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    I have a civic vti which is suffering from over heating. The needle goes up to the redline and stays there if i drive normally but when I decelerate or go down hill the needle come back down( eg when going down hill in the salt range the needle comes back to normal. The engine never had a head job or gasket change. I changed the radiator to double nali desi one some 5 years ago.
    I am getting oil in the radiator as well, burning a plug of one cylinder and oil reduction but the car is still half self start.

    I am going to get some things done this weekend from a mechanic in Faisalabad EId Gah road as he always had figured out problems of my Honda but in a desi way. Had a bad experience with Honda pit stop the couldn't even fit a side view mirror properly . Would have got it done from Lahore but the car cant travel that far now L


    1. Head gasket replacement
    2. A ring and valve seals job depending upon the damage done to the engine
    3. Water body replacement
    4. New timing belt
    5. New radiator
    6. New silencer as the old one may have clogged with oil.


    Any suggestions and information about any other good mechanics will be appreciated.


    DAY 1 : The weather was quite ideal for spending a day at the work shop. The engine was opened up and was taken out for complete over haul.
    After inspecting the cylinders the mechanic said that a simple gasket change will not do the job the block needs work to be done and needs to be taken out or the other option is get it swapped he gave me both options. I gambled with the overhaul.30- 40 k might go down the drain but I am mentally prepared for that. The block was taken to the kharadia. Came back at 3 the mechanic said he will inspect the engine in detail and tell me about the parts to be replaced by tomorrow.


    DAY 2.. Went to buy the parts
    bought will be assembled today by kharadia and again by mechanic tomorrow
    1.Pistons
    2.Rings
    3.Valve set
    4. Clutch Plate
    5.Misc. Bearings
    6.Timing belt
    7.HeadGaskit
    Costed me 22 k.

    Total expenditure till now 22k+4000 khardia+3 for kabli piping and junkyard items=29


    DAY: 3 The engine block is ready and in the Engine bay.The head will be places tomorrow. Got a new water Pump today worth 2400 that makes the total expenditure till now 29000+2400=31400


    DAY: 4 The overhaul was eventually completed today. Got the double Nali DEnSO/HONDA Radiator. A set of belts. Total Spent on the radiator 5000 and belts 600 and some nuts and bolts 200=5800 ,Oil and fluids,coolants 3200, miscellaneous 2000
    The total Spent on Parts 31400+5800+3200=2000=42400+8000 Mechanic Labor=50400 Rs for the engine over haul

    DAY: 5 Today I got the some sounds resolved that were coming from the driver side wheel.
    Got new
    Disc Pads whole set , Goda Boot,steering boot,Chimta bush, Discs Facing,end repair, Ball joint repair,front brake cylinder kabli,break oil
    This wheel job costed Rs 6540.

    Got a new silencer worth 2200, Wheel alignment Rs 150
    Total spent today 6540+2200=150= 8790
    Total Spent during 5 days =50400+8790=RS 59190
    1.Pistons
    2.Rings
    3.Valve set
    4. Clutch Plate
    5.Misc. Bearings
    6.Timing belt
    7.HeadGaskit
    8.water Pump
    9. Ball joint
    10. 3 pump belts belts
    11. Radiator
    12. Pipping
    13.O rings
    14. Break Pads
    15. Silencer
    OVERHAUL COMPLETED Thanks GOD Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job  ( over heating reducing oil) suggestions - smiley smile I pray that it stays this way . It's the first 5 minutes of running time that can wipe out a new cam. The other 15 minutes is just insurance. Lets see what it does in the future Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job   over heating reducing oil suggestions -1403440
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    Quote Originally Posted by rj212 View Post
    Yup that's right. If I was you I'd do the swap for b18 tbh less hassle and straight job with no fixing....
    B18....You Must Be Joking Right....! LOL
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    I have a 96 Exi the original engine has done over 260,000km and its still going strong. I am pretty sure 80% of Honda engines die because of a neglected cooling system. They ever live to see their true potential.

    My car overheated once only about 10 years back. At that point the mechanic recommended putting the fan on auto, removing thermostat valve and replacing coolant with plain water. I did not listen to him, I got it fixed according to the book. These jugaars are what kill 80% of Honda engines. They mask the problem instead of solving it and pretty soon the problem comes back to haunt you.

    If you don't let the Honda engine overheat and change oil at timely intervals, the Honda engine is going to cost you almost nothing in terms of maintenance.
    Never argue with an idiot, they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janleva View Post
    the first time it got over heated but stayed below the red line was when its radiator needed service the seccond time when it over heated it had leaking hoses fixing them and a new radiator solved the issue for about 4 years. After the first over heating it developed starting problems whenever the car even had a normal driving when the engine was warm. The mechanic told me that these hondas self starter gets farig after heat ups usually, So he installed some kabli one for 1100 rs which sounds heavy( like a a truck self ) but the car didnt had any starting problems after that still half self start. Some other mechanics that i queried before for that problem said that its sensors are bad, engine farig hai, kholian *** to pata chalay ga bka bla bla. I am keeping my fingers crossed this time aswell will see what type of mess the cars engine is into this time this wekedend.
    Take Your Time.......Think Over It Before Wasting Time With KHOTA Mechanics.......A Compression Tester Is Your Friend ...Check Compression.....Also Do Radiator Pressure Test For Detecting Leaking And Possible Leak In COmp.Chamber....! It Will Tell You 99% Results Than These Mechanics Do By Wasting Time For NOTHING And ZEROO Results...

    If Everything Seems Ok...replace Oil Seals.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SER_GTR View Post
    B18....You Must Be Joking Right....! LOL
    Didn't know I was a joker too? Lol what's with B18??? mate of mine has his civic coupe 97 kitted up with B18 de cat straight through pipes 260b on the wheels

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    M pretty much happy with a d16y6..if i could find one ..if the engine is beyond repair

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    Quote Originally Posted by rj212 View Post
    Didn't know I was a joker too? Lol what's with B18??? mate of mine has his civic coupe 97 kitted up with B18 de cat straight through pipes 260b on the wheels
    D16 And B18......Mate He's Upto Maintaining A Daily Driver Car.....Not Upto Burning Rubber Late Night... The Cost Of Swapping B18 And Finding One Is A Story In Itself....!
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangel View Post
    I have a 96 Exi the original engine has done over 260,000km and its still going strong. I am pretty sure 80% of Honda engines die because of a neglected cooling system. They ever live to see their true potential.

    My car overheated once only about 10 years back. At that point the mechanic recommended putting the fan on auto, removing thermostat valve and replacing coolant with plain water. I did not listen to him, I got it fixed according to the book. These jugaars are what kill 80% of Honda engines. They mask the problem instead of solving it and pretty soon the problem comes back to haunt you.

    If you don't let the Honda engine overheat and change oil at timely intervals, the Honda engine is going to cost you almost nothing in terms of maintenance.
    You bought that zero meter ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SER_GTR View Post
    D16 And B18......Mate He's Upto Maintaining A Daily Driver Car.....Not Upto Burning Rubber Late Night... The Cost Of Swapping B18 And Finding One Is A Story In Itself....!
    Well I don't what the story is in Pakistan but I'm sure if you wanna spend 1000s of quid on repairing an engine might as well buy an engine.. We don't fix engines in ireland at all we just go for swaps coz labour for fixing engine is more than the engines cost.. Anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2468 View Post
    You bought that zero meter ?
    I bought it in 2002 when it had about 90k on the odometer.
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    @rj212 its an exi vtecs are a bit complex i guess that causes more problems after 150 k

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    Quote Originally Posted by janleva View Post
    @rj212 its an exi vtecs are a bit complex i guess that causes more problems after 150 k

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    Any petrol engine will act muppet after that mileage lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangel View Post
    I bought it in 2002 when it had about 90k on the odometer.

    You are a wise guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rj212 View Post
    Any petrol engine will act muppet after that mileage lol

    true only for old BL made engines
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    Quote Originally Posted by rj212 View Post
    Well I don't what the story is in Pakistan but I'm sure if you wanna spend 1000s of quid on repairing an engine might as well buy an engine.. We don't fix engines in ireland at all we just go for swaps coz labour for fixing engine is more than the engines cost.. Anyway

    Story in Pakistan is that the mechanics will surely be happy to take your money and stick and engine in the bay, They wont entertain you when it falters or exhibits faults because "the owner" wanted it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rj212 View Post
    Any petrol engine will act muppet after that mileage lol
    Sorry yar. i had a 2002 civic. totally stock only had 4tip bosch spark plugs.

    i ran it till 2009 when had an accident n wrecked it by that time it had 175000kms on it.

    it was always maintained by honda fort in lahore and it was a very strong car. pulled remarkably but dint have CNG.

    150K per yeh haal hona may mean neglected maintenance.

    as for Janleva.
    i would suggest get an engine from a half cut car and put the same model engine in ur car.
    that is the best way and do get it checked by a trustable and knowledgeable mechanic.

    i had an 88 corolla. dad imported it for himself in 1992. we had it till 2013. we changed the engine 3 times n the car had run about 800000 with three engines.

    as per my knowledge engine overhaul is mostly unsuccessful and takes a long time.

    i got my 88's engine swapped in 7 days everytime. the third time one engine mount had to be changed even then it took 7 days which included old buttons connection with 2000 model corolla engine wiring, mount change and the swap.

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    Its 243 to be exact not 150k and was driven on cng for about 3 years
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    Chalo n'a twade n'a Sade 250 laga lavo.

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    well its fate will be decided tomorrow when it gets opened up .. repair or swap... my fingers are crossed... and feeling a bit of anxiety plus a heavy heart.
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    managed to find the service manual of this civic just for keeping track of work and seeing every thing is at its right place or not.
    here the link


    http://ge.tt/api/1/files/2VhT2XK/0/blob?download
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    At the work shop the engine is being dismentelled

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