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    the 2006 generation Honda split the model into two different platforms, one primarily for the home market and North America and the other designed for the European market using a simpler rear suspension from the Honda Fit and more aggressive styling. As of 2006, a total of 16.5 million Civics had been sold worldwide, with 7.3 million of them in the United States.[5] Although the North American and the home market model differ externally, they are mechanically identical. The European model is available as a three and five-door hatchback while the Japanese/North American model is available as either sedan or coupe. Both Si and Type-R trim levels continue although the Japanese and European Type-R while sharing the same size engine are mechanically different. In the US an improved version of the Si tuned by Honda tuner Mugen is offered featuring cosmetic alterations and changes to the suspension and exhaust system. The Acura version of the Civic not only received the design change, but also saw a new nameplate, changing from the Acura EL to the Acura CSX. In Japan starting March 2006, the Honda dealership sales channels called Honda Primo, Verno, and Clio were disbanded, and combined into one retail dealership called Honda Cars.

    Online workshop Manual:

    http://civic.hondafitjazz.com/manual2.html

    Maintenance schedule:

    Fluids:

    Engine oil: 3.7-4 liters @5,000kms
    Havoline formula 10W30
    Havoline synthetic 5w30
    Genuine Honda (Total Repack) 5w30Transmission oilManual transmission) 1.4 L Fluid Change, 1.6 L at Overhaul @ 40,000kms.
    Honda original MTF approx 1000Rs /liter

    (Automatic transmission) 2.4 L at change, 5.9 L at overhaul @ 40,000kms
    Honda original ATF approx 1000Rs /literBrake oil: 0.9 litre after 2 years
    Honda Brake fluid. approx 1000Rs /liter

    Hydraulic Clutch oil:
    Honda Brake fluid.

    Power steering oil: 1 litre @ 40,000kms
    Honda genuine PSF. approx 1000Rs /liter

    Coolant: Manual:5.2 liter Auto:5.5 liter @1,50,000kms or 4 years
    Honda type 2 coolant
    Caltex coolant.

    Parts change:

    Brake pads change:
    recommended @ 40,000kms
    Genuine Honda pads or Original Nissin pads.

    Fuel filter change @ 80,000kms

    Air filter change @ 10,000kms
    Use Honda filter. If any other then change earlier.

    Spark plugs @ 80,000-1,00,000kms
    NGK Laser Iridiums. IZFR6K11

    Timing belt: Not required. Civic 8th gen has timing chain instead of belt which usually last a life time.

    Tune-up @20,000 kms.
    Things done:
    Throttle plate cleaned, valves adjusted, plugs cleaned/replaced and idle adjusted using HDS.

    Tyres:

    Best All rounder tires:

    Yokohama dB Decible
    Michillin Energy

    Extreme traction/grip:

    Falken ZieX 912
    Yokohama C Drive
    Comfort:Yokohama C Drive
    Dunlop Eco

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    Any idea abt mileage guys


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    Quote Originally Posted by BCGT View Post
    Any idea abt mileage guys


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    it all depends on how you drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faizan7535 View Post
    it all depends on how you drive.
    At long yes but not in city

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentassassin1 View Post
    At long yes but not in city
    Driving style actually has the greatest impact on local fuel economy. On the highway, you can't do much except reduce your speed.
    _ 22 km/l from '03 VTi automatic, with plenty of room for improvement
    _ How to hypermile: http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/1510/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZainMahdi View Post
    Driving style actually has the greatest impact on local fuel economy. On the highway, you can't do much except reduce your speed.
    Whatever you do manuak civic in city at best might give 12 , certainly thats what i achieved max 12 to 13, normally 9-11, However on Long 16+ can be attained easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentassassin1 View Post
    Whatever you do manuak civic in city at best might give 12 , certainly thats what i achieved max 12 to 13, normally 9-11, However on Long 16+ can be attained easily.
    Might your car have a scangauge/ultragauge or anything similar?
    _ 22 km/l from '03 VTi automatic, with plenty of room for improvement
    _ How to hypermile: http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/1510/

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentassassin1 View Post
    At long yes but not in city
    in city it's driving style + route.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZainMahdi View Post
    Might your car have a scangauge/ultragauge or anything similar?
    Lot of idling in city, And its general that civic gives much better mileage on long

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentassassin1 View Post
    Lot of idling in city, And its general that civic gives much better mileage on long
    exactly my point and if economy is your main concern, you're better of with prius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faizan7535 View Post
    exactly my point and if economy is your main concern, you're better of with prius.
    No not my main concern, My drive is low so thats not much of issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentassassin1 View Post
    Lot of idling in city, And its general that civic gives much better mileage on long
    Its a manual transmission though - P&G in the city will give you fuel economy results that can not be matched on the highway.

    An example: someone pulled 36 km/l for 6 km on the same car. There is no way to achieve that figure at highway speeds.
    _ 22 km/l from '03 VTi automatic, with plenty of room for improvement
    _ How to hypermile: http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/1510/

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZainMahdi View Post
    Its a manual transmission though - P&G in the city will give you fuel economy results that can not be matched on the highway.

    An example: someone pulled 36 km/l for 6 km on the same car. There is no way to achieve that figure at highway speeds.
    Okay, Kindly tell me the procedure he applied as well then. I never got better figures in city than what i got on long

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentassassin1 View Post
    Okay, Kindly tell me the procedure he applied as well then. I never got better figures in city than what i got on long
    The most important thing is to avoid idling at all costs.

    Then there is DWB (Drive Without Brakes), Potential Parking (park on higher ground when possible), EOC (Engine Off Coasting), and P&G (pulse and glide). You can read about them on the link in my signature.

    These are the core hypermiling techniques in the city. The last part requires a scangauge/ultragauge, or even an mpgGUINO - even I don't have those yet.

    BTW, the driver was Wayne Gerdes, the founder of modern day hypermiling - we can't get these sort of figures even with a fuel economy display, but we can still come close, and improve with practice.
    _ 22 km/l from '03 VTi automatic, with plenty of room for improvement
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZainMahdi View Post
    The most important thing is to avoid idling at all costs.

    Then there is DWB (Drive Without Brakes), Potential Parking (park on higher ground when possible), EOC (Engine Off Coasting), and P&G (pulse and glide). You can read about them on the link in my signature.

    These are the core hypermiling techniques in the city. The last part requires a scangauge/ultragauge, or even an mpgGUINO - even I don't have those yet.

    BTW, the driver was Wayne Gerdes, the founder of modern day hypermiling - we can't get these sort of figures even with a fuel economy display, but we can still come close, and improve with practice.
    Now the problem is, When you are driving in city particularly with breakers and bumps, braking and bit of idling is required, Wayne Gerdes probably havent been to Gujranwala. To take the things further, Downshift on khaddas and bumps or brake due to coilovers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentassassin1 View Post
    Now the problem is, When you are driving in city particularly with breakers and bumps, braking and bit of idling is required, Wayne Gerdes probably havent been to Gujranwala. To take the things further, Downshift on khaddas and bumps or brake due to coilovers.
    I can relate with that - but my first measured hypermiling trip included 30 km of rural KPK roads and small towns. That should have absolutely killed the average, but I managed 18 km/l from that trip.

    There were plenty of opportunities to shut down the engine even in the pothole ridden towns, but I didn't (the car was an auto, and I didn't have a battery voltage readout).

    It simply takes a trained eye and quick reflexes, which only come with practice. If it helps further, I have been engine off coasting in my Cultus for a long time even when the Metro project was at its peak - carpeted roads were extinct in most of the areas back then.
    _ 22 km/l from '03 VTi automatic, with plenty of room for improvement
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZainMahdi View Post
    I can relate with that - but my first measured hypermiling trip included 30 km of rural KPK roads and small towns. That should have absolutely killed the average, but I managed 18 km/l from that trip.

    There were plenty of opportunities to shut down the engine even in the pothole ridden towns, but I didn't (the car was an auto, and I didn't have a battery voltage readout).

    It simply takes a trained eye and quick reflexes, which only come with practice. If it helps further, I have been engine off coasting in my Cultus for a long time even when the Metro project was at its peak - carpeted roads were extinct in most of the areas back then.
    What rpm do you maintain? And gears?

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentassassin1 View Post
    What rpm do you maintain? And gears?
    In the Cultus, I shift at 1.8k-2.3k RPM. It can easily keep up with traffic at those RPM.

    The Civic is a different story since its an auto - not really relevant here. In a few words, I let it upshift as early as possible.
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    So if a layman approach were to be applied on the driving style.. 6-7km/l seems alright? Or do I need to have my car checked much more thoroughly.
    P.s I'm from khi and usually drive keeping in consideration the hypermilling concept to whatever extent I could apply.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZainMahdi View Post
    In the Cultus, I shift at 1.8k-2.3k RPM. It can easily keep up with traffic at those RPM.

    The Civic is a different story since its an auto - not really relevant here. In a few words, I let it upshift as early as possible.
    Civic manual, Upshift in between 1 to 2k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCGT View Post
    So if a layman approach were to be applied on the driving style.. 6-7km/l seems alright? Or do I need to have my car checked much more thoroughly.
    P.s I'm from khi and usually drive keeping in consideration the hypermilling concept to whatever extent I could apply.


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    6-7 km/l is extremely low - my ES1 automatic gets 9-11 km/l when driven by my mom or dad (no hypermiling). Keep in mind that that car has an outdated 4 speed gearbox. What is your car's maintenance history?

    I have driven in Karachi traffic for a short while in peak hours - there are plenty of hypermiling opportunities there. For starters, don't idle (even at signal stops), and keep up with traffic. You should get around 11 easily (assuming the car is in proper condition).
    _ 22 km/l from '03 VTi automatic, with plenty of room for improvement
    _ How to hypermile: http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/1510/

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