those have proven track record as brother Xulfikar & others about the honda city vario transmission (mine is 2006).

    Problem: It has recently (since 3~4 weeks) been observed that during the drive in "D" I feel kind of pushes/jerks & sometimes "D" mode starts flashing & it feels like that the car has been disengaged from the gear because at this moment there seems no more power to drive & consequently I switch it off & restart!

    Things done so far: Complete service of throttle body, fuel injectors, tuning, all filters (excl: fuel) replaced etc. T/oil replaced some 22,000 km ago.

    Conclusions: I have got some opinions from local market (KHI) & Honda 3S; all agreed that problem in CVT but Honda suggests to get serviced valve body & change T/oil in first place costs some Rs. 15,000~50,000 (50k in case valve body replaced). However, the road side (as you call or DHA-Phase-II costlier w/shops advise to replace CVT with that of shershah & estimated cost is 35,000~40,000 k with some checking warranty 2~3 days (observation period).

    I request & appreciate all expert opinions from all having faced/experienced identical issues with Vario & got that fixed.

    Thank you & kind regards,

    Dear Bros, is there anyone there to share a piece of advice I request also saboor73 & Fahad.Ayub bros to share their expertise.

    thanks

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    Brothers need urgent help reagarding body paint of my city 2016.Kal mere neighbours k ghar spray paint hua jiski waja se meri gari p b fine mist par gai ha paint ki.Ha bohat he kam or gari ka colour white hone ki waja se nazar b ni aati except glasses p.Lekin hath phero tu feel hota ha k rough hogia h paint.Sirf chaat or diggi p masla h thora sa baki smooth ha gari.Sheeshay tu m petrol se saaf karlnga lekin paint ka kia karun?compound kara ln ya koi or cheap haal jis se paint phle jaisa hojae

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    photos ni upload kien kyun k nazar ni ata paint bus feel hota ha wo b chat and diggi p he bus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudessir View Post
    Brothers need urgent help reagarding body paint of my city 2016.Kal mere neighbours k ghar spray paint hua jiski waja se meri gari p b fine mist par gai ha paint ki.Ha bohat he kam or gari ka colour white hone ki waja se nazar b ni aati except glasses p.Lekin hath phero tu feel hota ha k rough hogia h paint.Sirf chaat or diggi p masla h thora sa baki smooth ha gari.Sheeshay tu m petrol se saaf karlnga lekin paint ka kia karun?compound kara ln ya koi or cheap haal jis se paint phle jaisa hojae
    Bro don't be worried..not a problem...!!!
    Just clay ur car...I'd recommend you to get yourself nanoskin autoscrub kit...and clay ur whole car...!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudessir View Post
    Brothers need urgent help reagarding body paint of my city 2016.Kal mere neighbours k ghar spray paint hua jiski waja se meri gari p b fine mist par gai ha paint ki.Ha bohat he kam or gari ka colour white hone ki waja se nazar b ni aati except glasses p.Lekin hath phero tu feel hota ha k rough hogia h paint.Sirf chaat or diggi p masla h thora sa baki smooth ha gari.Sheeshay tu m petrol se saaf karlnga lekin paint ka kia karun?compound kara ln ya koi or cheap haal jis se paint phle jaisa hojae
    Dont do anything, It will go with time. I mean if you try to scrub it with anything, it will destroy clear coat of your car. I had "leather Brown" on my silver honda city 2013. Car was parked even away from the main gate which was being painted (by spray gun) but due to air it get showers of paint. I my case it was clearly visible and car wash guy ask me many time that he can remove it with kerosene oil (Mati ka tail) but I dont bother it. Now after one year car is crystal clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaanpk View Post
    Spending more than a million on a Cultus doesn't make sense to me. That's why I am considering City 2004-05 or EXI/EXIS 2000-02.
    I am driving since 1991. I had many old cars like Toyota mark II, Willy jeep, Mazda 929 (probably), Corolla 1976 (I love this one) and Suzuki FX 1988. Suzuki never give problem during the long drives (all the others did). In 1998 I was having Corolla 1982 which I sold (because it was ripping half of my salary in repairs) and buy Suzuki Khyber 1996. I drive this car almost eight years without any repairs (Jus oil change and tuning + Plug and brake pedal things). Summary of all discussion is big cars are good in security but heavy on pockets. If you like HONDA CITY then dont go below 2010 model. or what ever you buy it should not driven more than 100k. Its my personal experience, any body can differ and all depends on you personal choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shahidwilliam View Post
    Bro don't be worried..not a problem...!!!
    Just clay ur car...I'd recommend you to get yourself nanoskin autoscrub kit...and clay ur whole car...!!!
    How to clay my car and where can i buy it in rawalpindi or islamabad?What is estimated price of clay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudessir View Post
    How to clay my car and where can i buy it in rawalpindi or islamabad?What is estimated price of clay?
    Its very easy to clay ur car with nanoskin autscrub clay but a bit difficult for the traditional clay..so I'll recommend you nanoskin autoscrub kit...!!!


    Nanoskin autoscrub kit is available with pw fellow member @ahmedyar but he's from lhr so u'll have to get it shipped.

    And in rawalpindi/Islamabad traditional clay of meguiars is available with pw fellow member Hash4u.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mudessir View Post
    How to clay my car and where can i buy it in rawalpindi or islamabad?What is estimated price of clay?
    Autoscrub kit is for rs 2500 (excluding shipping )

    And meguiars traditional clay is expensive for rs 3500 or above don't know exactly.



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    Quote Originally Posted by mudessir View Post
    Brothers need urgent help reagarding body paint of my city 2016.Kal mere neighbours k ghar spray paint hua jiski waja se meri gari p b fine mist par gai ha paint ki.Ha bohat he kam or gari ka colour white hone ki waja se nazar b ni aati except glasses p.Lekin hath phero tu feel hota ha k rough hogia h paint.Sirf chaat or diggi p masla h thora sa baki smooth ha gari.Sheeshay tu m petrol se saaf karlnga lekin paint ka kia karun?compound kara ln ya koi or cheap haal jis se paint phle jaisa hojae
    Quote Originally Posted by anwarshahbazch View Post
    Dont do anything, It will go with time. I mean if you try to scrub it with anything, it will destroy clear coat of your car. I had "leather Brown" on my silver honda city 2013. Car was parked even away from the main gate which was being painted (by spray gun) but due to air it get showers of paint. I my case it was clearly visible and car wash guy ask me many time that he can remove it with kerosene oil (Mati ka tail) but I dont bother it. Now after one year car is crystal clear.

    well, all saying from their experiences , let me tell you mine,

    once my 2007 cultus (black) faces almost same problem, a road was repairing , and charcoal liquid hitted my car, almost 70% of it, due to black on black it wasnt visible, but one can feel it like rubbing hand on it, what i simply did, uses kerosine oil (mitti ka tail), and havent face any problem till now, no shine/dull problem...faced this problem 2 years back(almost)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gulzar View Post
    Dear Bros, is there anyone there to share a piece of advice I request also saboor73 & Fahad.Ayub bros to share their expertise.

    thanks


    if you facing this problem for the first time, i dnt think change of gear NOW will be needing, just change CVT oil, clear throttle body, injectors , plugs, change mobil oil as well, i got feelings, after this you will not face this prob..



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    Hello dear members.. I was waxing my black Honda city yesterday and mistakenly I was doing this in sun..(i know it's dumb) now the wax is baked on car body because of sun and leaves some dotted wax marks on whole car and these are not going even after washing it.. So can u tell me how to remove this dry/baked wax from car paint without hurting it.. Thanks

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    i have Honda IDsi 2006 using Zic X7 10w-40 fully senthatic

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    Quote Originally Posted by smrana View Post
    i have Honda IDsi 2006 using Zic X7 10w-40 fully senthatic
    Good. I think gradually I must use this fully synthetic technology for my car.

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    i think i am using Havoline formula 10W30

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    Quote Originally Posted by abart View Post
    i think i am using Havoline formula 10W30
    You think or you are?
    N how's your experience brother?
    Which model you have and what's the average you are getting?
    SORRY TO ALL,
    those who think I am annoying by asking about the oil, but the fact is that I'm actually fedup of kixx (non synthetic and missfit for city atleast) , not a good experience. N I really want to change the oil, want good suggestions based on experience so I can avoid doing hit and trial experiments with my car.

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    Hey guys, im new to the forum. i own honda city 07, recently detected rust (Size of peach) on lower side of left front door. It has also damaged the paint and turning it into flakes. Guys need expert advise on how to go about it. as my car is completely genuine and this rust is giving me nightmares. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by 46121 View Post
    Hey guys, im new to the forum. i own honda city 07, recently detected rust (Size of peach) on lower side of left front door. It has also damaged the paint and turning it into flakes. Guys need expert advise on how to go about it. as my car is completely genuine and this rust is giving me nightmares. thanks

    i can understand your feelings, as i also suffer from this...

    i repainted 2 pieces in my city, and one was too bad that i putted an extra piece in it, in my view there is no other way except repaint that particular piece...



    P.S check your whole car, also front hissa and body from down, check for rust for the safe side
    Which of my photographs is my favorite? The one I?m going to take tomorrow ....

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    Hi Guys,

    I have few quetions

    1) Which coolant is better for honda city 2006 model?
    2) I need to buy a pair of used tyres. Any place you can recommend
    3) Which engine oil is better?

    Regards
    Umer

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