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    Default Stiff Suspension Honda City

    Hello All,

    I own a HONDA city 2007 I am feeling its suspension is too hard! even a small stone on the road or a little bump or a cat eye make this car jump. I also have a cultus 2008 and I am feeling its suspension is a lot better then city.

    I also change many tires on city. dunlop, yokohama etc current tire size is 175/70/R13 .

    i have taken this to honda 3s delaer and according to him suspension is oki.

    but i am not satisfied because its not comfortable.

    I want to ask city owners, is it normal for all honda city cars or there is something wrong with this partucularly.

    Car is driven about 35K .

    one thing more i need to ask. about after 40K milage car needed to be chck with honda delaer for changing all its lubrications break pads etc. and estimae is about 15 to 20 K , is it worth to check it with honda delaer or what are the recomendations from the experts.

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    @netdeanmon: do let us know how the 40K checkup goes :-)
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    There shouldn't be any difference between the pre and post face lift city...Hence as such the 195/60/15 should not touch towards the inside..any ways another friend of mine who has a Jan 2005 city also has 195/60/15 (yokohama es100) installed and no such problems. My advice would be get 185/65/14 installed, they're not as crappy as the stock rim size but not as good as 15's either...Settling in between lol
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    ^^195/60/r15 lies outside the recommended margin of error for speedometer accuracy.
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    ^^ which is why the recommended max tyre specs for the city are 195/55 R15 :-)
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    I again suggest to all the dear readers and the original poster that as a rule, one must not upsize or downsize tires unless and until the diameter of the tire remains the same. Upsizing or downsizing increases the stress on the drive train ( madeup of engine, transmission, cvjoint and other components) stays within the specifications originally intended by the engineers. Maximum allowable upsize is 2-3% provided the tire diameter remains the same.

    If u intend to keep ur car for a while, I strongly reccomend not to upsize blindly and to ensure that upsize does not exceed more then 2-3% of the original tire size.. Here are some equvalent choices

    original size allowable upszie
    155-80r 13 175-70 r 13
    165-80 r13 185-70 r 13
    175-70 r 13 185/65-r14


    People running 14, 15, 16 inch tires on cars orginally designed to carry 14 or 13 inchers would eventually have to bear expensive bills for suspension and tranmission components as well as would have to bear more fuel bills and live with inevitable body shudders that body would eventually develop due to higher levels of stress transmitted by the tires.

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    @ati41: do you own a honda city? have you bothered reading the manual that came with it? if you did you would find that the car is DESIGNED to run on 13, 14 AND 15 inch tyres keeping in mind that the tyre size for 15" rims should be 195/55 R15. i do agree that the car should not be run 16" rims but please don't go telling people that the car can't be run on 15" tyres. i run my November 2006 Honda City Vario on 205/55 R15 tyres and have been doing so for the past 2 years and i get an average of around 14-15 km/litre of petrol and my car is in mint condition including the drivetrain. please avoid making such posts without properly doing some research first.
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    Last day i gone through with 40 K checkup it costs me Rs. 14000 they have check/changed following things.

    1- Engine Oil/filter
    2- Gear Oil
    3- Break Oil
    4- SPark plugs
    5- break pads
    6- Tappet throttle

    Thats it, I ask them about the computerized checkup but they said! we only do computerized check up if car is eating oil a lot. they spent 2 and half hours.

    after the check up i feel my car is little more smoother and sound is also changed.

    I believe if i gone through with all this check up from my local mistary it would not be more then 7/8 K

    dammn honda classic charge me Rs. 3k as mazdoori.
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    @netdaemon: WTF!!! the computer checkup is done to adjust the electronic throttle of the car after adjusting the tappet and not if the car is eating oil. something is seriously wrong those honda technicians. this is what it cost me when i got my car checked:

    CVT Fluid: 2040
    Brake Fluid: 570
    Carb cleaner: 300
    40K Checkup Charges: 2000

    Total: 4910

    i went to honda yesterday because one of my headlights kept fogging up. while getting that fixed i also asked for the price of the brake pads which the guys at honda told me will cost 3100. before my 40K checkup (2 weeks before the check) i got my oil and air filter changed and the oil filter cost 535 while the air filter cost 610. of course if you buy these from the market and not from honda you can save roughly around 40%. can you post the things they charged you for in the invoice? that way we can see if they overcharged you or not.
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    bro,

    I never believe to chk my car from the company! whenever i went to company the very next day i took my car to my mechanic to re-chk. in the company they hired young boys infect very young boys and they do the work like if they are hypnotized but for maintaining the book I go there.

    they over charged too much, never take any thing seriously, no interest in work or in the benefit of customer, I always disappointed to go to company. my local mechanic is alottttt better then them any now below is the price list and its more then 40% then the open market.

    1- Oil fiter Rs. 610 (In market I believe it will be of 200 (Guard))

    2- Air filter Rs. 890 (In market 530)
    3- Spark plugs Rs. 190x8= 1520 (market 130x8=1040)
    4- F. Disk Pads Rs. 3640 (dont know market rates)
    5- Engine Oil Rs. 1290
    6- Break Oil 1140
    7- MTF (Manual transmission fluid) Rs. 1120

    8- Labour Rs. 3000 (& my mechnic will charge me not more then Rs. 600 for doing all these work.)

    NO match with local mech Vs Honda Techs in Experience+price
    no match at all. This was my last check up from them! will never go there again, 40 K is enough.
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    ^^ at 40k service interval fuel filter is also to be changed ....they didnt chage urs ???
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    i mostly run my car on CNG so fuel filter doesnt need to be change
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    @netdaemon: yeah i know about those prices (though i didn't know they had raised the prices of the air filter as well). i've been using those 4-tip iridium bosch spark plugs and i THINK those cost me around 1800 (or was it 1100, i'm not sure :p) but they've been working great for the past 30K. the brake pads they use come from NISSIN Corp. Japan. You can get the same ones in the market for around 1700. what i don't get however is why they charged you 1140 for the brake fluid. it cost me 570. i agree with you on the matter about going to honda 3s. i do it for the same reason you do. there are 2 things i've learned from the experience:

    1) Either buy your own stuff and get it installed from Honda 3S (best option since you save tons of money and you get the service book stamped)
    2) If you're buying everything from Honda, stand on their heads while they're working on your car so that they don't add anything unwanted to your bill (sometimes they simply say your car needs this and this and this whereas in reality it does not. You've got to know what you're there for and not let them bully you into adding stuff thats not necessary). The only thing that i personally believe is best worth being bought from Honda is the transmission fluid. everything else, buy from elsewhere and have honda install it.
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    very nice advise s3ns0r.
    If i go again i,ll do the same.
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