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    Hi All,

    Having a problem with my brakes and was wondering what you guys think.

    When i try to step on the brakes real hard, the ABS engages too soon and thus the stopping distance is reduced substantially. As a result i dont feel safe at all driving the car and feel like the brakes are of no use.

    Even if i try to drive real slow, lets say 40km/hr and brake real hard, the abs turns ON.

    I have replaced the front brake pads and saw no effect.

    I live in Islamabad, can anyone recommend any good mechanic which can diagnose the problem? I have had mechanics take a look and they were at a loss as to why this is happening?

    Thanks a lot.


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    same problem wid my vitz..

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    Hopefully the gurus over here can chip in

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    i guess u r pressing brakes v hard

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    nope. The ABS should not turn ON so soon. The car should stop right away but doesnot and the car just glides forward with the ABS active.

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    @poster
    are ur tyers are OK? In case of flat tyers ABS may activate early due to less resistance/grip with road.
    Well i would recommend u NAZIR AUTOS in G-8, he is expensive but do quality work. But u have to visit him b/w 9-11 am because normally in afternoon he don't take new work.
    I am attaching scan copy of his visiting card.

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    Whats wrong if ur brakes are working good and the cars stopping distance is reduced??

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    tyres size are oem?
    Your grandchildren will likely find it incredible - or even sinful - that you burned up a gallon of gasoline to fetch a pack of cigarettes!

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    @fadi_fadi
    Thanks a lot for the info. Tyres are OK. I was suspecting bad tyres, but dont want to go ahead and purchase all 4 new tyres without first making making sure they are the tyres indeed. I will pay Nazir Autos and see what he has to say.

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    Well the problem is that the car should stop right away with such low speed. The fact that ABS is turning ON at such low speed indicates somewhere something is wrong. Maybe tyres, maybe something else. Also when i hit the brakes real hard, the car just moves forward with the ABS active and does not stop on time.

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    Tyre size is OEM I believe. What size comes standard in a 2004 Honda VTI? I can check my Tyre size and confirm?

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    well, i was having the same feeling with my vti 2k2. Changed the tires and the issue was resolved !

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    @taimoorkhan

    Great. Which tyres did you put on and what size?

    So you had the exact same symptoms before changing the tyres and now after changing the tyres, the braking has improved dramatically?

    Thanks.

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    if your tyres are nt so grippy ur abs engages soon cz when it slips it engages!
    Your grandchildren will likely find it incredible - or even sinful - that you burned up a gallon of gasoline to fetch a pack of cigarettes!

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    If you press the brake pedal hard, the ABS will turn on no matter what. If it detects slip on any one of the 4 wheels, the ABS will engage (the civic has a 4 point ABS system). It could be at 40km/h, or even 20km/h.

    Just brake earlier. There's no point in you feeling unsafe due to a feature that's designed to give you control in hard braking situations.
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    @ poster..let me clear you one thing brother....ABS has nothing to do with stopping the car earlier...infact it takes little bit more time to stop the car as compared to the normal brakes....actually what happens is that when your car's four tires are in uneven position due to mud, crush, oil, water etc, on applying brakes ABS activated and instead of jamming all the four wheels at an instant (as in normal brake system) it releases the wheels which are in uneven position so that the car should be balanced ( or in asaan urdu ABS for mili seconds chor chor k brakes permit karta hai jab tak k all the four wheels balance nahin ho jain)....so in my opinion your problem is some thing different....check out the brake oil level and its condition also and if all the things are ok then it might be the psychological problem...
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    @Bilaltq , Zish16 and Legal_rebel

    Thanks all for the information. So lets say I am going at a low speed, and press the brake hard, would'nt a car with good brakes stop right away without the ABS turning on?

    It might be that I have bad tyres and because of that they slip even at low speeds.

    I have driven other cars too but I have never had this problem. Infact in other cars turning on ON the ABS wasn't so easy haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zish16 View Post
    ....ABS has nothing to do with stopping the car earlier...infact it takes little bit more time to stop the car as compared to the normal brakes...
    That's just a common thought in Pakistan. I've come across so many people who expect the ABS to increase their stopping distance. The fact is that the ABS keeps the tires gripped to the road, and grip is more important than your brake pads being slammed onto the caliper.

    Here's a very good illustration of braking with and without ABS. Look at what happens without ABS:






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    @Bilaltq , Zish16 and Legal_rebel

    Thanks all for the information. So lets say I am going at a low speed, and press the brake hard, would'nt a car with good brakes stop right away without the ABS turning on?

    It might be that I have bad tyres and because of that they slip even at low speeds.

    I have driven other cars too but I have never had this problem. Infact in other cars turning on ON the ABS wasn't so easy haha
    Tires. I can't stress that point enough. Most people always overlook tires. I can't tell you how many times my ABS turned on when I was driving on bald tires, on hot dry days even. In the rain, it almost always used to turn on if I needed to make a quicker stop than normal.

    Just get those tires looked at, and brake a bit earlier. Your car will thank you.
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    abs doesn't help to reduce stopping distance. instead it gives you the ability to steer under hard braking. Don’t brake hard. This problem is with my civic too. if i press the brake pedal suddenly even under normal braking, the abs engages. So to avoid this i apply a gradually increasing pressure to prevent abs engaging during normal braking and maintaining a safe stopping distance.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o:p></o:p>

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    there IS a possibility of ABS actually increasing the braking distance of a car.

    if u are driving on loose mud/gravel and u brake hard, the tyres will not lock and the car will keep on running over the surface of gravel/mud.but if the wheels jam, the will probably drag some mud/gravel on the front side or will dig into the surface hence decreasing the braking distance.so keep this in mind when driving on such surface next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hanzla View Post
    abs doesn't help to reduce stopping distance. instead it gives you the ability to steer under hard braking. <o:p></o:p>
    Remember that ABS was designed for those moments where you HAVE to slam on the brakes. In the normal course of the day, we drive normally and use the brakes as we should. But if something unexpected happens and we need to literally slam the brakes, the ABS keeps your tires gripped, and doesn't let the car slide. If the car slides, your only means of stopping the car is the friction between the road surface and your tire tread. Your car WILL stop... eventually.
    Just look at the video above. That's irrefutable proof.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmadbila View Post
    there IS a possibility of ABS actually increasing the braking distance of a car.

    if u are driving on loose mud/gravel and u brake hard, the tyres will not lock and the car will keep on running over the surface of gravel/mud.but if the wheels jam, the will probably drag some mud/gravel on the front side or will dig into the surface hence decreasing the braking distance.so keep this in mind when driving on such surface next time.
    So basically like digging the tires their own grave? lol I honestly can't argue with that example
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