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    the 2006 generation Honda split the model into two different platforms, one primarily for the home market and North America and the other designed for the European market using a simpler rear suspension from the Honda Fit and more aggressive styling. As of 2006, a total of 16.5 million Civics had been sold worldwide, with 7.3 million of them in the United States.[5] Although the North American and the home market model differ externally, they are mechanically identical. The European model is available as a three and five-door hatchback while the Japanese/North American model is available as either sedan or coupe. Both Si and Type-R trim levels continue although the Japanese and European Type-R while sharing the same size engine are mechanically different. In the US an improved version of the Si tuned by Honda tuner Mugen is offered featuring cosmetic alterations and changes to the suspension and exhaust system. The Acura version of the Civic not only received the design change, but also saw a new nameplate, changing from the Acura EL to the Acura CSX. In Japan starting March 2006, the Honda dealership sales channels called Honda Primo, Verno, and Clio were disbanded, and combined into one retail dealership called Honda Cars.

    Online workshop Manual:

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    Maintenance schedule:

    Fluids:

    Engine oil: 3.7-4 liters @5,000kms
    Havoline formula 10W30
    Havoline synthetic 5w30
    Genuine Honda (Total Repack) 5w30Transmission oilManual transmission) 1.4 L Fluid Change, 1.6 L at Overhaul @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original MTF approx 1000Rs /liter

    (Automatic transmission) 2.4 L at change, 5.9 L at overhaul @ 40,000kms
    Honda original ATF approx 1000Rs /literBrake oil: 0.9 litre after 2 years
    Honda Brake fluid. approx 1000Rs /liter

    Hydraulic Clutch oil:
    Honda Brake fluid.

    Power steering oil: 1 litre @ 40,000kms
    Honda genuine PSF. approx 1000Rs /liter

    Coolant: Manual:5.2 liter Auto:5.5 liter @1,50,000kms or 4 years
    Honda type 2 coolant
    Caltex coolant.

    Parts change:

    Brake pads change:
    recommended @ 40,000kms
    Genuine Honda pads or Original Nissin pads.

    Fuel filter change @ 80,000kms

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms
    Use Honda filter. If any other then change earlier.

    Spark plugs @ 80,000-1,00,000kms
    NGK Laser Iridiums. IZFR6K11

    Timing belt: Not required. Civic 8th gen has timing chain instead of belt which usually last a life time.

    Tune-up @20,000 kms.
    Things done:
    Throttle plate cleaned, valves adjusted, plugs cleaned/replaced and idle adjusted using HDS.

    Tyres:

    Best All rounder tires:

    Yokohama dB Decible
    Michillin Energy

    Extreme traction/grip:

    Falken ZieX 912
    Yokohama C Drive
    Comfort:Yokohama C Drive
    Dunlop Eco

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabeel_Ali View Post
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    I know it has been done many times before. But kindly do a comparison between 8th & 9th gen civic?
    Which one do you prefer and why?

    Thanks

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    So basically you asking for a comparison between apples and oranges.

    I would start by saying that With the 9th gen Honda wanted to appeal to a much larger customer base solely by jacking up the ride height. 8th gen. however was built from ground up for ultimate driving pleasure and not to tick right all the boxes that is why it may fall behind in some areas but in the ones that matters to us gearheads the most, like driving feel/ pleasure it succeeds with flying colours.

    Now coming back to 9th gen. In order to compensate for the increased ride height honda atlas had to stiffen the springs so that the car somewhat stays stable at higher speeds, which is fine on the smooth motorways of punjab and/or some few smoothly paved roads of karachi but otherwise its a mess really. 8th generation in contrast has completely different approach to this. It has a naturally lower stance with softer springs all round hence it doesn't loose its composure and does not rattle as much as 9th gen while going over pot holes and similar road surfaces.

    Now the interior bit. I must the layout/design of the 9th gen is impressive especially at night when the the instrument cluster glow nice and clear with all the other lights being in the shadow. Everything is in the reach of both the front occupants and its a nice place to be in at night especially. The quality however is not as good as that of the previous model years but i guess that is becoming a norm in our society where people happily accept what they are offered.

    So yeah to sum it up, 8th gen is the best series that honda has built after the 6th gen. The current 9th gen could have been hugely better if it wasn't for that ridiculously high road clearance.
    VTEC did not kicked in ooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabeel_Ali View Post
    Well you know my answer.
    Please do it

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    Well, both have their Pros and Cons so I am gonna put down main things to consider and do a direct comparison.
    Pros for 8th Gen: It has an overall better driving pleasure, it hugs the road better, corners much better, it's agile and sharp specially at turns, it is quite confident in driving under rash conditions compared to 9th.
    Pros for 9th Gen: It has better ride comfort, interior is better, fuel consumption is better, gadgets are better, headlight illumination is better, easier and convenient to drive in daily use, the braking system has a better force and response (please do keep in minding braking force and grip are two different things)

    Now the driving difference mainly comes down to the way it feels, just the feeling of your hands on the steering and movement of the car, I have taken 8th Gen till 221 kmph on stock 195/65-15 tyre size and I didn't feel scared. Whereas this is exactly where the 9th Gen lacks. On 195/65-15 Yokos despite all balancing and everything the car feels bouncy and in the air/afloat. And at 140 it gave the feeling which 8th does at 190. Then I switched to 205/60-15 Yokos and the car got much better, less bouncy and was okay till 170, but beyond that it's too scary in the 9th but never on the 8th.

    In a nutshell: forgetting the cruise control on motorway, I would simply like to take 8th Gen for the trip instead of 9th. Taking turns on Murree and Nathiagali roads 8th is much better. For driving a bit in the mood I wouldn't want 9th. For everyday use and peaceful driving. I would simply want the 9th Gen. The 9th could have been as good for fun as well in driving if it wasn't so high.

    Disclaimer: please don't think these ordinary family cars are meant for over speeding. Sometimes you are feeling stupid, try not to go into that state of mind. Drive safe

    BUT: Overall preference, 8th Gen. It's easier to let a 9th Gen go but not 8th


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    Quote Originally Posted by 309 View Post
    So basically you asking for a comparison between apples and oranges.

    I would start by saying that With the 9th gen Honda wanted to appeal to a much larger customer base solely by jacking up the ride height. 8th gen. however was built from ground up for ultimate driving pleasure and not to tick right all the boxes that is why it may fall behind in some areas but in the ones that matters to us gearheads the most, like driving feel/ pleasure it succeeds with flying colours.

    Now coming back to 9th gen. In order to compensate for the increased ride height honda atlas had to stiffen the springs so that the car somewhat stays stable at higher speeds, which is fine on the smooth motorways of punjab and/or some few smoothly paved roads of karachi but otherwise its a mess really. 8th generation in contrast has completely different approach to this. It has a naturally lower stance with softer springs all round hence it doesn't loose its composure and does not rattle as much as 9th gen while going over pot holes and similar road surfaces.

    Now the interior bit. I must the layout/design of the 9th gen is impressive especially at night when the the instrument cluster glow nice and clear with all the other lights being in the shadow. Everything is in the reach of both the front occupants and its a nice place to be in at night especially. The quality however is not as good as that of the previous model years but i guess that is becoming a norm in our society where people happily accept what they are offered.

    So yeah to sum it up, 8th gen is the best series that honda has built after the 6th gen. The current 9th gen could have been hugely better if it wasn't for that ridiculously high road clearance.
    Awesome...
    Damn, you had posted your short review while I was independently writing mine and I just read it. Basically with a minor variation we both have commented almost the same things.... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻


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    Quote Originally Posted by 309 View Post
    So basically you asking for a comparison between apples and oranges.

    I would start by saying that With the 9th gen Honda wanted to appeal to a much larger customer base solely by jacking up the ride height. 8th gen. however was built from ground up for ultimate driving pleasure and not to tick right all the boxes that is why it may fall behind in some areas but in the ones that matters to us gearheads the most, like driving feel/ pleasure it succeeds with flying colours.

    Now coming back to 9th gen. In order to compensate for the increased ride height honda atlas had to stiffen the springs so that the car somewhat stays stable at higher speeds, which is fine on the smooth motorways of punjab and/or some few smoothly paved roads of karachi but otherwise its a mess really. 8th generation in contrast has completely different approach to this. It has a naturally lower stance with softer springs all round hence it doesn't loose its composure and does not rattle as much as 9th gen while going over pot holes and similar road surfaces.

    Now the interior bit. I must the layout/design of the 9th gen is impressive especially at night when the the instrument cluster glow nice and clear with all the other lights being in the shadow. Everything is in the reach of both the front occupants and its a nice place to be in at night especially. The quality however is not as good as that of the previous model years but i guess that is becoming a norm in our society where people happily accept what they are offered.

    So yeah to sum it up, 8th gen is the best series that honda has built after the 6th gen. The current 9th gen could have been hugely better if it wasn't for that ridiculously high road clearance.
    After hearing so much positive stuff about reborn...I sometimes wish I had bought it. I directly came from 7th to 9th gen.

    And you are first one who have said that reborn has a bit softer springs as compared to 9th gen. Many people consider reborn harsher then 9th gen...I used to think the same due to word of mouth. But as you own both, your approach matters the most now. Well yes after driving 9th gen indeed it is very stiff ... only branded tyres make this ride comfortable.

    And yes after all this discussion I have to say this that 9th gen was designed for Pakistani roads rather then the driver itself.

    Yes interms of interior...no Pakistani car yet comes close to 9th gen...it is beautiful yet functional ... and there are hardly any blind spots.

    Kabhi mera mood buna tu definitely I will buy reborn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
    Awesome...
    Damn, you had posted your short review while I was independently writing mine and I just read it. Basically with a minor variation we both have commented almost the same things.... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻


    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=272964
    Hehe just finished reading yours and yes both of us think along the same lines.
    VTEC did not kicked in ooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
    Well, both have their Pros and Cons so I am gonna put down main things to consider and do a direct comparison.
    Pros for 8th Gen: It has an overall better driving pleasure, it hugs the road better, corners much better, it's agile and sharp specially at turns, it is quite confident in driving under rash conditions compared to 9th.
    Pros for 9th Gen: It has better ride comfort, interior is better, fuel consumption is better, gadgets are better, headlight illumination is better, easier and convenient to drive in daily use, the braking system has a better force and response (please do keep in minding braking force and grip are two different things)

    Now the driving difference mainly comes down to the way it feels, just the feeling of your hands on the steering and movement of the car, I have taken 8th Gen till 221 kmph on stock 195/65-15 tyre size and I didn't feel scared. Whereas this is exactly where the 9th Gen lacks. On 195/65-15 Yokos despite all balancing and everything the car feels bouncy and in the air/afloat. And at 140 it gave the feeling which 8th does at 190. Then I switched to 205/60-15 Yokos and the car got much better, less bouncy and was okay till 170, but beyond that it's too scary in the 9th but never on the 8th.

    In a nutshell: forgetting the cruise control on motorway, I would simply like to take 8th Gen for the trip instead of 9th. Taking turns on Murree and Nathiagali roads 8th is much better. For driving a bit in the mood I wouldn't want 9th. For everyday use and peaceful driving. I would simply want the 9th Gen. The 9th could have been as good for fun as well in driving if it wasn't so high.

    Disclaimer: please don't think these ordinary family cars are meant for over speeding. Sometimes you are feeling stupid, try not to go into that state of mind. Drive safe

    BUT: Overall preference, 8th Gen. It's easier to let a 9th Gen go but not 8th


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    Very well written comparison Ali bhai. Reborn ko dekhne se hi lagta hai k it is driver oriented. It is glued to the road while even standing still. It has perfect ride height but well due to our terrible roads 9th gen had to suffer.

    Phir bhi after all this I love the steering of 9th gen...it is accurate and sharp...not totally dead and numb like many eps out there. Only due to this 9th gen still has something to offer for the driver. While driving it I love to corner around. And also the thrill of prosmatic makes revving 9th gen a charm.

    Now I am so curious what 10th gen has to offer. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
    And waiting for many Civic diehard fans on like you to review it on PW.

    Lastly which is faster 8th gen or 9th gen? @309



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabeel_Ali View Post
    After hearing so much positive stuff about reborn...I sometimes wish I had bought it. I directly came from 7th to 9th gen.

    And you are first one who have said that reborn has a bit softer springs as compared to 9th gen. Many people consider reborn harsher then 9th gen...I used to think the same due to word of mouth. But as you own both, your approach matters the most now. Well yes after driving 9th gen indeed it is very stiff ... only branded tyres make this ride comfortable.

    And yes after all this discussion I have to say this that 9th gen was designed for Pakistani roads rather then the driver itself.

    Yes interms of interior...no Pakistani car yet comes close to 9th gen...it is beautiful yet functional ... and there are hardly any blind spots.

    Kabhi mera mood buna tu definitely I will buy reborn.

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    Sir you are only going enjoy a reborn if it is in good nick otherwise you might hate as this is usually the case with most of the civic models. But yes if you do find one that is in pristine condition then by all means go for it and experience first hand what it really is.
    VTEC did not kicked in ooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabeel_Ali View Post
    Very well written comparison Ali bhai. Reborn ko dekhne se hi lagta hai k it is driver oriented. It is glued to the road while even standing still. It has perfect ride height but well due to our terrible roads 9th gen had to suffer.

    Phir bhi after all this I love the steering of 9th gen...it is accurate and sharp...not totally dead and numb like many eps out there. Only due to this 9th gen still has something to offer for the driver. While driving it I love to corner around. And also the thrill of prosmatic makes revving 9th gen a charm.

    Now I am so curious what 10th gen has to offer. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
    And waiting for many Civic diehard fans on like you to review it on PW.

    Lastly which is faster 8th gen or 9th gen? @309



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    Although i haven't timed them 0-60 but to me the 8th gen feels quicker off of the line mostly due to the fact that it has lower center of gravity.
    VTEC did not kicked in ooooo

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    Quote Originally Posted by 309 View Post
    Sir you are only going enjoy a reborn if it is in good nick otherwise you might hate as this is usually the case with most of the civic models. But yes if you do find one that is in pristine condition then by all means go for it and experience first hand what it really is.
    Yes gone are those days. Majority have destroyed their reborns.

    I wish you were in Lahore warna aap sai test drive leta but koi nahi @arkhitekt sai appointment leni parray gi

    Anyways thank you both of you for the in depth comparison.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabeel_Ali View Post
    Very well written comparison Ali bhai. Reborn ko dekhne se hi lagta hai k it is driver oriented. It is glued to the road while even standing still. It has perfect ride height but well due to our terrible roads 9th gen had to suffer.

    Phir bhi after all this I love the steering of 9th gen...it is accurate and sharp...not totally dead and numb like many eps out there. Only due to this 9th gen still has something to offer for the driver. While driving it I love to corner around. And also the thrill of prosmatic makes revving 9th gen a charm.

    Now I am so curious what 10th gen has to offer. Can't wait to get my hands on it.
    And waiting for many Civic diehard fans on like you to review it on PW.

    Lastly which is faster 8th gen or 9th gen? @309



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    Which is faster, probably 9th Gen by points of a percentage. I'd say they are almost the same. Very hard to tell. But that's about maybe aceleration. The main thing is "which can go faster" and that would be 8th. Like the over speeding part i mentioned earlier. High speed stability


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabeel_Ali View Post
    Yes gone are those days. Majority have destroyed their reborns.

    I wish you were in Lahore warna aap sai test drive leta but koi nahi @arkhitekt sai appointment leni parray gi

    Anyways thank you both of you for the in depth comparison.

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    Haazir Janaab. I have 2 types of 8th Gen, one is the project car 2007 and other is 73k original Honda maintained. Both Prosmatecs. You can drive both


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    Sub bekar gariyan hain Pakistan main yar, mujhay to kissi ka maza nahy aya abhy tak. Reborn is somewhat better than others.

    Here is mine, after detailing shot 2 months ago. I'll upload some more pics later.

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    Before this I had a silver 2011 manual model. Manual reborns have horrible gear lever and clutch, otherwise it goes like a rocket. I once got in a kind of race on motorway with a prosmatec, overtook him at 160 without any trouble in 4th gear, went up to 190 easily but then slowed down to 150, otherwise it was still accelerating at good pace. Promatec at higher speeds feel like as its struggling. It does not have the acceleration above 100KM like the manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by centos View Post
    Sub bekar gariyan hain Pakistan main yar, mujhay to kissi ka maza nahy aya abhy tak. Reborn is somewhat better than others.

    Here is mine, after detailing shot 2 months ago. I'll upload some more pics later.

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    Before this I had a silver 2011 manual model. Manual reborns have horrible gear lever and clutch, otherwise it goes like a rocket. I once got in a kind of race on motorway with a prosmatec, overtook him at 160 without any trouble in 4th gear, went up to 190 easily but then slowed down to 150, otherwise it was still accelerating at good pace. Promatec at higher speeds feel like as its struggling. It does not have the acceleration above 100KM like the manual.
    I think the opposite of what you said...no pakistani car has that kind of awesome lever and clutch...yes in traffic after sometime the clutch starts hurting your legs apart from that its perfect


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    Quote Originally Posted by centos View Post
    Sub bekar gariyan hain Pakistan main yar, mujhay to kissi ka maza nahy aya abhy tak. Reborn is somewhat better than others.

    Here is mine, after detailing shot 2 months ago. I'll upload some more pics later.

    8th generation Civic fan and owner club -1697745

    Before this I had a silver 2011 manual model. Manual reborns have horrible gear lever and clutch, otherwise it goes like a rocket. I once got in a kind of race on motorway with a prosmatec, overtook him at 160 without any trouble in 4th gear, went up to 190 easily but then slowed down to 150, otherwise it was still accelerating at good pace. Promatec at higher speeds feel like as its struggling. It does not have the acceleration above 100KM like the manual.
    Well then out of all the bekar local cars this is the least bekarish.


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    Guys,

    I have Honda Civic Reborn 2010 and it has done 78000 km. I have an issue with the car, when speed reaches 80 km/hr, engine becomes noisy and loud. It was not the case before as i am the first owner and drove all these 78000 Km.

    Could you please suggest what could be the issue? I already changed engine oil and oil filter.


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    ^ Please check complete silencer/ dholki set as well as Cat Converter.

    Rest tech gurus can guide further.

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    Salam . Today i went to honda for tunning . While doing tappet adjustment they told me that one of the tappet is sliped and it wont tight and will make sound . They recommend me to change whole tappets set but they were not available in their parts store and they ask me to leave car for one week but i insist to fix it now so they called their head and he somehow manage to tight the tappet but it was sliped and not fully tight . Now the car running smooth and soundless .what you guys suggest should i chage whole tappets or should i wait as the car is now running fine. And what problem may arise due to this .car is civic 2012 prosmatec and milage is 70k. One more thing my car engine vibrates in 2nd gear and when it shifts to 3rd vibration disappears . And the vibration is only in 1000 to 2000rpm if rpm is high no vibration . Is it the problem with transmission or engine foundaion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moooniraja View Post
    Salam . Today i went to honda for tunning . While doing tappet adjustment they told me that one of the tappet is sliped and it wont tight and will make sound . They recommend me to change whole tappets set but they were not available in their parts store and they ask me to leave car for one week but i insist to fix it now so they called their head and he somehow manage to tight the tappet but it was sliped and not fully tight . Now the car running smooth and soundless .what you guys suggest should i chage whole tappets or should i wait as the car is now running fine. And what problem may arise due to this .car is civic 2012 prosmatec and milage is 70k. One more thing my car engine vibrates in 2nd gear and when it shifts to 3rd vibration disappears . And the vibration is only in 1000 to 2000rpm if rpm is high no vibration . Is it the problem with transmission or engine foundaion.
    If it's a Prosmatec that vibration you mentioned is typically from the gearbox. Oil change of transmission should make it go away


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