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    Default Stiff Suspension Honda City

    Hello All,

    I own a HONDA city 2007 I am feeling its suspension is too hard! even a small stone on the road or a little bump or a cat eye make this car jump. I also have a cultus 2008 and I am feeling its suspension is a lot better then city.

    I also change many tires on city. dunlop, yokohama etc current tire size is 175/70/R13 .

    i have taken this to honda 3s delaer and according to him suspension is oki.

    but i am not satisfied because its not comfortable.

    I want to ask city owners, is it normal for all honda city cars or there is something wrong with this partucularly.

    Car is driven about 35K .

    one thing more i need to ask. about after 40K milage car needed to be chck with honda delaer for changing all its lubrications break pads etc. and estimae is about 15 to 20 K , is it worth to check it with honda delaer or what are the recomendations from the experts.

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    I also feel that the suspension of City 2006-2008 is not good... The shock absorbtion is not good at all. I have myself experienced that the shok absorbtion of Corolla (2002-2008) and Nissan Sunny (2005) is far better.

    Let us see what experts have to say about it
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    how much tyre pressure do u keep? over inflation also causes the car to be a bit bumpy.

    i think even the 1.8 million variant of civic has rather stiff suspension b.t.w

    and u dont need to go to 3S dealer ship for oil change and brake pad replacements. buy from open market and go to any mechanic with brains and experience
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    the suspension on my 2007 city vario is just fine. i'm running on 205/55 R15 Kumho Ecsta Supras with original Lenso alloys. the ride is nice and crisp with little noise. i suspect your suspension problem has something to do with the tyres or the air pressure like CandyMan said.

    as for the 40K checkup, please do get it done as it is very important especially because they change the transmission fluid, the brake pads and the brake fluid. apart from this they also run a diagnostics check on your car using a computer and tune your engine as well. it cost me 6K when i had it done in september. this is because my oil, oil filter were already changed sometime before the checkup and i didn't get the brake pads changed at that time due to time constraints. however i don't think it ever costs 15-20K. it should be in the range of 10-12K. this is the breakdown of the price:

    Engine Diagnostics and Tuning: Rs. 2000
    CVT Fluid : Rs. 2400 (i think cuz i dont remember the actual price :p )
    Carb cleaner: Rs. 200
    Wheel Balancing and Alignment: Rs. 300 (i had this done on my own and i don't believe its part of the checkup)
    Brake Fluid: Rs. 400 (again i don''t remember the actual price)

    apart from this the brake pads should cost around 3100 and if you get your oil filter changed as well add another 550 to the price along with whatever choice of oil you prefer to put in you car (another 1200-1500).
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    Honda3S has a list of things (with cost) that they do as part of the 40K mileage checkup/tuning. Once you have that list, you can buy things yourself from (shahid autos) gawalmandi and then go to any other good mechanic to get them replaced. You can save quite a lot in purchasing japanese parts yourself rather than using the original honda parts (which in most scenarios are almost twice as expensive) e.g. A japanese company NISIN makes brake pads for Honda that get rebranded as original honda brake pads. You can get NISIN brake pads at almost half the cost of original Honda brake pads (both of which are manufactured by the same company).

    For a second opinion regarding your suspension's condition, you can also have it checked up from DORA (near chik bazaar) in saddar.
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    stiffest is good. keeps you intact with road.

    all good drivers prefer it

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    @NeTdEaMoN: i agree with dynamicallyStatic's reply. you can get most of the parts from the market and get them installed yourself for cheaper. BUT you will have to go to Honda 3S for the computer diagnostics and tuning. Such things are better off when left to the car manufacturer itself. do you own a manual city or a vario?
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    i have recently bought city 04, m very satisfied with it,the suspensions are too soft,and i love driving it .i also have civic 05 with 17 inch rims and civic suspensions are way too stiff!!

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    Thanks all for replying.

    CandyMan
    I always keep pressure of 28

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    thanks for detailed rpely! definatly i,ll do it as soon as milage reaches to its end. Infact i have to change every thing i.e pluggs, oil, filter, breaks.
    this estimate of 15 to 20K was given to me today on the phone but he didnt tell me about the computerised tunning, may be he missed.

    and about tyres! I started changing tyres from 205/55 R15 and gradully increase the profile till 70 but to be honest suspension of city is worst
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    i agree..the suspension is hard..I am presently running my city 06 manual on Dunlop 15inch rims..and it is wayyy too bumpy. I was thinking about changing the rim size...i.e. getting 13 or 14 inch ones...but listening to you all it seems that does not solve the problem.

    what to do?...I've heard yokohamas are softer tyres..worth giving a try?

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    good advise dynamicallyStatic

    s3ns0r I have manuall city

    and ibrahim when i purchased this car it was on stock tyres then i installed 205/55/R15 and it was bumpy then i increase the profile to 70 but still no use. now I am on 70/R13 its a little better but not as soft as my cultus is.

    Yokohama and dunlop are good. both are japnese! but i think ppl prefer yokos over dunlop.


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    1. It is STRONGLY reccomended to upsize or downsize tires unless you really know what you are doing. Chaging tires has a more major impact on your car than you may think. The diameter, width, tire design all play a very crucial role in how your car drives, handles, brakes and more importantly how long your vehicle lives a nice trouble free life. My suggestion is not to change the rims unless they are of EXACTLY the same size, height and width as the Original Rims. 175-70r13 reduces the height of your honda city and has a lower diameter which causes your engine to turn at a higher rpm and increases consumption. your vehicle (honda city) is not optimized to use 175/70r13.

    If you want the best possible ride out of ur HOnda. Try the original 165/80 r13 tires. you can also try 185/70 r 13 but these are the two ONLY sizes that you should use and OTHER NO circumstances use the large tires being reccomended or being used by the others who have replied to you.

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    @ati41: the original tyres are well known for having the most shittiest grip ever. do you even know what you're recommending to the original poster? the city is designed to run on 13,14,15 inch wheels with ease WITHOUT any problems. the only reason honda uses these lower spec wheels and tyres is because the manual idsi is a budget sedan. the steermatic which was much more expensive came armed with a set of 15" alloys running on bridgestone potenzas which were 185/55 R15's and it handled far better than a stock idsi. please don't go posting about stuff you don't know about :|
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    @ibrahim: yokos are harder, dunlops are softer. i've used both the YOKO ES-100 and the dunlop SP-SPORT LM702 on my city and i felt the the dunlops resulted in a much more quieter and much less bumpier ride. though my current kumhos are excellent and i would rate em above the dunlops (this is my personal preference though )
    also are you running on steel rims or are you using lightweight alloys?

    @netdeamon: these were the things Honda 3S checked when i went for the 40K:

    Oil, Oil Filter, Air Filter, spark plugs, then the opened the engine cover and did something (not sure what but they adjusted something), after that was the computerised tuning, then came the brake pads, brake fluid, handbrake tightening and in the end they changed my CVT fluid (in your case it's gonna be the clutch fluid).
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    s3ns0r
    Thnak you bro for valuable information.

    Much appriciated.
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    @sensor
    am usin alloys....
    gonna shift to 13" steel rims soon..
    how much would a set of good 185/70 R13 tyres cost?

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    @netdeamon: you're welcome :-)
    @ibrahim: i guess you can get them for around 12K. by the way why are you downsizing the rims?
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    Try 195/65 R14 and you will feel the difference.
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    if you want a cheap fix, fill 28psi in all 4 tyres

    if you want an expensive solution, buy Michellin Energy E3A tyres. 195/65R14 is what I have and my ride is a million times better compared to the Dunlops that I previously had.
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    the reason for downsizing is because the ride is really bumpy...my front suspension has already started makin a weird noise wen i go on bumps....
    another reason for downsizing is because the right rear tyre comes in contact wid body wen i go through bumps and cars filled wid 5 ppl and lugguage in the trunk...as i take this car to my village...
    so the best option i guess is to get back to the original rims..
    what do you guys suggest?

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