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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    @ahmedbila
    no bro i did not get time to get it checked the car is running fine so will get it checked next month
    @memon
    the clutch of honda city is inherently harder than other cars so don't worry that much about it.

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    ================================================== ==============

    So,guys, i was out of city for a few days.went to bahawalpur on my idsi a few days ago.left home at 6.30am and reached bhwlpur at 12.30pm. 360kms in 6 hrs... road condition after kabirwala wasnt good and tooo much traffic.anyways, i roamed around in bwp for some time and found it to be a beautiful city.i never expected it to be that developed, nice and clean.atleast the major roads are excellent.
    same day, left for multan and stayed at uncles place for the night.next day at 8am, i woke up, had to drop someone at nishter hospital.just when i reached the parking lot of nishter, the clutch bearing gave up it was the same bearing that came with the brand new car, that means it had completed 192,000kms while the clutch plate had 82,000kms on it.after waiting there for some time, sitting in my car with a/c on,a rescue car came (corolla indus ) and i got my car towed 8kms away from there, to a mechanic that my uncle trusted completely.work was started at 12pm.it took them around 4hrs to open the gearbox and found out that the dead bearing also caused the clutch plate to burn
    i got the clutch plate (3600rs) and bearing (1150rs). work ended at around 10pm and i was NOT completely satisfied.there were 4 problems.

    1) Gears werent shifting smoothly
    2) Check engine light was glowing at all times
    3) Gear oil was leaking (figured that out next day)
    4) The self starter was turning but it wasnt touching the flywheel so engine wasnt turning (this slipped the next day,on day 1,it was fine)

    anyways, when i reached back to Sargodha, problem 1 (hard gears) was gone as predicted by the mechanic.he said as the pressure plate is not changed, it will take some time to adjust.after 350kms,it did.

    The other 3 problems were fixed by my own mechanic.
    a clip of the exhaust sensor was loose which caused check light to glow.
    the gear oil drain nut wasnt properly tightened which was causing oil leak.i got it tightened and then got 0.5ltrs of oil refilled.
    one of the nut of started motor wasnt properly tightened (damn that guy, all problems because of loose nuts :@) and everything was back to normal. now my car is perfect once again, Mashallah

    All of this was caused because of my own negligence. The bearing was giving a very faint noise from some time but i still had a lot of life left on clutch plate.the job of opening gear box was too much for me to get done only for a bearing and then again for the clutch plate after a few months.My mechanic said that noisy bearings can last for thousands of kilometers so don't worry.But it did'nt.

    Moral:-
    NEVER ignore ANY kind of noise coming from the engine.try to narrow down the problem and get it fixed as soon as possible.Never delay change of such necessary parts as they can make u stop anytime anywhere.

    Things would have been worse if this bearing had given up somewhere near bahawalpur on the desert road.i would be more careful next time.

    Thats it for now guys, i thought i should share the whole story with u guys
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    wow that was an adventurous trip
    ahmed could you tell what was the sound of the bearing?
    next time you visit Lahore we have to meet its must

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    Quote Originally Posted by zohaib2226 View Post
    wow that was an adventurous trip
    ahmed could you tell what was the sound of the bearing?
    next time you visit Lahore we have to meet its must
    he he he yeah it was!
    well, sounds like... kkhhhhhssssssssssssssssss....
    if u just touch the clutch slightly, the sound changes or disappears or gets louder.if u press the clutch completely, it disappears.
    And yes, inshallah we ll meet whenever im in lahore next time
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    I am the BIGGEST fan of ur cool red steermatic other two are equally great but i just love the red color.... plus the pristine condition and excellent photography on the top of it... aaahh... perfection!!! (Y)
    & I am the BIGGEST fan of your
    JAZAKALLAHA all the pleasure is mine my brother @Ahmad rite now I am offshore INSHALLAHA will be back in mid June whenever u visit Lahore she will be all yours just a ph call away you have my number
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    Denso ND16 are almost as good as OEM ones.i dont know the price of OEM plugs.would be around 250rs i guess.

    as for accelerator cable, yes, change it.but the clutch cable, i ve got bad news for u there is NO clutch cable in idsi.its a hydrolic clutch, operated by oil.so if the clutch is hard, it CAN be an almost dead clutch plate.the procedure of changing clutch plate is a very long and tiring one.would take 4-5hrs atleast, cost of clutch plate + pressure plate + clutch bearing is around 8500rs and labour is 2000rs.
    i hope its not the clutch plate in ur car thats faulty.
    Apart from the clutch being hard there is no problem nor any extra noise and gear shift is also smooth plus release is also ok only sound is that when the clutch is pressed sometimes a cheen sound comes when the hood is opened its the sound that used to come from older cars like mehran etc when their clutch cable becomes hard and it goes in mehran after lubrication and clutch also becomes soft. What is the colour of good clutch oil the one in mine is almost of black colour

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    ================================================== ==============

    So,guys, i was out of city for a few days.went to bahawalpur on my idsi a few days ago.left home at 6.30am and reached bhwlpur at 12.30pm. 360kms in 6 hrs... road condition after kabirwala wasnt good and tooo much traffic.anyways, i roamed around in bwp for some time and found it to be a beautiful city.i never expected it to be that developed, nice and clean.atleast the major roads are excellent.
    same day, left for multan and stayed at uncles place for the night.next day at 8am, i woke up, had to drop someone at nishter hospital.just when i reached the parking lot of nishter, the clutch bearing gave up it was the same bearing that came with the brand new car, that means it had completed 192,000kms while the clutch plate had 82,000kms on it.after waiting there for some time, sitting in my car with a/c on,a rescue car came (corolla indus ) and i got my car towed 8kms away from there, to a mechanic that my uncle trusted completely.work was started at 12pm.it took them around 4hrs to open the gearbox and found out that the dead bearing also caused the clutch plate to burn
    i got the clutch plate (3600rs) and bearing (1150rs). work ended at around 10pm and i was NOT completely satisfied.there were 4 problems.

    1) Gears werent shifting smoothly
    2) Check engine light was glowing at all times
    3) Gear oil was leaking (figured that out next day)
    4) The self starter was turning but it wasnt touching the flywheel so engine wasnt turning (this slipped the next day,on day 1,it was fine)

    anyways, when i reached back to Sargodha, problem 1 (hard gears) was gone as predicted by the mechanic.he said as the pressure plate is not changed, it will take some time to adjust.after 350kms,it did.

    The other 3 problems were fixed by my own mechanic.
    a clip of the exhaust sensor was loose which caused check light to glow.
    the gear oil drain nut wasnt properly tightened which was causing oil leak.i got it tightened and then got 0.5ltrs of oil refilled.
    one of the nut of started motor wasnt properly tightened (damn that guy, all problems because of loose nuts :@) and everything was back to normal. now my car is perfect once again, Mashallah

    All of this was caused because of my own negligence. The bearing was giving a very faint noise from some time but i still had a lot of life left on clutch plate.the job of opening gear box was too much for me to get done only for a bearing and then again for the clutch plate after a few months.My mechanic said that noisy bearings can last for thousands of kilometers so don't worry.But it did'nt.

    Moral:-
    NEVER ignore ANY kind of noise coming from the engine.try to narrow down the problem and get it fixed as soon as possible.Never delay change of such necessary parts as they can make u stop anytime anywhere.

    Things would have been worse if this bearing had given up somewhere near bahawalpur on the desert road.i would be more careful next time.

    Thats it for now guys, i thought i should share the whole story with u guys
    oh oh anyway nice to read that at the end all the problems were rectify be careful next time
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    Quote Originally Posted by accord7362 View Post
    & I am the BIGGEST fan of your
    JAZAKALLAHA all the pleasure is mine my brother @Ahmad rite now I am offshore INSHALLAHA will be back in mid June whenever u visit Lahore she will be all yours just a ph call away you have my number
    he he he Yeh tou aap ka bara-pan hy
    inshallah we ll be meeting soon, i have to visit lahore after mid june to start of july 2 times, atleast.
    and yes im happy that after almost 3 days, all the problems are sorted out and my car is back to 100% now, Mashallah!
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    Honda City Fan Club -251535

    Is the clutch engine in the red circled container the oil in the container is very black should it be changed or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    Apart from the clutch being hard there is no problem nor any extra noise and gear shift is also smooth plus release is also ok only sound is that when the clutch is pressed sometimes a cheen sound comes when the hood is opened its the sound that used to come from older cars like mehran etc when their clutch cable becomes hard and it goes in mehran after lubrication and clutch also becomes soft. What is the colour of good clutch oil the one in mine is almost of black colour
    that "cheen" sound is very common.u can ignore it without any worries.but there is NO clutch cable in city.u see that small cylindrical oil bottle besides the brake oil bottle? thats the clutch operation oil. though u know it but a few people mistake it as transmission oil.clutch oil of my car is almost like veryyy dark green.i ve talked to many mechanics/oil gurus n they say u dont need to change it as theres a possibility that air can be trapped inside the clutch lines and that will cause problems.dirty oil is acceptable because its not being used as a lubricant or anything.its just used to transfer energy from point A to point B.
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    @memon
    yup.... thats it.n i ve already answered ur question.
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    I bought my Honda City AT 2011 about 2 months back. Current meter reading 3890 and HONDA I-9 told me to get first oil change after 5000Km. Should i wait till it reaches 5000km or should change it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
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    yup.... thats it.n i ve already answered ur question.
    So I think my citys clutch is ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by hasan12rana View Post
    I bought my Honda City AT 2011 about 2 months back. Current meter reading 3890 and HONDA I-9 told me to get first oil change after 5000Km. Should i wait till it reaches 5000km or should change it now.
    u better get it changed now.changing oil at 3000 kms is the best thing u can do to an engine.5000kms is acceptable but it can hurt the engine in long term.
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    @memon
    hopefully. just keep on driving without worries.
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    I think the moral of the story is to change the Clutch bearing when you are changing the Clutch Plate. What do you say? Because the cost of clutch bearing is not so much as compared to the cost of clutch plate and labour. Plus it can give you a very difficult time on long routes, specially when you are with family.
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    @ 5000 they do some sort of "Computer Inspection"; I might be wrong but I think these new cars ECUs gets adjusted to the driving styles. This Computer Inspection has significance importance.

    I suggest for new car owners to get the lubricant changed to some synthetic one @ 1000. These synthetic oils are good for 4000Kms. Use it upto 5000. In this 1000 - 5000 your car will get adjusted and by the time of 5000 inspection everything will be settled down. The only issue with synthetic lubricant is that there is no going back; once you have started using them; you should continue to use them.
    Quote Originally Posted by hasan12rana View Post
    I bought my Honda City AT 2011 about 2 months back. Current meter reading 3890 and HONDA I-9 told me to get first oil change after 5000Km. Should i wait till it reaches 5000km or should change it now.

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    @ahmad

    You got off very cheap with the clutch thing, actually my rides clutch bearin starting whinning way back when the car was around 60k....just a couple of weeks ago around 95+ it finally gave way. Only during the process of engaging the clutch would it start it`s dhamal. So yer mechanic was right it does run thousands before giving way. When i got my car to Honda, literally got my shocks paying the bill....pressure plate,clutch plate, bearing and gear oil changed cost 26k....working fine now though.

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    @Originally Posted by hasan12rana
    (I bought my Honda City AT 2011 about 2 months back. Current meter reading 3890 and HONDA I-9 told me to get first oil change after 5000Km. Should i wait till it reaches 5000km or should change it now.)


    AOA bro
    do as the doctor advize........ISN'T IT SIMPLE
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
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    hopefully. just keep on driving without worries.
    What is written in manual about clutch lubricant replacement because brake oil is also replaced so I dont see any problem in replacing clutch oil if done by honda

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