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    Default Honda City Fan Club

    (Maintainence schedule added at the end)

    Hi guys..!!! I thought we should have a Fan club for honda city.Theres already a fourm for City but thats dedicated to city steermatic only.in this club,we shall hav steermatic,idsi,cvt nd all models of city and all their variants. Well the history of this car is somewhat like this...


    First generation (1997-2000) On january 22nd 1997,the first Honda City was launched as a sedan.The city was always made for families and not for racing or sports.Thats why they were always equiped with the latest or sometimes firsts in the market.The interior was always very comforting and the seating position is also very comfortable.It had the options of power windows,and side view mirrors for the top model though they were not there in the base model.Power steeing,front seatbelts,digital clock,AC was available in the basic model too.One the outside,it was very elegantly designed.Beautiful,handsome and decent.Under the hood,it had a 1300cc 16valve SOHC engine ,and was the first car to have 16-valve in 1300cc category.


    Second generation (2000-2003) On January 20th 2000, Honda replaced the original City of 1997 with an update.This model of city had the basic shape of its predecessor.but with new crystal head lamps at the front,power side view mirrors and a chrome lining around the rear numberplate garnish.It was the first car in pakistan to have rear crystal headlights.It had two varients. Exi and Exi-s.The Exi had manual windows and side view mirrors,body colored licence plate garnish(not chromed), semi-fabric seat covers, 165/13 tyres,black door mirrors and no high mount stop lamp.But the Exi-s had all these things in it.The outside looked more gracefull with crystal lights and some new lines on the exterior.The engine in both of them were same.But this one had Programed fuel injection(PGM-Fi).There was optional 4-speed automatic transmission available. The engine engine's maximum horse power=90/6400 and maximum torque =11.5/4700 This model was produced until 2003


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    Third generation (2003-2005) On 23rd August 2003, the third-generation Honda City was launched which had a totally new shape.It was a very stylish and aerodynamic shape introduced in pakistan for the first time.It also was the first car to introduce i-dsi (intelligence-dual and sequential ignation) and CVT (continuously variable transmission) in Pakistan.It had an engine which is higly fuel economic and was build specially for better fuel economy.This car was equipped with power windows(pinch free) , power side view mirrors, tilt adjustable steering column and yet another first,the EPS or electriconic power steering.it made the steering very very soft to turn and also it had no oil used in it so it had no maintanence required.Other featrure of this car is that its the first Euro 3 comliant car in pakistan,that means that its very low on harmful emmisions.The EURO 3 emission standard are applicable in Europe from the year 2000, they are considered to be amongst the most strict standards worldwide. The standard limits emissions to 2.1 g/kWh CO, 0.66 g/kWh HC, 5.0 g/kWh NOx, 0.1 g/kWh particles. Another striking feature is, the boot space(400ltrs).it was bigger then any local car availabe at that time.This car was basically meant for families.it had two glove compartments,a big boot,empty space under the rear seats, four glass holders,and also, a smal space provided in the two front doors.And guess what? All of these options were available in the basic version.This city was divided on just the basis of the drive-train.One was manual,and other was automatic. On the outside,this car was designed very sophisticatedly,it looked smaller than other cars in size from outside but is alot more spacious inside.the body design was an immediate hit among fans and poeple who knew somthing about this type of things.Even the side view mirrors are designed to cut through air.


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    Fourth generation (2005-present) In september 2005,the fourth generation City was released.It was basically a face-lifted version on the previous model.it is known as the City ZX in Thailand, India, the New City in Malaysia and City in Pakistan.The most significant changes are a new exterior (new front grille, new headlamps, new fog lights, newtaillights and bumpers). The front end has been extended forward by 65 mm (2.6 in) while the rear has been extended by 15 mm (0.6 in). The VTEC trim have 15 inch alloy wheels as standard equipment. Interior changes are minor but it does include an armrest for the driver.The rest remains almost same as in the previous model. The engine remains the same but the intake manifold has been modified, resulting a 10% temperature drop in the intake air temperature (IAT), the suspension has been upgraded as well. Honda City in Pakistan are using CVT gearbox for both i-DSI and VTEC variants. The CVT-VTEC 1.5L gearbox is equipped with a Simulated 7-Speed Automated Manual Transmission (AMT) using paddle shift buttons. This is very rare for a subcompact of its class.This VTEC variant was called City-steermatic.

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    Steermatic:- The steermatic is basicaly a name of a technology used in the city VTEC 1.5L model.this model had a different engine than the idsi.it had a 1.5L engine with an auto transmission.this was not any other auto transmission.its is steermatic,means that you can change gears just by push of a button on the steering wheel.this is basically used in F1 racing.It has 2 options,either you drive on fully automated CVT option,or you select a virtual manual transmission.For this,you would change the gears when you want with a push of a button.This model also have an opitiron meter and also stock imported 15" alloy rims with bridgestone Potenza tyres. This technology is very sophisticated and advanced,which,sadly was'nt accepted by the buyers in Pakistan because they simply could not understand it and hence,this particular model of city was discontined.


    I-dsi:- I-dsi stands for Intelligence-dual and sequential ignation.In this type of engine,two spark plugs are employed for each cylinder.That makes 8 spark plugs instead of 4 plugs used by most cars.Adding of an additional plug assures complete burning and utilizing the last drop of fuel thrown into the cylinders which would provide you the best performace and better fuel consumption.Not all the times the 8 plugs are working,but when u push your car through high revs or speeds,all of them work simeltaneously and thats when ypu can feel the difference.But theres one drawback in it,this engine is equiped with 8 valves not 16.Hence it decreased the performance and city seems to be out of breath after 5000RPMs,but as this is basically a family car,performance is not the priority.The best thing about this was the fuel economy,about which,you can read the paragraph below.

    Fifth generation (2009 onwards) On 31th january 2009,the fifth generation of the honda City was launched in Pakistan.Which was an immediate hit among the fans.The previous Honda City was criticised due to its shape,but this time the best thing was the shape,which is even more aerodynamic then the previous one and also resembles the big Honda brothers,Civic and Accord.The best thing about the exterior of this City is the front view of the car.The wide,sleek and elegently designed radiator grill gives a refreashing look to the car.The dimesions of the car are almost similar to those of the older model.The sharp lines on the hood gives the city some attitude on the road.The boot space is increased about 25%,from 400ltrs to 506ltrs.But the good news doesnt end there,under the hood,There is a fairly powerful 1.3L SOHC VTEC engine.which produces a healthy 100bhp,enough for a 1.3L car.But dont think that you would have to lose something on the fuel economy side to get this sort of power.The fuel economy is actually improved.Some indian car expert magzines gave the figures of 22km/ltr for the auto transmission,which is the best in its class.The emission standards are improved as well.Previous city was Euro 3 compliant,but the new city is Euro 4 compliant.which means that your car is enviornment friendly.The only thing which you need to be concered about is the interior,which feels abit cramped campared to the previous City,but there is a reason to it.In the pervious city.the hood and the trunk had only a small portion of the exterior length covered,and the cabin was much bigger,which gave nice interior space,but from outside,the car looked ugly to some eyes.To correct this ugliness,the car was redesigned with increased hood and trunk length from outside,this made it look much better but the drawback was the lesser interior space.The second thing was the missing silver portions on the interior bits and panels of the Pakistani City.The interior would have felt lively only if some spots of it would have been in silver color.But you have alot other advantages,like 15" rims,ABS as standard,vtec engine,details of fuel milage on a special screen in the speedometer,huge boot and many other small things. In a nutshel,the new Honda City is much more refined comparitively to the previous one.The basic things which matter alot have been improved like the engine and the exterior design.The ride of the car is also improved,thanks to the small changes in the suspension.All in all,its still a great package if you see it the value-for-money way in Pakistani market atleast.


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    Fuel Consumption:- The 2005 face-lifted Honda City i-DSI achieved an impressive 26.2km per liter of fuel consumption during a challenge in June 2007. The challenge requires the vehicle to be occupied by 4 persons (including the driver), air conditioning being switched on and a load of luggage. The whole route stretched more than 660km that consists of not only highway driving but also hill climbing. ==================================== Source:-My self mostly,wikipedia and Honda atlas.


    In Short:- In short,according to me,all this proves that Honda City has been a great car for a family to have at all times for more than a decade now.It has proven its self to be a complete car one would need at a price tag it is available for.An im one of the thousands of satisfied owners of it for the past one year. Now all we need are your comments and thoughts upon this small wonder.And also do make sure you post some pix of your own city if you have,of any model.Please feel free to express your feelings about this car.

    Maintainence schedule:-

    There have been a lot of queries regarding the maintainence shedule of Honda City. To help find members and guests find this information easily and quickly, i am writing the complete maintainence shedule which i have been following for the past 5 years for my car (180,000kms).Cost of completing the job may/may not be stated. Some of it may not be the same as that in maintainence book provided by Honda people. In that case, i ll state the reason of the difference.Here goes.

    Oils:-
    Havoline formula 10W30 (3.7ltr) and oil filter change @ 3000kms. Cost 1900rs

    Transmission oil (Manual transmission) 2 ltr @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original oil 1980rs (2ltr)
    Good quality Zic/ micking oil 800rs (2ltr)

    Transmission oil ( Automatic transmission) 2lre @ 35,000kms
    Honda CVT oil ONLY (3.2-3.4L.) 1980rs

    Brake oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if padel feels very soft n goes wayy down.
    Honda original oil

    Clutch operation oil
    Keep it topped up and change only if you it shows signs of trouble

    Parts change:-

    Brake pads change:-
    recommended @ 30,000kms
    Can use any good quality pads. (labour 400rs for 4 wheels plus pads, from 500rs to 2500rs)

    Fuel filter change @ 40,000kms (IF driven on petrol)

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms Original Honda filter is best.Good quality guard filter is good too.
    980rs for OEM, 350rs for Guard filter.

    Spark plugs @ 20,000kms Original Honda plugs (8 plugs for idsi. 4 for steermatic, new city ivtec and before-2003 model City)

    Timing belt. Not required. From 2003 onwards, all honda Citys have timing chains instead of belts.They usually last a life time.

    Tune-ups :-

    Throttle body service @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs
    Tappets adjustment / valve clearence @ 20,000kms Cost around 500rs

    Brake adjustment front not required after pads change. rear @ 30,000kms (or when front pads changed)

    Expected Life of Some parts:-

    Brake pads 35,000kms if driven aggressively ( cost already mentioned)
    Clutch plate 110,000kms if driven aggressively ( around 2000rs labour and 6000rs for clutch+pressure plate)
    Clutch bearing 150,000kms (So change with clutch plate) (800rs)
    Tuneups can be delayed to 30,000kms IF the car is run in clean enviornment like in Islamabad etc (less dust)
    Engine oil change can be delays to 5,000kms but not good in long run.

    Service Manual Honda City ids-i 2003-2008:-
    http://www.putlocker.com/file/CED54F8B8FB00360

    Tip for keeping automatic transmission (Vario and steermatic) healthy on CNG:-
    Change engine oil at 3,000kms MAX.
    Tranny oil at 30,000kms
    Tune up (throttle and valve clearence) at 20,000kms
    Do NOT ignore idleing problems. Rough idleing means jerks to transmission and thats what kills it on CNG.
    Keep air filter clean and change at 10,000kms max.

    Instrument cluster cleaning DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...ening-cleaning
    Console box opening and spray painting DIY
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/d-i...-respray-diy-1
    A/c service, the easy way
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/air...ck-c-service-1
    Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...g-kallar-kahar
    2nd Honda City GTG at kallar kahar
    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/get...ar-23-dec-12-a

    Thats all for now.
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    maybe bad fuel quality
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    @Retra new ivtec engines are mouth watering - do you honestly blv they will give em with cosmetic updates?

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    well first i filled it up with caltex the day i got it and then from total when i left for the states now when im back i got it from shell and my car has only done 115 km since i got it which is going to be a month in 3 days..
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    Why does this stupid car even have a fan club, from the front it looks like a rat face and fron the rear.........
    you will get the idea.
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    ^^ lolz sozoki lover
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    First guy in the history who said that suzuki is better then honda hehehehe..im not that fan of honda especially city but one thing for sure that suzuki is not better then honda and u have to high to say that lian is better then city ....
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    @ahmad and retro

    here's a complete specification list for honda city model 2002
    Specifications - 1.3 EXi
    Dimensions
    Length 4270 mm
    Width 1690 mm
    Height 1395 mm
    Kerb Weight 980 Kg
    Ground Clearance 170 mm
    Wheel Base 2500 mm
    Power
    Type Water-cooled 4-stroke SOHC 16 valve in-line 4-cylinder traversely mounted
    Piston Displacement 1343 cc
    Max. Power 90bhp@6500rpm
    Max. Torque 11.3 kg-m @4700rpm
    Fuel System
    PGM-FI, Multi-Point Fuel Injection
    Fuel Tank Capacity 45 Litres
    Gears
    Manual 5 forward (all syncromesh) plus reverse
    Suspension
    Front Independent strut, coil spring with stabilizer
    Rear Independent strut, coil spring trapezoid link
    Steering
    Type Power assisted Rack and pinion
    Turning Radius 4.8 Mts.
    Brakes
    Type Hydraulic vacuum assisted
    Front Ventilated Disc
    Rear Drums
    Performance
    Max.Speed 170 kmph
    Tyres
    Tyres 175/70R13
    J.D.Powers 1998 Quality & Apeal Study

    The report rates Honda City as the 'Top Car' in the mid-sized cars segment.
    Features:

    1- Bumpers (3-piece type, Body Coloured)
    2- Side Protection Mouldings
    3- Green Glass
    4 - Spoke Steering wheel
    5- Airconditioning system with Heater
    6- Adjustable Front Seat Headrest
    7- Rear seat pillows
    8- 2 Speed Wipers (plus intermittent & mist)
    9- Remote Trunk/Fuel lid opener
    10- Day/Night rear view mirror
    11- Glove Box
    12- Centre console tray
    13- Drivers Tray and Pocket
    14- Fully carpeted Floor
    15- Door Beams
    16- Trunk Light
    17- Childproof Rear Door Locks
    18- Seat Belts (Front and Rear) - 3 point ELR
    19- Power Steering
    20- Power Windows
    21- AM/FM Radio Cassette Player
    22- Door Lining with Fabric
    23- Front Seat Back Pocket (Passenger Side)
    24- Power Door Locks
    25- Rear window defroster
    26- Resin Wheel Covers
    27- Tachometer

    Honda City 1.3 EXi encompassing the latest in aerodynamics and automotive design. The lower-sloping bonnet, larger head lights and tail lights, inlets in the bumper, all enhance the City's performance. You feel relaxed, alert and in total control in the new City ergonomic cockpit. From the supportive driver's seat to the easy-to-read meters, Honda has optimised placement and design to simplify operation and foster your driving skill.
    The Honda City generates very sporty response. When you demand acceleration, its 4-cylinder Hyper 16 valve engine responds instantly. While driving on the highway, or while maneuvering in heavy traffic, the City supplies more than enough power in a smooth, steady stream. It also provides extremely sport and accurate handling, thanks to four-wheel independent suspension.


    mine one is automatic though :-)
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    I calculated the fuel consumption of my city (iDSI M/T 08) yesterday, when I refueled it for the first time. I drove 485 kms on the first tank of fuel and the refueling added 40.4 liters of petrol, which brings the fuel average to 12 kms/liter. What do you guys think is this the average I should be looking at, as I was expecting something around 13.5 kms/l.

    All the running is within Lahore city with almost 75% A/C usage, and I have installed Dunlop 185/65 R13 tires.

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    @mitthu: pretty powerful car dude i am sure it can smoke an XLI very easily

    @smah: dude the average is pretty good and i assume you have a new car so after 5,000km it might get even better.
    Hail to the King Baeeeebay!!!!

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    @retro
    yeh mate its pretty powerful car on petrol and even if its automatic its pick is like amazing.damn fast ur talking about xli last week i raced with a 2.od saloon while comming back from islamabad to kharian.and all the way my city gave the toyota guy a hard time lolz.all the way drove my city @130kmph.and atlast after 1 hour of taking over fight i won. :-P
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    dude y is my city drinking so much patrol ..and my steering is also bit hard as compared to other city ..i have 205/60/15 rims and tire may be thats why this issue is ..i was thinking o putting 215/55/15 ....or may be put back the original ones..
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    @fso, yes, rims & tires might be the reason for such a high fuel consumption, I drove my cousin's 2004 City iDSI Vario and it gave me the average of 11km/l within Lahore city and 13.5km/l on highway with 15 inches rims, but tires were 185/xx (dont exactly remember now), and mine (manual) gave 12 with last fuel tank and I am expecting to touch 13 this time.

    My suggestion would be to try original rims/tires (if you have them with you) and then see if that improves the fuel consumption.

    I have also heard that there is 100K ON going on City manual these days. Can anyone confirm this news?

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    @fso
    yeah its my wild guess that honda ppl wud restart the production of steermatic wid sum upgraded things like mp3 player etc.
    but its difficult that they introduce the 1.3Vtec engine here.bcuz according to pakistani trend,its too early.i mean not long time has been passed since the vtec 1.3 was launched in thiland.

    nd dnt panic man,my car gave me 11km/ltr when it was new without ac.i was worried to...but now its fine.after 2-3k kms...urs wud b fine too if theres no problem regarding fuel quality.
    @retro
    yeah sure sir...!!!wud try to hav a city gang in sgd on my own...
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    dude its giving me 7 something km/liter on full ac....
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    @formula1
    get ur *** outta my forum dude...find another place to dispatch ur ****...!!!

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    lolzz...u did wat i was gonna do just today i still hav the broucher of 01 city.nd was thinking to compy it all here.but thanx u did nd saved me frm havoc

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    bro u wud get nice milage when ur car crosses the 5000kms line.as i hav stated before.

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    remember,i told ya...that ur car is gonna hav economy problems nd hard steering too...that was the main reason y i was telling u not to put those rimz on it.but now its fine u hav..u sure wud see an improvment after 5k kms ....

    guying i was driving back frm lahore to sargodha day before yesterday.me nd my dad only.my dad fell asleep nd i was driving.i had a preety nice race wid an xli.it was also 06 model wid 2 ppl in it.nd the same thing,after 80-90kmph,he could not catch me...i went of accelerating till i crossed him nd as soon as i turned back into the midle lane infront of that xli,there it was...police guys standing wid speed camera.i saw 2 flashes going on(it was night time) at me nd just a couple of hundred feet away,another office stopped us nd handed me a page wid 750rs fine for overspeeding.the speed clocked was 142kmh....!!!
    guys i really did'nt knew before that m2 guys hav cameras that work in nights too now,cuz earlier,they did'nt had them.so i was overspeeding ....but wont do it ever again
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    OOhhh thats bad friend..

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    well today told my driver to put back the original rims they kinda look weird but lets see wats the average i get i really wanna keep this car in patrol if i can get a good average on org rims then i might keep them on oh man ....
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    lolz wot are friends for mate ...
    and damn i thought night driving is much more fun bcuz i usually used to travel late at night just for speeding and there was no on on duty officers with speed guns in their hands.but now am gonna have to watch out lolz.:-P
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    @all
    Wot u guys think of that city. stylish rite ...


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