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    Default Oil Chamber Seal Leaking-Civic 1997

    Dear All,

    After getting the oil changed last week. the car started leaking oil not much its around few drops over night. My concern is why this happened after changing the oil this time, it was not happening before. The oil filter took some time to get off this time? could this be the reason.

    I went to the mechanic who changed the oil and inquired that if the oil filter or chamber bolt is loose he said inspected and said that both the things are fine and the oil is leaking from chamber seal. The seal needs to be replaced.

    Does anyone know that what should be the cost for changing the chamber seal that is the labor + seal cost foc civic 1997. he asked for Rs 1800 labor and 350-400 for the seal and 150 for silicon.

    The mechanic told me that the engine will have to be lifted to replace the seal. what other work things that can be check and worked upon now as the engine will lifted.

    Regards

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    Do yourself a favor and install genuine seal not these chinese ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaqas1 View Post
    Do yourself a favor and install genuine seal not these chinese ones.

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    any idea about the labour cost

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    Bro oil leak means any engine seal broken and cause is your mechanic put extra engine oil in it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farooqbash View Post
    Dear All,

    After getting the oil changed last week. the car started leaking oil not much its around few drops over night. My concern is why this happened after changing the oil this time, it was not happening before. The oil filter took some time to get off this time? could this be the reason.

    I went to the mechanic who changed the oil and inquired that if the oil filter or chamber bolt is loose he said inspected and said that both the things are fine and the oil is leaking from chamber seal. The seal needs to be replaced.

    Does anyone know that what should be the cost for changing the chamber seal that is the labor + seal cost foc civic 1997. he asked for Rs 1800 labor and 350-400 for the seal and 150 for silicon.

    The mechanic told me that the engine will have to be lifted to replace the seal. what other work things that can be check and worked upon now as the engine will lifted.

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    Use original seal
    make SURE that the chamber is straight, and fits perfectly in-line to the engine - otherwise get it straightened/aligned perfectly by a good denter
    DO NOT USE silicone, I have replaced many seals and used brand new engine oil, just coat the seal lightly with your fingers with new oil on both sides and fit. Someone may dis-agree with me here, but I haven't run into any problems with my method. If you have a better solution please let us know

    since the engine will be lifted out, pulley bearings / seals, timing belt and associated parts, water body, engine mounts and of course cleaning of the engine bay
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    Quote Originally Posted by syncview View Post
    Use original seal
    make SURE that the chamber is straight, and fits perfectly in-line to the engine - otherwise get it straightened/aligned perfectly by a good denter
    DO NOT USE silicone, I have replaced many seals and used brand new engine oil, just coat the seal lightly with your fingers with new oil on both sides and fit. Someone may dis-agree with me here, but I haven't run into any problems with my method. If you have a better solution please let us know

    since the engine will be lifted out, pulley bearings / seals, timing belt and associated parts, water body, engine mounts and of course cleaning of the engine bay
    Thankyou very much for the info

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    Quote Originally Posted by racerali View Post
    Bro oil leak means any engine seal broken and cause is your mechanic put extra engine oil in it
    You are right he did that and the oil level is still an mm above the max level. I did say to him that the level is a bit high and he said that once the car start the oil will go into the oil filter and the level will decrease.

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    From where to get the original oil pan/chamber seal in karachi? specialy any where in the surroundings of clifton

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    I bought my car's tappet cover seal from Plaza, Nasir autos. There are a couple more shops in that area that deal with genuine Honda parts. I bought a seal for my EG (1995) from Nasir autos. Cost was somewhere around 500 Rs.

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    And, you will not find a genuine seal from the Defence/Clifton area. Don't even bother locating one. I did and it turned out to be a local seal, also that of an EK civic, it was a bit off from my car's seal, the packing had "95 Civic" written on it, so even the shop keeper did not know it was from another model. The mechanic installed it and I later found out that the oil did not stop leaking. Finally bought one from Plaza and it did the trick.

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    Thanks for the info bro. Actually i am new in karachi

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    the sump bolts are not tightened super tight, they are gently tightened to about 9 lb/ft which is very low, if you dont have a torque ratchet that can measure that low then use a nut driver and tighten by hand only after ensuring the sump is flat and all the bolts are clean.

    There are a few spots that take a dab of sealant on the outer side to ensure a proper seal as the sump and block are dissimilar metals and expand at different rates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    the sump bolts are not tightened super tight, they are gently tightened to about 9 lb/ft which is very low, if you dont have a torque ratchet that can measure that low then use a nut driver and tighten by hand only after ensuring the sump is flat and all the bolts are clean.

    There are a few spots that take a dab of sealant on the outer side to ensure a proper seal as the sump and block are dissimilar metals and expand at different rates.
    Thanks xulfi for the info. Do we need to lift the engine for this work (mechanic said that).

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    the exhaust pipe needs to be unbolted (if yours is original flange type system) if its a solid pipe, boohoo then cut the exhaust. The engine does not need to be lifted in this car, the underside is pretty much open - infact so much open most Honda engine swaps are done as shove engine under car then lift it into place. Just undo the exhaust pipe and you are good to go. Whilst at it, renew the oil pump pickup O ring with a genuine part - its most probably hard as a biscuit by now.
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    @Xulfiqar
    I've always wondered something; Is the oil pickup supposed to be cleaned periodically?

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    Quote Originally Posted by supraman2jz View Post
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    I've always wondered something; Is the oil pickup supposed to be cleaned periodically?
    nopes unless the engine is a known sludge machine like a SAAB 2.3 run on cheap mineral oil which never could go above 70C (no tstat) and bad PCV
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    the sump bolts are not tightened super tight, they are gently tightened to about 9 lb/ft which is very low, if you dont have a torque ratchet that can measure that low then use a nut driver and tighten by hand only after ensuring the sump is flat and all the bolts are clean.

    There are a few spots that take a dab of sealant on the outer side to ensure a proper seal as the sump and block are dissimilar metals and expand at different rates.
    What type of sealant one should use there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    the sump bolts are not tightened super tight, they are gently tightened to about 9 lb/ft which is very low, if you dont have a torque ratchet that can measure that low then use a nut driver and tighten by hand only after ensuring the sump is flat and all the bolts are clean.

    There are a few spots that take a dab of sealant on the outer side to ensure a proper seal as the sump and block are dissimilar metals and expand at different rates.
    What type of sealant should be used there?

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    threebond 1217 or equivalent FIPG (form in place gasket), bathroom grade RTV will cause problems as it cannot compress properly. The points to apply are the edges of the crescent
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