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    Default Honda Civic 1997 VTi Engine Job ( over heating reducing oil) suggestions

    I have a civic vti which is suffering from over heating. The needle goes up to the redline and stays there if i drive normally but when I decelerate or go down hill the needle come back down( eg when going down hill in the salt range the needle comes back to normal. The engine never had a head job or gasket change. I changed the radiator to double nali desi one some 5 years ago.
    I am getting oil in the radiator as well, burning a plug of one cylinder and oil reduction but the car is still half self start.

    I am going to get some things done this weekend from a mechanic in Faisalabad EId Gah road as he always had figured out problems of my Honda but in a desi way. Had a bad experience with Honda pit stop the couldn't even fit a side view mirror properly . Would have got it done from Lahore but the car cant travel that far now L


    1. Head gasket replacement
    2. A ring and valve seals job depending upon the damage done to the engine
    3. Water body replacement
    4. New timing belt
    5. New radiator
    6. New silencer as the old one may have clogged with oil.


    Any suggestions and information about any other good mechanics will be appreciated.


    DAY 1 : The weather was quite ideal for spending a day at the work shop. The engine was opened up and was taken out for complete over haul.
    After inspecting the cylinders the mechanic said that a simple gasket change will not do the job the block needs work to be done and needs to be taken out or the other option is get it swapped he gave me both options. I gambled with the overhaul.30- 40 k might go down the drain but I am mentally prepared for that. The block was taken to the kharadia. Came back at 3 the mechanic said he will inspect the engine in detail and tell me about the parts to be replaced by tomorrow.


    DAY 2.. Went to buy the parts
    bought will be assembled today by kharadia and again by mechanic tomorrow
    1.Pistons
    2.Rings
    3.Valve set
    4. Clutch Plate
    5.Misc. Bearings
    6.Timing belt
    7.HeadGaskit
    Costed me 22 k.

    Total expenditure till now 22k+4000 khardia+3 for kabli piping and junkyard items=29


    DAY: 3 The engine block is ready and in the Engine bay.The head will be places tomorrow. Got a new water Pump today worth 2400 that makes the total expenditure till now 29000+2400=31400


    DAY: 4 The overhaul was eventually completed today. Got the double Nali DEnSO/HONDA Radiator. A set of belts. Total Spent on the radiator 5000 and belts 600 and some nuts and bolts 200=5800 ,Oil and fluids,coolants 3200, miscellaneous 2000
    The total Spent on Parts 31400+5800+3200=2000=42400+8000 Mechanic Labor=50400 Rs for the engine over haul

    DAY: 5 Today I got the some sounds resolved that were coming from the driver side wheel.
    Got new
    Disc Pads whole set , Goda Boot,steering boot,Chimta bush, Discs Facing,end repair, Ball joint repair,front brake cylinder kabli,break oil
    This wheel job costed Rs 6540.

    Got a new silencer worth 2200, Wheel alignment Rs 150
    Total spent today 6540+2200=150= 8790
    Total Spent during 5 days =50400+8790=RS 59190
    1.Pistons
    2.Rings
    3.Valve set
    4. Clutch Plate
    5.Misc. Bearings
    6.Timing belt
    7.HeadGaskit
    8.water Pump
    9. Ball joint
    10. 3 pump belts belts
    11. Radiator
    12. Pipping
    13.O rings
    14. Break Pads
    15. Silencer
    OVERHAUL COMPLETED Thanks GOD Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job  ( over heating reducing oil) suggestions - smiley smile I pray that it stays this way . It's the first 5 minutes of running time that can wipe out a new cam. The other 15 minutes is just insurance. Lets see what it does in the future Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job   over heating reducing oil suggestions -1403440
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    thats pure bad luck...
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    Hmm sanda can be a great monogram for some engine lubricant of the sub continent btw

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    It would be great as a hood emblem, jaguars have an emblem which looks like a running jaguar and your honda would have a sanda :p
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    A sanda vinyl :-) will be a good idea all ready seen reptile vinyls

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    woh that sounds too bad!

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    was a bit too lazy to post the pictures after going through hundreds of them of the rebuild after spending all the day at the workshop so just wanted to share them now
    The engine upside down on DAY-3

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    Day-3 Flywheel being atached
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    DAY-4 Valve system getting finalized
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    The old Headgasket Replaced it with a Honda genuine one ( identical) the mechanic did not apply any gasket sealant it was bit of a surprise for me asked him he told me no need of sealant because its metal gasket. Goggled it and found that he was right
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    UPDATE
    5 K done no over heats no stalls no lack of power no leaks , milage 14- 15 km /l with chilling ac. Coolant level same ( since i changed it) didnt had to top up caltex coolant is good it doesn't evaporate. Drove it continuously between bw 140 -160km/h on the motorway no problems or funny smells or sounds. Reved it hard going up hill kallar kahar just to check no problems at all felt torque all the way up hill.
    Will get the oil changed soon its colorstill yellowish.The mechanic did a good job I was scared that it wouldn't even do a 1000 km after reading the scary comments here . Honda VTEC Overhauls are not always bad as perceived by people.

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    Well you can't rule out the facts. Shaving the head will leave you with changed timing. Anyhow its good to see first happy engine overhaul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afnan.bashir View Post
    Well you can't rule out the facts. Shaving the head will leave you with changed timing. Anyhow its good to see first happy engine overhaul.

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    but it didn't had that much effect on mileage and performance. even new cars have non factory timing when they get cnged. there is always troom for improvement thats for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by janleva View Post
    but it didn't had that much effect on mileage and performance. even new cars have non factory timing when they get cnged. there is always troom for improvement thats for sure.
    by timing afnan means the compression timing - your overall block and head height is now shorter which will cause the cam to have retard timing. If your mechanic shaved the pistons your ring land to top clearance is now shorter which can cause serious carboning on the ring lands unless you use a full synthetic oil

    You may have never experienced it but I have seen it a number of times.
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    if it is wrong to shave the head, then what is the correct way
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    Quote Originally Posted by margallar View Post
    if it is wrong to shave the head, then what is the correct way
    the head can only be shaved very slightly if only the cam line bore is not out of true, Even then for metal gasket engines you require a finish of 50RA or better which means really shiny - you can achieve that with 800 wet and dry paper on a 1/2 inch glass sheet.

    The old paper gasket engines require a rougher finish to have some tooth in it so it can actually bite the gasket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job   over heating reducing oil suggestions -1424734
    dont know about them specifically but the did wash the block , didnt use any sealant for the oil pan used a rubber gaskit.
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