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    Default this is a poll,,,,,,calling awl city liana owners

    this is a poll to evaluate lianas with cities..........but to be answered only by owners........no multiple replies............+2 for lianas having issues -2 for not having issues and same goes for the citi owners............

    awl other cars owners can share their comments .....as some people think merc and lexuses also have these manufacturing faults........


    +2 my nanis lianas radiator leaker before its first 100kms.......
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    @chinyoti
    the thing is honda has name but suzuki doesnt
    name is all that matters to people

    and now retro shuld undersatnd wat is city
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    I Own A Liana And I Would Say +2 becoz it Is A problEm For Me From The Beginning...!!!

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    no off-topic replies please!!


    this is ur last warning!!.. control ur language..
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    It has 5 seat belts city has 2 (i think correct me if I am wrong)
    city has 2 crose type and 3 waist types.


    Liana has external enviroment temperature guague ad city does not even has engine temperature guage
    city has engine temperature lights.

    Liana has insultion in the bonnet which makes it very less noisy as compared to city
    all older cities, and new UG models have insulataion aswell.

    -liana is 1328 cc DOHC where as city is 1299cc SOHC
    city idsi is 1249cc, L12A1
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    @nauxen, you may be rite k honda is a status symbol and suzuki isnt well suzuki it self is responsible for this no one else is .........margalla was a great car.........wen suzuki baleno was launched it was priced some where near .......the price of civic exi.......and it did well..........it only failed because they from the starting only introduced eli....el trims .......i.e( black bumpers 2 colors non power features etc)................
    honda is maintaining its quality because .......they arent fools and they dunt only wanna increase sales figures they want customer safisfaction........which suzuki doesnt cares about.................suzuki can compete............they launched liana japanese ........they didnt sell well so they reduced the price from 12lac to 9.5 lacs.........jis pagal ne 12 lac ki lee thee where would he go............??????????

    suzuki people are genuine ullu k phate..........ab wat can i say if u dun wanna accept the truth........even liana owners are complaing wat else do u want...........??? please tell us vll try to manage that as well........
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    @naxun: city is the asian variant of honda fit and honda jazz and have the same L13A and L15A engines, you just cant accept the fact that finally the future city model will have a ivtec 1.3 and 1.5 engines which you can never call underpowered.....

    yes if liana is a variant of swift which is at least as per your thought then bring it in please.....

    BTW: what do u expect that on 120 or 160 u do emergency braking on an non ABS car and it will stop instantly????
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    lolzzzz
    @retro
    who sayz it will stop immediatrly
    even abs wont stop instantly dude
    but atleast car should remain in line
    car cant stay in line at 160

    and wee will be waiting fer new CiTy
    i saw the shape
    shape is nice
    but didnt got chance to know abt its engine




    and @chinyoti
    they introduced baleno with nuffin but ended up with everything in even the cheapest model of baleno that was JXR
    800k kei brand new CNG fitted baleno thei
    while 2002 city (old model)
    no power windows without cng was of 850k
    dude now u even say it was of exi price
    and wen u say abt honda making friendly enviorment
    u must be joking dude
    if they cared abt their customer satisfaction then u must no be right
    dude even corolla is better
    they delayed their model cuz its steering wheel had some problem
    city mein itna bara dolnei ka problem the
    braking ka problem that
    grip ka problem that
    they even launched it kei logon nei buhat intizar kiya hai
    no u also say city has customer satisfaction
    fer ur more info last baleno in showroom was sold on 150k own

    now lets talk abt japan assemble liana
    kei woo log kahan jaein gei
    12.5lac kei thei jiss kei features mein likhta hooon

    cruise control (no japan assembled car has it)
    2 way steering adjustment
    3 way seat adjustment

    yeh 3 features kisi aur japan assembled mein dilh dou
    and yes onefin more they were 1600CC cars
    were as 925 walei mein cruise control nahin hai
    1way steering adjustment
    2 way seat adjustment
    and the seats are total crap of new liana
    they have been changed
    9lac sei nechey kei japan assembled nahin milti


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    yar koi apni modified liana's ki pics he upload kar do . . . neways i also own a 2 week old liana rxi . . its great driving it . . i also have a rola nd lancer . . i can grade its drive beta than 2d but lesser then 1.3 lancer . . . . . . cheers
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    aur han after reading the whole thread i hav come to an opinion n tha z guyzboth rides have thier own pros n cons . . but they are not much apart . . . without being biased both r nice rides . . some problems occur with every ride . . .
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    @naxun: be reasonable bro,,, u change tunes to quickly, like u bring swift into discussion and then the jap liana, remember that you are in pakistan so stick to pak assembled cars please. My colleague has a 1.6 manual Jap liana and it is world apart from the local one and is simply amazing!

    You are also ignoring my posts about the new ivtec engine which will once and for all take care of the 0-100 pickup of 1.3 city that every one brings up in posts despite knowing very well that the IDSI is not marketted for street drags and InshAllah it will come to Pak City as well but dont know when.

    I myself also had the 1.3 IDSI and now the 1.5 steermatic and I assure that it does not have any braking issues, City never had this issue and yes it depends on the tyres as well.. You are highlighting isolated incidents and blaming the whole product line. No man no brake issues otherwise it would have been highligted in many other posts like Corolla's brake problem.

    I will state the probs with the new city which are:

    1. Side pllars too thick (blind spot)
    2. IDSI engine is underpowered (not a big deal since it is clearly stated that the car is designed for economy)


    now i am sure you can think of a million reasons to dis a car but i am stating pure facts and i am sure you will not believe me anyway but there might be some resonable folks on PW on will think otherwise.

    I guess you never cared to read my posts in detail, i never said liana is a bad car it s just that pak suzuki ruin the quality control of every car they touch and they have the worst 3S of all pak auto manufacturers.
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    nauxen,,,beta( im sorry to say beta but i have too) ........for that baleno being sold out 150k ...........ya ya us showroom k malik ne 150k ki lee hoggi and said baleno 150k own wow.........woo hooo........ive got this baleno 2005........since say day one its been a head ache(no satisfaction at awl)...............aur about liana having cruise control...........thats not cruise control thats radio buttons in the steering ( korean optra has that) and if ure saying liana has id like to c it..........please............liana dosent has the steering and the seat setting ur saying( correct me if it really does) .........if it does id like to c that also....................kub dekha rae ho.............and if u read dawn...............around 3 weeks back there was a add japanese liana for sale 650k...........................mint condition..................this add came for consective 3 weeks .................then GOD noes wat happened.............aur atleast wen v bought baleno................baleno petrol 12000 own.....................baleno cng.......60000 own.....................honda city petrol.............130000-150000 own (depending on market)..........xli around 150000-200000) cultus cng.........75000-90000.................and wen was cities standard model for 850000 yh bhee batao...........and if possible please give the price list............also......................
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    and a beleno kept standing at suzuki defence for more 2 years after its produnction........ ure saying old city was more xpencive then the nw city.........coz nw cirty started at 785 or 795 (dunt noe exactly).............while....baleno jxr was...........749.petrol...........and 789 cng

    @nauxen ......bhai v arent ere to fight or offence any one were just discussing things...........n y re always saying baleno n liana being fast v arent discussing speed ........(.n if u ask me baleno over a city any tym while racing only) but noe balenos ere...........
    aur eventually jus checked dawn..........theres a japanese liana in it demand 800k
    the is lyk this
    : Suzuki Liana japanese, 1600cc, 2006 registered, black, done 23800, demand 800k, company price was 1325000. Rizawan.0333-xxxxxxx if u want the number temme.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    @retro
    dude he told me abt the people buyin liana at 12.5 lac
    i told him that was japan assembled and was 1600
    that was it and i am passionately waiting fer new city and if iwuld have v-tec engine i wuld be the frst one in pak tou buy it
    k now no more fight wid u

    and @ chinoti
    go chek ur colleagues liana again
    it has a ctuise control with all functions on it
    it has 3 way seat adjustment (all local's have 2 )


    and wen u talk abt own
    go make sm research ion market
    city never had own more then 50kkkk
    were baleno's in the showrooms were sold fer 100k own and fer ur baleno i am srry to say u might have been using local parts
    no car is good on local parts
    my baleno was perfect fer 5 years done 140k wihtout any prob

    so no more fighting cuz my paperzz will be starting soon and ig wont get more then 3gp my father wuld kill me fer sure
    and giki paperz are very tough dude
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    @nauxen.....kya hogaya hai.......bhai .........cities sold for 250k own............hosakta hai sirf ek garri itne ki biqqqi ho mgr it did..............city wen launched had its boom.........and 2005 only it had own more than 100k werna v would have gone for it we needed a car urgently and budget was only for baleno............. challo end this discussion just give +2 and -2 ...........
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    our discussion ended
    now ppl go on wiht ur discussions
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    @naxun: never wanted to have a fight with u in the first place coz it is simply a waste of time.

    Goodluck with the paperz
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    own city vario (petrol) since 1 yr, model 2k4, mileage 58ks.

    No major probelms till now though the driver side power window is a bit unpredicable............ so -2 for that

    People say the vario doesn't runs well on cng so im a bit skeptical about convering it into cng............ so +2.



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    @lotus
    u always seem to hav problems if sumone tells u his honda is going well.if one says he has driven his xli 500kms nd it going excellent u wud definaltly not hav said that.
    u need to change ur viewpoint man.if a car is problematic,its gonna creat problems ryt frm the 1st day.20k kms is too much.like my uncle's cultus stopped on the road on the next day of delivery.today my car hit 530000kms...going strong.wat wud u say abt it? y good luck? huh? i dnt think so....(N)
    @naxun
    bro performance of city is better then liana on petrol.i hav tested many times my self.nd that too...on a just 9000kms driven liana when my car was 21000kms driven.yeah on cng it felt better might b bcuz at that time my car was driven only 2000kms on cng...cant say anything abt cng but for petrol im sure.for brakes,i did'nt tested liana upto limits.but if its the base model,it does not hav abs so brakes are almost equal.i can stop my city in 3seconds frm 100kmh-0 without a skid.wid 185 tyres.
    city is not better only bcuz its honda...u gota understand it man.

    @lotus again
    bro ur reply is answering ur self,if more selling city is not better,howcome more selling toyota is best?nd i remember u hav a fourm abt crapolla that its the most selling.this is the very same thing v ppl hav said in ur fourm nd u were not agreeing,nd now ur using the same tactics on us...?? wah g wah...ballay ballay...ahahhah(Y)
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    who says?city is designed purely for comfort nd economy.if u need performance,yeah city has it,get ur self the power of vtec...the mighty steermatic.nd u wud see what performance city has.
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    @naxun
    hahahah...who says city 2002 was for 850k..?? bro i my self went wid my dad to get the delivery of our 2001(july) city frm faislabad.we bought that car on net case nd we payed then 7lac,65k,200rs exactly.nd it was the exi-s version. i mean fully loaded but manual.had power windows,power side view mirrors which even rolla ppl r not giving NOW at the price of 933k.which honda was giving 7 years back.this lets us know that rolla is atleast a decade behind honda;s cars in features nd technology.

    nd yeah,baleno in 2003 or 2004 was at 7lac,74k,rs...JXR model wid cng.but the side view mirrors were manual.ghatia general tyres too...
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    @ahmadbila....... well i think ur a lil too young for what ever u said..........so phle soocha kro fir bolla kro............and baleno n liana may be the worst cars in the world but in a drag or in any race city is no match.........the 1st and second gear pickups of suzuki are totaly awsome.......performance wise city might take down cultus efi but not a 1.3 baleno or liana ...................and id like to city stop in 3 seconds from a speed of 100km/h........without any skid........challo aap ko 5 seconds dete hain........general tyres come in city also............and baleno tyre was 175-70-13 while cities 165-80-13......(rikshaw tyres)......no wonder citys handle is softer.................im still wid city............


    kheir v arent taking abt races ere ..........just the problems uve faced or not..........
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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