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    Default Civic 95 - Engine overhaul or replacement of engine

    Dear experts

    kindly advice.... i have civic 95, last week gaskit replaced due to heatup problem.. now i m facing the same problem again...mechanic adviced me to overhaul engine... one of my friend suggested to replace engine with 2003 or 2004 civic engine which is efi...

    kindly suggest me the best option and if i go for 2003-4 engine then any alteration required...? i will appreciate if some one advice me for the sincere and the best mechanic as well..

    waiting for ur suggestions.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by superemo View Post
    Dear experts

    kindly advice.... i have civic 95, last week gaskit replaced due to heatup problem.. now i m facing the same problem again...mechanic adviced me to overhaul engine... one of my friend suggested to replace engine with 2003 or 2004 civic engine which is efi...

    kindly suggest me the best option and if i go for 2003-4 engine then any alteration required...? i will appreciate if some one advice me for the sincere and the best mechanic as well..

    waiting for ur suggestions.....

    Regards
    Sajid
    did your mechanic bleed the air out of the system (EG civics need to be lifted on a jack from the front and the air is slowly bled out of the head) - if you dont the engine will overheat badly
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    1. what was the condition of the motor before the heat issue? any smoke out the tail pipe, mileage power issues?
    2. When the engine overheated and the engine was opened for head gasket replacement, did your mechanic tell you about the condition of the engine.

    It is a pity how one goes through the hassle on changing headgasket and for it to fail again with the same symptoms again. Means that the problem was not fixed, just money was spent somewhere else.

    I am not sure if i would rely on this mechanic to touch anything else.

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    Default Finally I have replaced the engine...

    Once again I Thank you all pakwheelers for ur suggestions,
    day before yesterday.. I visited shershah (Karachi old engine and parts market) and as per guidance of my mechanic and expert from the market, there were many d15 model but ifinalized an engine.. (dont knw the exact model no... engine no. start with ZC series...cost Rs.40,000/- do any one know the exact model no...???tapid cover is black Honda is wirtten with silver) but its in awsome condition...almost new...hardly 6 months used with two carburetor...no modifaction needed... i just change the carbuter, manifold... it took 5 hours to install and believe me engine started within seconds...Mahsallah... sound is like a new engine... it runs smoothly...... and i m satisfied with the performance....

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    Good to hear that u hav got a new engine....just one question y didn't u go for EFI engine that would hav been a little more expensive but believe me thats fun driving and also had good performance....Still best of luck with ur new engine...HAPPY DRIVING.
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    Default Wonder_guy....

    hi
    yaar..my mechanic was reluctant for efi engine... he told me a lot of modifaction needed... thats why i change my mind....anyways... do u know the exact model no.. as i describe the details....

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    @superemo
    u shud post the pic of ENGINE so that we may know wat is it in reall??? i never heard a honda engine with ZC SERIES
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    if u wanted to keep carby engine u just could have overhauled the curruent engine
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    Quote Originally Posted by superemo View Post
    hi
    yaar..my mechanic was reluctant for efi engine... he told me a lot of modifaction needed... thats why i change my mind....anyways... do u know the exact model no.. as i describe the details....

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    Not much alteration required infact thats a Bolt on swap just wiring with ECu and in tank guel pump was required.
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    Hi Supremo,

    Best of luck for the engine.

    Honda offered this engine in both single and dual overhead cam designs, as well as fuel injected and carbureted versions of these. So your one is a carb system engine, can you please tell if it's SOHC or DOHC?

    The blacktop ZC engine was offered by honda in civic/Integra and CRX in late 80's and early 90's.

    The ZC engine offered in late 80's integra has ZC stamped on the block and its distinguishable from the one in CRX ZC of the same year by the valve cover bolts. The valve cover bolts are closer in towards the spark plug wires like the one in USDM 86-89 integra.

    There are not complications in efi engies but actually these mechanics are reluctant to efi engines as most of them dont know any thing about it. I already explained to you what u need for an EFI VTEC engine. Any ways this is also a good option rather then the overhauling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by superemo View Post
    Once again I Thank you all pakwheelers for ur suggestions,
    day before yesterday.. I visited shershah (Karachi old engine and parts market) and as per guidance of my mechanic and expert from the market, there were many d15 model but ifinalized an engine.. (dont knw the exact model no... engine no. start with ZC series...cost Rs.40,000/- do any one know the exact model no...???tapid cover is black Honda is wirtten with silver) but its in awsome condition...almost new...hardly 6 months used with two carburetor...no modifaction needed... i just change the carbuter, manifold... it took 5 hours to install and believe me engine started within seconds...Mahsallah... sound is like a new engine... it runs smoothly...... and i m satisfied with the performance....

    Regards
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    congrats for the swap... though u should have gone for d15b vtec

    regarding ZC series... its like old cousins of d-series engines. Used to come in different variants of 1.5L & 1.6L both in SOHC and DOHC in CRX (85-93), Integra (86-93) and JDM Civic Si (86-91)

    one you are talking about must be 1.6L Dual Carb SOHC Engine producing 105hp... post pics so we can check exact variant

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    Quote Originally Posted by superemo View Post
    hi
    yaar..my mechanic was reluctant for efi engine... he told me a lot of modifaction needed... thats why i change my mind....anyways... do u know the exact model no.. as i describe the details....

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    bro, no detailed modification was required!!! as told earlier d15b vtec is a bolt-on swap in 95...

    and how much your mechanic has charged you for engine swap as labor cost...?

    have u asked him about the availability of parts of ZC as this is old series!

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    Default Pics of my new engines....

    hi
    guys, i m posting here some pics of engine.....

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    ZC (similar to D16Y4, D16A8, D16Z6, D16A1, D16A3, D16A6, D16A9 and D16Z5 engines)


    A few D-series variants are labelled (Japanese: Honda ZC engine) (usually JDM), but they are not truly a different series.
    There are both SOHC and DOHC ZC engines.
    The non-VTEC SOHC ZC is similar to the D16A6 ('91–'96) and D16Y4 ('96–2000) engine, but with more aggressive cam timing.
    The SOHC VTEC ZC is similar to the D16Z6 ('91–'96).
    The DOHC ZC is similar to the D16A1, D16A3, D16A8, D16A9 and D16Z5 engines.

    SOHC ZC VTEC
    VTEC
    Found in
    1991–1993 Honda Civic Ferio EJ3 (JDM)
    1992–1995 Honda Civic EJ1 (JDM)
    1992–1995 Honda Domani MA4 (JDM)
    Displacement : 1,590 cc (97 cu in)
    Bore and Stroke : 75 mm × 90 mm (3.0 in × 3.5 in)
    Rod Length : 137MM
    Rod/Stroke : 1.52
    Compression : 9.2:1
    Power : 128 hp (95.6 kW, 130 ps) at 6,600 rpm
    Torque : 107 ft·lb (14.8 kg/m, 145 Nm) at 5,200 rpm
    Redline : 7,200 rpm
    Fuel Cut : 7,300 rpm
    VTEC Switchover : 5,500 rpm
    Fuel Control : OBD-1 MPFI
    ECU Code : P70 (Domani), P91 (Civic Coupé), P29

    DOHC ZC
    Non-VTEC
    Found in (JDM)
    1984–1987 Honda Ballade CRX AS
    1984–1987 Honda Civic AT
    1985–1987 Honda Integra AV/DA1 (Some model equipped with Single Carburetor)
    1986–1991 Honda CRX EF7
    1992–1995 Honda Civic EH1
    Displacement : 1,590 cc
    Bore and Stroke : 75 mm X 90 mm
    1984–1987 Compression : 9.3:1 1988–1989 Compression : 9.5: 1
    Single Carburetor : 99 hp (74 kW, 100 ps) at 6,800 rpm; Torque : 92 ft·lbf (12.8 kg/m, 126 Nm) at 5,500 rpm
    1984–1987 Power : 113 hp (84.3 kW, 115 ps) at 6,250 rpm; Torque : 99 ft·lbf (13.7 kg/m, 134 Nm) at 5,500 rpm
    1988–1989 Power : 118 hp (88.0 kW, 120 ps) at 6,500 rpm; Torque : 103 ft·lbf (14.0 kg/m, 137 Nm) at 5,500 rpm
    1988–1991 Power : 130 hp (96.9 kW, 132 ps) at 6,800 rpm; Torque : 106 ft·lbf (14.7 kg/m, 144 Nm) at 5,700 rpm
    Valvetrain : DOHC
    Piston Code 1986-'87 : PG6
    Piston Code 1988-'89 : PM7
    Fuel Control : OBD-0 MPFI

    Euro Mk1 ('85-'87) 1.6 CRX's are fitted with an engine designated "ZC1" which is a higher spec 125 hp (96.9 kW, 132 ps) version of the D16A1. Which were later to be switched out with the D16A8 or B16A depending on which model.
    1st Gen ZC Identified by: External coil, small distributor, dual butterfly TB, cam cover bolts on top, brown/gold cam cover. Large cam pulleys. +3cc PG6B pistons, non-pent roof combustion chamber. As a ZC it appeared in JDM AV Integra Si and JDM E-AT Civic/CR-X Si. Commonly produced at the time but now over 20 years old and getting harder to find. D-series version D16A1 '86-'87
    2nd Gen ZC (rarest) Identified by: Internal coil, large distributor, single butterfly TB mounted on slight angle forward, bolts on top of cam cover, black cam cover, large cam pulleys. +7cc PM7 pistons, 43 cc Pent roof combustion chamber. As a ZC appeared in JDM facelift AV bodied Integra Si did not appear in Civic or CR-X, rarest ZC only produced for less than one year. D-series version D16A1 '88-'89 (sometimes +7cc P29 pistons)
    3rd Gen ZC Identified by: Internal coil, large distributor, single butterfly TB. Black cam cover. Cam cover bolts on the sides. Small cam pulleys. Inlet Manifold stamped PM7. +7cc PM7 pistons, 43 cc Pent roof combustion chamber. As a ZC appeared in JDM EF3 civic and EF7 CR-X, did not appear in an Integra body. Most commonly produced ZC, manufactured in Japan from end of '87 through to early '91 D-series version D16A8/9 (Euro Civic Si) (sometimes +7cc P29 pistons)
    4th Gen ZC Identified by: Internal coil. OBD1 EFi system (grey plug). No cam angle sensor on exhaust cam, now located in distributor. Rubber plug where cam angle sensor would mount. Black cam cover. No PGM-EFi plate on the inlet manifold, replaced with three ribs instead. P29 stamped on inlet manifold. MAP sensor on TB. +7cc PM7 pistons, pent roof combustion chamber. As a ZC only appeared in EG5 Civic bodies, no Integra or CRX received this engine. Reasonably common produced from '92 to '94. (20th Anniversary edition & Japanese car of the year) D-series version D16A8/9 (Euro & Australia Civic Si) (sometimes +7cc P29 pistons)
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