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    I have a civic vti which is suffering from over heating. The needle goes up to the redline and stays there if i drive normally but when I decelerate or go down hill the needle come back down( eg when going down hill in the salt range the needle comes back to normal. The engine never had a head job or gasket change. I changed the radiator to double nali desi one some 5 years ago.
    I am getting oil in the radiator as well, burning a plug of one cylinder and oil reduction but the car is still half self start.

    I am going to get some things done this weekend from a mechanic in Faisalabad EId Gah road as he always had figured out problems of my Honda but in a desi way. Had a bad experience with Honda pit stop the couldn't even fit a side view mirror properly . Would have got it done from Lahore but the car cant travel that far now L


    1. Head gasket replacement
    2. A ring and valve seals job depending upon the damage done to the engine
    3. Water body replacement
    4. New timing belt
    5. New radiator
    6. New silencer as the old one may have clogged with oil.


    Any suggestions and information about any other good mechanics will be appreciated.


    DAY 1 : The weather was quite ideal for spending a day at the work shop. The engine was opened up and was taken out for complete over haul.
    After inspecting the cylinders the mechanic said that a simple gasket change will not do the job the block needs work to be done and needs to be taken out or the other option is get it swapped he gave me both options. I gambled with the overhaul.30- 40 k might go down the drain but I am mentally prepared for that. The block was taken to the kharadia. Came back at 3 the mechanic said he will inspect the engine in detail and tell me about the parts to be replaced by tomorrow.


    DAY 2.. Went to buy the parts
    bought will be assembled today by kharadia and again by mechanic tomorrow
    1.Pistons
    2.Rings
    3.Valve set
    4. Clutch Plate
    5.Misc. Bearings
    6.Timing belt
    7.HeadGaskit
    Costed me 22 k.

    Total expenditure till now 22k+4000 khardia+3 for kabli piping and junkyard items=29


    DAY: 3 The engine block is ready and in the Engine bay.The head will be places tomorrow. Got a new water Pump today worth 2400 that makes the total expenditure till now 29000+2400=31400


    DAY: 4 The overhaul was eventually completed today. Got the double Nali DEnSO/HONDA Radiator. A set of belts. Total Spent on the radiator 5000 and belts 600 and some nuts and bolts 200=5800 ,Oil and fluids,coolants 3200, miscellaneous 2000
    The total Spent on Parts 31400+5800+3200=2000=42400+8000 Mechanic Labor=50400 Rs for the engine over haul

    DAY: 5 Today I got the some sounds resolved that were coming from the driver side wheel.
    Got new
    Disc Pads whole set , Goda Boot,steering boot,Chimta bush, Discs Facing,end repair, Ball joint repair,front brake cylinder kabli,break oil
    This wheel job costed Rs 6540.

    Got a new silencer worth 2200, Wheel alignment Rs 150
    Total spent today 6540+2200=150= 8790
    Total Spent during 5 days =50400+8790=RS 59190
    1.Pistons
    2.Rings
    3.Valve set
    4. Clutch Plate
    5.Misc. Bearings
    6.Timing belt
    7.HeadGaskit
    8.water Pump
    9. Ball joint
    10. 3 pump belts belts
    11. Radiator
    12. Pipping
    13.O rings
    14. Break Pads
    15. Silencer
    OVERHAUL COMPLETED Thanks GOD Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job  ( over heating reducing oil) suggestions - smiley smile I pray that it stays this way . It's the first 5 minutes of running time that can wipe out a new cam. The other 15 minutes is just insurance. Lets see what it does in the future Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job   over heating reducing oil suggestions -1403440
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    which engine oil should I use after the over haul of which viscosity
    which coolant should I use
    which gear oil
    Spark plugs were of two types long chordi short chordi for the same engine.
    Past cant be brought back ..but future can be made even better than the Past..if one wants to.. ....

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    Let's hope overhaul should work perfectly in future. When I had civic 97, I used following items and had no problem at with these items:

    Engine Oil: Shell Helix ultra fully synthetic (black box). This is one of the best engine oil I ever faced, its give awesome mileage round about 14-15km/l in city.

    Coolant: Always use Genuine Honda long life coolant.

    Geal Oil: Always use Genuine Honda Gear oil. No compromise on it!!!!!!!

    Spark Plugs: I always used Brand New NGN Platinum plugs that cost me round about 4k. One of the best Plug I ever used in my civic. You can use Laser as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by janleva View Post
    which engine oil should I use after the over haul of which viscosity
    which coolant should I use
    which gear oil
    Spark plugs were of two types long chordi short chordi for the same engine.
    For engine oil go for havoline formula 10w30 for breaking in. After 1000km switch to any good synthetic oil.
    Use Caltex or Honda coolant. Dont even think about any of Osaka/nasa crap coolants.
    Use Honda MTF if affordable. Else go for any brand of transmission fluid by GS Oil.
    Use iridiums if affordable, else go for simple NGK spark plug. I think this engine does not use long chorri spark plugs. That is for corolla.
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    Quote Originally Posted by galant1 View Post
    NGN Platinum plugs that cost me round about 4k.
    Are you sure ? platinums are a lot cheaper than that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saadkhangul View Post
    For engine oil go for havoline formula 10w30 for breaking in. After 1000km switch to any good synthetic oil.
    Use Caltex or Honda coolant. Dont even think about any of Osaka/nasa crap coolants.
    Use Honda MTF if affordable. Else go for any brand of transmission fluid by GS Oil.
    Use iridiums if affordable, else go for simple NGK spark plug. I think this engine does not use long chorri spark plugs. That is for corolla.
    THANKS Saad
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    Bro I didn't remember correct figures. I Bought those plugs 1-year ago. Either it was 2.5k or 3.5k.

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    nice going..
    Just Do It Your Self!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by janleva View Post
    THANKS Saad
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    Yai gari ab rakhnay wali nae.u wld feel performance drop after rebuild.n u can double check from compression guage

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    Lets hope for the best at least it will not be in that pressure cooker state i drive with a light foot hardly touch 3k rpm in the city :-)..

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    Na i wud not agree with those who say it will not be as good as a swap, i had done overhaulin my cultus engine year back and never ever felt any performance decrease or any other fault other than gasket problem but that was by my own mistake i forgot putting back radiator cap after checking water level :p
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    Quote Originally Posted by hash4u View Post
    Yai gari ab rakhnay wali nae.u wld feel performance drop after rebuild.n u can double check from compression guage

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    sir g a proper overhaulin can be good as swapping new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suzukialtomehran View Post
    sir g a proper overhaulin can be good as swapping new one.
    Can be but haven't seen any success story yet in my experience. Do you think mechanics who even don't know the proper valve clearence setting for each car can handle precise work like rebuilding whole engine to company specs?

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    Every thing will be clear :-) in just a matter of time. Who knows how many timea a swapes engine was rebuilt and its previous history.. risks are involved in swaping as well

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    Company specs :-) we use a feul that is not reccomended at all in company specs...eg CNG..:-)..

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    Quote Originally Posted by janleva View Post
    Company specs :-) we use a feul that is not reccomended at all in company specs...eg CNG..:-)..

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    Any updates from workshop ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by janleva View Post
    which engine oil should I use after the over haul of which viscosity
    which coolant should I use
    which gear oil
    Spark plugs were of two types long chordi short chordi for the same engine.
    DO NOT USE A THICK OIL.

    All car and oil manufacturers recommend 5W-30 for new cars not 10W-30.

    As i see it u should have gone with a nosecut. a good mechanic can check it and if he cant i doubt it that he will be able to overhall it aswell.

    Ask @Xulfiqar @Xulfiqar he is an expert on cars.

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    Day 4 back home saw the block get assembled bought a new water pump today used shell helix yellow one...head will be placed tomorrow and the wiring will be done

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    Quote Originally Posted by janleva View Post
    Day 4 back home saw the block get assembled bought a new water pump today used shell helix yellow one...head will be placed tomorrow and the wiring will be done

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    Why wiring ? by wiring you mean pluging the connectors i guess

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    Tomorrow will be the finale :-) the mechanic is taking his time and the work shop is very busy

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