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    Default Why no Honda Civic R16 here??

    was just wondering why Honda Civic isn't available with the R16 engine here. Hondas are currently competing in 1.3 & 1.8 liter category only, they evacuated the 1.5l & 1.6l segment ever since the 1.5 exi & 1.6 vti went out of production. so there is a huge gap which they can cover by offering the R16 civic as an 'option' for the buyers.. also since Corolla Se saloon has gone out of production so even toyotas are not there in the 1.6l category. If Honda launches the Civic with 1.6 R16 engine priced between current City & Civic 1.8, then im sure its gonna attract a lot of buyers and will be an instant hit.. wonder why Honda isn't doing this..

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    But now they are made locally and have a tough competition.
    They want to go higher and higher.
    And to make a separate engine they will need more working space which is not possible at this time
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    from the number of type r stickers on mehrans and altos, the best segment for them seems to be the 800-1000 cc category.. As for1.5, well aren't these just numbers nowbdays with the new technologies ? I mean for instance, 1.8 vtec means the economy of a 1.5 below 3k rpm and the power of a 2.0 above 3k rpm..why introduce another vehicle?
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    i think when they introduced this civic 1.8 in 2006, their idea was to move civic to 1800cc category and let the city compete in 1.3 & 1.5 thats y they brought in the steermatic. but unfortunately steermatic turned out to be a major flop for honda but i think bringing 1.6 civic would be a good move.

    bango bro the tax structure also makes a lot of difference. 1.8 might be as fuel economical as 1.5 but what about taxes? over here a small engine like 2.0 also makes u eligible to pay a "luxury tax"
    if tc=p then hc=m where tc is equal to toyota corolla and p is equal to paindu, and hc is equal to honda civic and m is equal to moron

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    on my trip to Singapore all i saw were the 2.0 or the typeR versions, Singapores lyk a car heaven...

    about competion of the 1.6 wid GLi if costs are less if wud rip GLi apart. jst like the EXI it was only a fraction more priced then Gli nd had every thing a Vti does except for the rims nd a 1.6L engine. over ere they can also reduce some options too.

    secondly dunnoe abt Civic but they shud bring the 2.0L accord to reduce duties nd cut prices.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    yes it would rip the gli apart. the 1.6 ivtec will be the bread earner for honda pk
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    File a request to Honda Atlas Pakistan.
    It is impossible to please everybody.

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    well , in late 2006,there were rumors that honda guys r launching a 1.6l civic soon... but they never did...
    nd yes i think they shud launch it, decrease the price of that 1.6l civic to 14.5 lakh new, nd then they ll get some real attention frm customers...
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    well , in late 2006,there were rumors that honda guys r launching a 1.6l civic soon... but they never did...
    nd yes i think they shud launch it, decrease the price of that 1.6l civic to 14.5 lakh new, nd then they ll get some real attention frm customers...
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    ^ Ya heard that to, nd toyota applied to the same strategy, launching the altis first nd then the Xli Gli trims..
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    if u compare the sales stats, corolla always have the edge due to the presence of 1.3 xli/gli and the diesel variants.. but if u compare the 1.6 segment, civic always been ahead... and i think the 1.6 vti always was a better choice than the se saloon itself. moreover the 1.6l segment was primarily a honda dominated segment since 1996-2006, dont understand why honda pulled out the 1.6l from its lineup.. its like taking the match winner out of your team, the sales of civic have been greatly reduced ever since the 1.5 & 1.6 are out of production.. for example: 12000+ in year 2004/05 & 2005/06 and then just around 5000 with only the 1.8l civic offered (PAMA - Pakistan Automotive Manufacturers Association).. i strongly believe that the 1.6l civic should be re-introduced as it was a known honda civic territory!
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    well i gues riting it to Honda is no harm.
    but ur rite abt the Honda being dominant in the 1.6 category.
    as for now in my family only v have like 7 corolas 2 more booked (all Glis) nd only one Civic nd 1 altis.

    currently GLi is the only affordable nd a complete car. (1.3 economical & power pack)

    Civic or any 1.8 is totaly out of the range considering the 80k registration.

    y was 1.6l Honda made obselete is coz toyota finished it nd wnt to 1.8l category.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    no body likes Liana, City only has the edge being the only 1.3L auto tranny, every body considers buying a Corolla at the end of the day as its a bigger car. There shud b a honda in that category,

    Altho Honda tried to make City compete the (Xli, Gli) and was badly failed
    and so the honda people under priced the car imediatly after the lauch.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    Agreed with chinyoti..!!

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    we don't need a 1.6 civic.
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    ^ mayb u dont i do i need a more low priced civic.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    Honda LX should be here before everything - But it isnt...market is here ...Har 2 foot road chor ker to ek CNG Pump hay ..and our Folks are crazy for economical cars!! But I guess they term it as Fools Gold!!
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    ^CNG crisis is already on the rise so more folks will becoming petrol friendly in near future say welcome
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    @illdude
    there are always different engine options offered by every manufacturer all around the world. even here civic was available with 1.5 & 1.6, liana is available with 1.3 & 1.6, same goes for baleno, even city was available with 1.3 & 1.5 (Neo & Steermatic), Corolla with 1.3, 1.6/1.8 & 2.0 diesels) so there is no harm in offering 2 engine configurations for this 8th gen civic. it will only attract more buyers & like chinyoti said we need a more affordable civic
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