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    Aoa.
    so here it goes I went to Honda Classic for routine maintenance of my Civic 2008 as usual and came back home with a bigger and annoying problem.

    Steering Rack and Steering pump is leaking!.

    I asked about the solution of this problem from Honda people and the servicemen said with smiling face
    "Sir 1 lakh se uuper ka kharcha hay yeh".

    Whole damn steering assembly needs to be replaced as per Honda people. I was like WTH? Can't it be repaired?
    I already had got the steering feed pipe replaced free of cost at 60k kms but now this problem has popped up from nowhere. Car is 90k km driven and totally Honda maintained.

    @Xulfiqar Sir please suggest what should I do in this situation? Others are also welcomed to share their opinion regarding this issue.
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    p.s : Steering doesn't make any kind of sound while turning. No chirping/clucking noise at all. It's all perfect and working but this damn thing is leaking.

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    Replace the seals only. It will cost you nearly 8k. Its a complete 1 day job
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    i had the same problem with the car and got if fixed from honda city sales. Please PM me your contact number i will guide the whole thing. It is very difficult to write here. Total cost was 14 to 16K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manobilla16 View Post
    i had the same problem with the car and got if fixed from honda city sales. Please PM me your contact number i will guide the whole thing. It is very difficult to write here. Total cost was 14 to 16K.
    Pm'd you sir. 16k seems reasonable

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    Quote Originally Posted by waqar19 View Post
    Replace the seals only. It will cost you nearly 8k. Its a complete 1 day job
    Is it a reliable option?
    I talked to my mechanic on my way back and He advised to swap kabli steering assembly. I guess that would also cost near 50k or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sk_KingpiN View Post
    Is it a reliable option?
    I talked to my mechanic on my way back and He advised to swap kabli steering assembly. I guess that would also cost near 50k or so.
    Brother they r all ripping you off.

    Its manufacturing fault in all Civics including local made Prosmatec shapes power steering pump is very fragile. That is why many people prefer EPS of City and Corolla.

    You can keep using if it does not effect drive since there is nothing electrical like alternator etc beneath in Reborn but eventually you have to replace it because it will make 'KRR KRR' sound.

    Now good news is that complete power steering motor is available here for 8K Japanese. For steering rack you have to go to Kabar available for 2-3K in Shershah as good as new. kabli power steering motor is also available for 2-3K. Used in 2 Reborns and sold the cars still working good and owners are happy.

    The real job is to find a good mechanic / suspension specialist to do a proper fitting its a precise job and needs full day. Labour is not more than 4-5K if you will have your own parts.

    Let me know if u need any.

    Were u using non Honda PS fluid ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bradpit View Post
    Brother they r all ripping you off.

    Its manufacturing fault in all Civics including local made Prosmatec shapes power steering pump is very fragile. That is why many people prefer EPS of City and Corolla.

    You can keep using if it does not effect drive since there is nothing electrical like alternator etc beneath in Reborn but eventually you have to replace it because it will make 'KRR KRR' sound.

    Now good news is that complete power steering motor is available here for 8K Japanese. For steering rack you have to go to Kabar available for 2-3K in Shershah as good as new. kabli power steering motor is also available for 2-3K. Used in 2 Reborns and sold the cars still working good and owners are happy.

    The real job is to find a good mechanic / suspension specialist to do a proper fitting its a precise job and needs full day. Labour is not more than 4-5K if you will have your own parts.

    Let me know if u need any.

    Were u using non Honda PS fluid ?
    Thanks a lot for your kind gesture sir. Your reply made me feel comfortable up to some extant. No, I was using Genuine Honda PS fluid replaced at 80k km inspection.
    so it means that If I go for kabuli stuff. It will max cost me 10k? One more member here pm'd me the whole procedure for replacing seals and O rings of Steering assembly which will cost around 16k.
    Till now. Car is running fine with no sound from steering etc. Drove it to Margalla hills today and car behaved perfectly fine. No steering issues.
    What do you suggest? Replacing seals/ O rings is a better idea or should I go for kabuli stuff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sk_KingpiN View Post
    Thanks a lot for your kind gesture sir. Your reply made me feel comfortable up to some extant. No, I was using Genuine Honda PS fluid replaced at 80k km inspection.
    so it means that If I go for kabuli stuff. It will max cost me 10k? One more member here pm'd me the whole procedure for replacing seals and O rings of Steering assembly which will cost around 16k.
    Till now. Car is running fine with no sound from steering etc. Drove it to Margalla hills today and car behaved perfectly fine. No steering issues.
    What do you suggest? Replacing seals/ O rings is a better idea or should I go for kabuli stuff?
    sIR THE PROBLEM IS THAT you have no guarantee that the power steering motor will not fail in future since its leaking replacing seals etc s labour full job and seals would not cost more than 4-5K but the real time and cost is required for labour fee.

    First inspect what is faulty 90% of the time power steering motors are faulty in 2006-08 Reborns and rack is fine. I inquired yesterday power steering motor genuine OEM is 30K from Honda dealership and steering rack is 45K (insane). There is one Indonesian motor available for 18K and the 8K ones I mentioned above from China. Kabli also works fine for years and no problem just buy from a trusted guy.

    I suggest you change both pump and rack if faulty or whichever is faulty and also replace the seals O rings also check the power steering pipes the larger one and smaller one for leaks.

    Most probably if the car is driving fine with no play and hardness in steering there are no steering rack problems.

    if u need any stuff tell me.
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    Mre gari ky stering ko zor lgana parta hy. Turn krty waqt bro gari 60000km chal chuki hy stering oil b chng kia honda center sy par farq ni prha

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashfaq124 View Post
    Mre gari ky stering ko zor lgana parta hy. Turn krty waqt bro gari 60000km chal chuki hy stering oil b chng kia honda center sy par farq ni prha
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    I think your rack and pump are fine.

    I believe that the pipes are leaking. Replace the power steering pipes and the leak will go away.

    They dont usually fail this quick. If the leak really is in the rack, then i think that some *** hammered your rack by mistake or on purpose.
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    That's such a bad leak! Make sure its the whole system not just a pipe, because its a damn strong component. Even if it is leaking, a seal may have failed which can totally be replaced.

    Still I am not of the view that the whole hydraulic system can go dead like this, because my 10 years old Exi with 180k on the ODO burst the main pipe due to excessive pressure, the seals in the rack and pump STILL didn't fail.

    I suggest you get the hydraulic feed system examined first, its quite common in 2008 and earlier 8th Gen models.
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    I had the same issue in my 2006 civic reborn oriel. It was working fine but one day back in 2012 i took the car to honda isb service centre for regular maintenance at 40,000 kms and they had a sign board displaying free replacement of power steering pipe due to some issue that could show up.
    I made the mistake of getting that free replacement and shortly after wards saw oil drops everyday under car. Took the car back at least 4 times to them. Each time they claimed to fix some loose pipe clip or nut but there would still be a drop or two of power steering oil under the car the next day. The senior mechanic at honda isb said i would have to replace the entire power steering pump and i knew they didn't know what they were talking about.
    Got really disappointed and sold it off the same year.
    Moral of the story: If it ain't broke don't fix it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saadkhangul View Post
    I think your rack and pump are fine.

    I believe that the pipes are leaking. Replace the power steering pipes and the leak will go away.

    They dont usually fail this quick. If the leak really is in the rack, then i think that some *** hammered your rack by mistake or on purpose.
    I will give it a try. For now car is working fine and oil level is also not dropping. I'm surprised. There is a leak but oil level in bottle is fine :|
    Car is totally Honda maintained and I stand on their heads when they are working on my car.

    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    That's such a bad leak! Make sure its the whole system not just a pipe, because its a damn strong component. Even if it is leaking, a seal may have failed which can totally be replaced.

    Still I am not of the view that the whole hydraulic system can go dead like this, because my 10 years old Exi with 180k on the ODO burst the main pipe due to excessive pressure, the seals in the rack and pump STILL didn't fail.

    I suggest you get the hydraulic feed system examined first, its quite common in 2008 and earlier 8th Gen models.
    Bro Feed system is fine as I had got the feed pipe replaced nearly 10k kms before. I'm also thinking that it is only seals problem. Nothing else as steering is working totally fine. No sound or hardness etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by hzulfiqar View Post
    I had the same issue in my 2006 civic reborn oriel. It was working fine but one day back in 2012 i took the car to honda isb service centre for regular maintenance at 40,000 kms and they had a sign board displaying free replacement of power steering pipe due to some issue that could show up.
    I made the mistake of getting that free replacement and shortly after wards saw oil drops everyday under car. Took the car back at least 4 times to them. Each time they claimed to fix some loose pipe clip or nut but there would still be a drop or two of power steering oil under the car the next day. The senior mechanic at honda isb said i would have to replace the entire power steering pump and i knew they didn't know what they were talking about.
    Got really disappointed and sold it off the same year.
    Moral of the story: If it ain't broke don't fix it.
    Now I get it. I did the same mistake as yours. My car was working fine but I got the feed pipe replaced. Damn this.
    Kher I won't be selling my car as its my daily runner and car is in pretty good shape. I'm only worried that my car at least covers 100km a day and often goes on 1000km+ long route drive. kahin raastay mein kharri na hojaye.

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    Today I got it inspected again from Honda Classic people and inquired about seals replacement. They said they can do this job but it will last 6 months max. I was like what the hell is this? You people are going to charge me over 1 lac just to replace this damn thing which is a factory fault? On weekend I will pay a visit to Honda centre peshawar road and will ask what they suggest about this issue.
    Otherwise I'd simply throw this **** out and will go for kabuli assembly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bradpit View Post
    sIR THE PROBLEM IS THAT you have no guarantee that the power steering motor will not fail in future since its leaking replacing seals etc s labour full job and seals would not cost more than 4-5K but the real time and cost is required for labour fee.

    First inspect what is faulty 90% of the time power steering motors are faulty in 2006-08 Reborns and rack is fine. I inquired yesterday power steering motor genuine OEM is 30K from Honda dealership and steering rack is 45K (insane). There is one Indonesian motor available for 18K and the 8K ones I mentioned above from China. Kabli also works fine for years and no problem just buy from a trusted guy.

    I suggest you change both pump and rack if faulty or whichever is faulty and also replace the seals O rings also check the power steering pipes the larger one and smaller one for leaks.

    Most probably if the car is driving fine with no play and hardness in steering there are no steering rack problems.

    if u need any stuff tell me.
    I got your point and yes car is totally driving fine with no play and hardness in steering. Honda people told me that steering rack is also leaking. Sure sir I will ask you If I needed anything.
    So I should replace seals of steering rack and replace steering pump? I guess that would be fine instead of replacing steering rack as there is no play and hardness in steering.

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    Help! Honda Civic 2008 Steering assembly issue -1346676

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    Quote Originally Posted by manobilla16 View Post
    Help! Honda Civic 2008 Steering assembly issue -1346676
    i have uploaded the power pump for UH6 aka reborn and have highlighted the bolts that would be opened. they will open 4 bolts and will replace the O rings.. mine has been working fine for last 2 years and no issue is found. i also inspect on weekly basis benath the car for any leaks. the new pump will cost you 27K,

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    Quote Originally Posted by manobilla16 View Post
    i have uploaded the power pump for UH6 aka reborn and have highlighted the bolts that would be opened. they will open 4 bolts and will replace the O rings.. mine has been working fine for last 2 years and no issue is found. i also inspect on weekly basis benath the car for any leaks. the new pump will cost you 27K,
    Got it brother and thank you very very much for guiding me the solution of this annoying issue. I have taken appointment from Honda centre people and will show them my car on friday Insha Allah.

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