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    Default [SCAM ALERT] Installation & Test log's of CNG HYBRID SYSTEM in HONDA CIVIC 97

    Honda D17a (1700cc) Automatic Transmisson .
    Fuel Average on Petrol was quite bad which was 7km per liter
    55 L CNG Cylinder was giving the average of 130km local (Islamabad Route).
    and on long drive it give's 180km per cylinder.

    After installation of CNG HYBRID System
    petrol average is stabled at 30km / L
    and a full cylinder support's upto 300 km at local and 350-380 km at long drive.
    more info will be provided on request.
    More Test Log's
    Log's Detail's Petrol
    Before
    On Local Route's
    5.5km per liter
    Petrol Per KM Detail 17.45 RS Per Km.

    On Long Rote's
    7km per liter
    Petrol Per KM Detal 13.71 RS Per Km

    Detail of CNG
    Before
    On Local Route's
    120 Km per cylinder
    CNG per KM Detail 5.83 RS Per Km.

    On Long Route's
    180 Km Per Cylinder
    CNG Per Km Detail 3.8 Rs Per Km.



    After
    On Local Route's
    30km per liter
    Petrol Per KM Detail 3.2 RS Per Km.

    On Long Rote's
    30km per liter
    Petrol Per KM Detal 3.2 RS Per Km

    Detail of CNG
    Before
    On Local Route's
    300 Km per cylinder
    CNG per KM Detail 2.33 RS Per Km.

    ON Long Route's
    390 Km Per Cylinder
    CNG Per Km Detail 1.79 Rs Per Km.


    Combined Local Expence Per Km is 3.2 +2.33 = 5.53RS Per KM
    Combined Long Route Expence Per Km is 3.2 + 1.79 = 4.99 Rs Per KM

    NOTE: THE ABOVE MENTIONED LOG'S ARE ACCURATE AND TRUE. OUR RESPECTED CUSTOMER IS SATISFIED BY THESE RESULT'S (WE CAN IMPROVE THESE RESULT'S MORE EFFICIENT AS PER CUSTOMER DEMAND).

    Regard's
    Raja Atta-Ur-Rehman
    Project Leader at
    Rehman Auto's (Ultimate Economy Group).
    +92-0311-5135516
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    thak's for your suggestion will do some work on it still a negotiation is under way with NUST (DEAN) DR Ahsaan saab to test and certify this product at higher level. once again thank's for your suggestion. may god bless you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzi_66972 View Post
    Means around 1500 rupees of fuel and it does 300 km in it?
    brother this fuel cost is accepted by our respected customer he is happy with it. we can decrease this cost also but if some one dont agree with you. you cant force him to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cool_raja View Post
    lets say civic runs out of cng then how much km/L will it give on petrol only?
    dear User when the Cng will end in the vehicle the vehicle's petrol mileage will returned to factory setting which in this case is 7 km/l.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammad_kh View Post
    im not gonna waste my time and money
    dear user this thread is just for information purposes only please dont take it personally and avoid to start a fight here thank's plz consider it a humble request from op thank's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaudhary9 View Post
    u live in isl,give it a try
    CH saab i think now you deserve a free trial after trial's of this honda I will arrange an installation for your vehicle will inform you on cell phone about time and date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateEconomyGroup View Post
    thak's for your suggestion will do some work on it still a negotiation is under way with NUST (DEAN) DR Ahsaan saab to test and certify this product at higher level. once again thank's for your suggestion. may god bless you.
    THat is what I was trying to say get your technology verified and certified and if it turns out to be a good one you will have a good business. But if it is not good one and fake you will only end being aga waqar

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    Lolzz im not starting any fight mate. Just saying that I wont waste my time and money on experimental stuff like this. Its been tried before and simply doesnt work..... your claimed fuel economy is only possible in wonderland and the long term implications are unknown.
    Plus I am assuming you are using some means of leaning out the AFR to dangerously low levels which may not only be damaging to the engine in the long run but also ruining the performance of the vehicle. Always remember that the factory tuned ECU's come with the near perfect AFR and fueling for the best compromise between performance and economy. This obsession with ultimate economy has never worked in the past. But if it does work with your technology you reached new engineering heights

    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateEconomyGroup View Post
    dear user this thread is just for information purposes only please dont take it personally and avoid to start a fight here thank's plz consider it a humble request from op thank's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammad_kh View Post
    Lolzz im not starting any fight mate. Just saying that I wont waste my time and money on experimental stuff like this. Its been tried before and simply doesnt work..... your claimed fuel economy is only possible in wonderland and the long term implications are unknown.
    Plus I am assuming you are using some means of leaning out the AFR to dangerously low levels which may not only be damaging to the engine in the long run but also ruining the performance of the vehicle. Always remember that the factory tuned ECU's come with the near perfect AFR and fueling for the best compromise between performance and economy. This obsession with ultimate economy has never worked in the past. But if it does work with your technology you reached new engineering heights
    Dear Brother that is not the experimental stuff it is refined product and we lean the AFR to a certain level on which engine doesnt suffer the power losses althogh we had full control of AFR upto 1000% to lean out but first we asses the engine condition then we do the leaning job and our first priority is to deliver the engine the required amount of fuel by balancing both of the fuel's together and our leaning's are fixed and are constant. We can gave you a trial because you are a sensible man who know's the peak of engineering like stuff. will be happy to have you in our community.
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    Rehman Auto's (UEG)
    +92-0331-5135516
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    Quote Originally Posted by a_n_memon88 View Post
    THat is what I was trying to say get your technology verified and certified and if it turns out to be a good one you will have a good business. But if it is not good one and fake you will only end being aga waqar
    AlhumdulilAh our system is not fake as of Agha Waqar's system was. we had installed this system in more than 2200 car's we had a great no of witnesses who are using and enjoying our system . will get it certify Insh a Allah.

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    Two questions:
    How do you assess engine condition? What AFR do you set for idle and full load?
    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateEconomyGroup View Post
    Dear Brother that is not the experimental stuff it is refined product and we lean the AFR to a certain level on which engine doesnt suffer the power losses althogh we had full control of AFR upto 1000% to lean out but first we asses the engine condition then we do the leaning job and our first priority is to deliver the engine the required amount of fuel by balancing both of the fuel's together and our leaning's are fixed and are constant. We can gave you a trial because you are a sensible man who know's the peak of engineering like stuff. will be happy to have you in our community.
    Kind Regard's
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    Rehman Auto's (UEG)
    +92-0331-5135516
    +92-0311-5135516
    +92-0311-5135516
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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateEconomyGroup View Post
    brother in city that civic is giving 30 km in a liter and the cylinder end's on 300km .
    it is consuming 10liter of petrol and a full cylinder of cng to travel in local.
    you mean 1000/= for petrol + 600 for cng = 1600/= in which 300km local and 390km long route. where as if we use only cng of equal value to petrol+cng i mean 1600/= it`ll give round about 274km on Local routs and about 421km on long routs soo what`s your point is that we invest our preciouse money for just for 10% increase of mileage on local and we risk our electrical and machenical systems for this ?
    FOR GOD SAKE stop making fool ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by shegg4 View Post
    you mean 1000/= for petrol + 600 for cng = 1600/= in which 300km local and 390km long route. where as if we use only cng of equal value to petrol+cng i mean 1600/= it`ll give round about 274km on Local routs and about 421km on long routs soo what`s your point is that we invest our preciouse money for just for 10% increase of mileage on local and we risk our electrical and machenical systems for this ?
    FOR GOD SAKE stop making fool ..
    Dear user enjoy the long cng ques this result is only for the above mentioned vehicle not for every one every vehicle's result is different from another and yet we had to fulfill our customer's demand of acceleration which you guy's suffer on CNG and thereis no kind of risk installing our system for more info contact at phone no then post a comment on thread thank's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateEconomyGroup View Post
    Dear user enjoy the long cng ques this result is only for the above mentioned vehicle not for every one every vehicle's result is different from another and yet we had to fulfill our customer's demand of acceleration which you guy's suffer on CNG and thereis no kind of risk installing our system for more info contact at phone no then post a comment on thread thank's.
    This is not the correct and satisfying answer to my question ....
    your system also needs cng soo there isn`t any prob with ques.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shegg4 View Post
    This is not the correct and satisfying answer to my question ....
    your system also needs cng soo there isn`t any prob with ques.....
    the answer of your question lies in that answer given above i will again answer you. The economy is settled after the trial's given to our respected customer's if our customer's demand us that he need more acceleration as compared to cng then we had to adjust the both of the fuel's as per their desire and the above mentioned log's are for this vehicle only. if our customer demand's to have saving in fuel as compared to cng then in many cases we can reduce the total cost by 50% as compared to cng. if you need more info you can contact me Thank's

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    Can this system be installed on old Carby engine or it is only for EFI engines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateEconomyGroup View Post
    Dear User this is CNG Hybrid System not the electric hybrid synergies if you want to know more please read the previous thread's and you will get your answer's. Thanks's

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    https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/cng...ana-2006-model
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    What you meant by Dear User

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    Quote Originally Posted by shegg4 View Post
    you mean 1000/= for petrol + 600 for cng = 1600/= in which 300km local and 390km long route. where as if we use only cng of equal value to petrol+cng i mean 1600/= it`ll give round about 274km on Local routs and about 421km on long routs soo what`s your point is that we invest our preciouse money for just for 10% increase of mileage on local and we risk our electrical and machenical systems for this ?
    FOR GOD SAKE stop making fool ..

    well said

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    Jb cng ban ho jage tu kya petrol k 7 pani dal k chala ge car ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by UltimateEconomyGroup View Post
    brother in city that civic is giving 30 km in a liter and the cylinder end's on 300km .
    it is consuming 10liter of petrol and a full cylinder of cng to travel in local.
    Is it possible for u to give contact details of few of those 2200 people who installed it in their rides??

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