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    I have a civic vti which is suffering from over heating. The needle goes up to the redline and stays there if i drive normally but when I decelerate or go down hill the needle come back down( eg when going down hill in the salt range the needle comes back to normal. The engine never had a head job or gasket change. I changed the radiator to double nali desi one some 5 years ago.
    I am getting oil in the radiator as well, burning a plug of one cylinder and oil reduction but the car is still half self start.

    I am going to get some things done this weekend from a mechanic in Faisalabad EId Gah road as he always had figured out problems of my Honda but in a desi way. Had a bad experience with Honda pit stop the couldn't even fit a side view mirror properly . Would have got it done from Lahore but the car cant travel that far now L


    1. Head gasket replacement
    2. A ring and valve seals job depending upon the damage done to the engine
    3. Water body replacement
    4. New timing belt
    5. New radiator
    6. New silencer as the old one may have clogged with oil.


    Any suggestions and information about any other good mechanics will be appreciated.


    DAY 1 : The weather was quite ideal for spending a day at the work shop. The engine was opened up and was taken out for complete over haul.
    After inspecting the cylinders the mechanic said that a simple gasket change will not do the job the block needs work to be done and needs to be taken out or the other option is get it swapped he gave me both options. I gambled with the overhaul.30- 40 k might go down the drain but I am mentally prepared for that. The block was taken to the kharadia. Came back at 3 the mechanic said he will inspect the engine in detail and tell me about the parts to be replaced by tomorrow.


    DAY 2.. Went to buy the parts
    bought will be assembled today by kharadia and again by mechanic tomorrow
    1.Pistons
    2.Rings
    3.Valve set
    4. Clutch Plate
    5.Misc. Bearings
    6.Timing belt
    7.HeadGaskit
    Costed me 22 k.

    Total expenditure till now 22k+4000 khardia+3 for kabli piping and junkyard items=29


    DAY: 3 The engine block is ready and in the Engine bay.The head will be places tomorrow. Got a new water Pump today worth 2400 that makes the total expenditure till now 29000+2400=31400


    DAY: 4 The overhaul was eventually completed today. Got the double Nali DEnSO/HONDA Radiator. A set of belts. Total Spent on the radiator 5000 and belts 600 and some nuts and bolts 200=5800 ,Oil and fluids,coolants 3200, miscellaneous 2000
    The total Spent on Parts 31400+5800+3200=2000=42400+8000 Mechanic Labor=50400 Rs for the engine over haul

    DAY: 5 Today I got the some sounds resolved that were coming from the driver side wheel.
    Got new
    Disc Pads whole set , Goda Boot,steering boot,Chimta bush, Discs Facing,end repair, Ball joint repair,front brake cylinder kabli,break oil
    This wheel job costed Rs 6540.

    Got a new silencer worth 2200, Wheel alignment Rs 150
    Total spent today 6540+2200=150= 8790
    Total Spent during 5 days =50400+8790=RS 59190
    1.Pistons
    2.Rings
    3.Valve set
    4. Clutch Plate
    5.Misc. Bearings
    6.Timing belt
    7.HeadGaskit
    8.water Pump
    9. Ball joint
    10. 3 pump belts belts
    11. Radiator
    12. Pipping
    13.O rings
    14. Break Pads
    15. Silencer
    OVERHAUL COMPLETED Thanks GOD Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job  ( over heating reducing oil) suggestions - smiley smile I pray that it stays this way . It's the first 5 minutes of running time that can wipe out a new cam. The other 15 minutes is just insurance. Lets see what it does in the future Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job   over heating reducing oil suggestions -1403440
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    Quote Originally Posted by janleva View Post
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    Try clicjing on the image

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    No. It says invalid attachment. The ones posted on this page 7 are visible. The previous ones are not.
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    And please ask you mechanic to clean the block properly. Still a lot of grime is attached. Invest 200-300 in petrol/kerosene oil for cleaning if required.
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    They are visible on mu side :-( will try uploading from the cell

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    It was cleaned

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    your block is slightly more valuable than scrap now, I see that the machinist tried to fill some metal on the cylinder liners and then proceeded to shave down the block face. This is colossally stupid because now the pistons will sit above the block surface when they come to top.

    Your mechanic will now install a thicker (paper) gasket and then advise you to run with no thermostat valve and mota aail too. When such failures are seen the proper repair should be sought rather than trying to pinch money and then burn a bigger amount later on.
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    Nop got a metal gaskit and all ready had new thermostat :-) we will see how long it goes like this :-)

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    Not pinching money at least

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    He also took the pistons the machnist almost did the same with all the other engines at the shop seems its a usual affair for them to do that

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    I dont want to dis heart you buddy, but i am not satisfied with the quality of work being carried out. Seems like you fell prey to our infamous hathorra group. I think @Xulfiqar will also agree with me in this matter. But i still wish and hope that it turns out fine for you.
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    trying build up material and then shaving the block deck is not advisable by any extent in that engine - the sleeves are not replaceable items either. If Im assuming correct, the guy shaved the block deck and then also shaved the piston tops to lower them so they actually can sit in the cylinders and not stand proud.

    Not a situation I would like running in my engine.

    All the best... just hope this works, seems like a gone case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afnan.bashir View Post
    Can be but haven't seen any success story yet in my experience. Do you think mechanics who even don't know the proper valve clearence setting for each car can handle precise work like rebuilding whole engine to company specs?

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    Its a gamble the world is not going to end if it doesnt work :-) thats why iam not taking stress.it will be a lesson well taught or a good experience the mechanics at the honda pit shop cant fix a mirror properly with matching color nor could diagnose a burnt ac blower grip (were inisiting that it was a 25 k job) some times itS all about luck.

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    Sorry yar but i had to say this.

    DONT TRUST HONDA PIT STOP GO TO A GOOD RUNNING DEALERSHIP.

    pitstops are small local workshops converted to pit stops by honda atlas cars, i think.

    there is one in abpara market lahore n a friend's father got his car maintainted from it. it was a 2005 or 6 vti.

    i had a 2002 vti maintained entirely from honda fort queens road.

    both cars had substantial difference when the ran together in 2008. his car suked n mine was smooth.

    its about the mechanic n he knows **** or knows only ****.
    @Xulfiqar I heard from a person who knows cars a lot about cars that when overhalling an engine, block head should not be shaved or cleaned on a machine since it reduces height of the head and pistons go more towards the pistons than they should.
    is it wise to clean the head only with cleaning agents n not a machine?
    he says by reducing the height of head or block the engine sound changes n it overheats.
    what is ur take on this?

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    I dont know what has happened to the so called KHARADIA now a days.. I think that most of the workshops and kharadias are in contract that if you received any engine block or head you must of reface (shave it)... instead without checking and knowing that is there any need for refacing or not, and if needs refacing they shave it too much that any one them got bye bye, which only needs just only proper and minor sanding...

    we are in this business (means lathe business) from more than 3 decades, but never ever do a reface of either head or engine block in first attempt. some of mechanics came to our workshop and they immediately say that head or blocks needs refacing, but we said to them first we check it if it needs refacing we will do other wise no need of it... and after refacing we also try to put small size connecting rods so pistons cannot sit above the engine block or direct hit to head... and ALHAMDULILLAH we never ever received any complaint from owners... Even we give them guarantee also for the work done...

    In my seven years of stay in Pakistan for studies, I have seen many lathe workshop labor guys opened their own lathe workshop after left the workshop where they worked, and do a very pathetic job in very less amount. which results in creation of bad name and image of those lathe workshops which are experts and working since decades..
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    Quote Originally Posted by janleva View Post
    Its a gamble the world is not going to end if it doesnt work :-) thats why iam not taking stress.it will be a lesson well taught or a good experience the mechanics at the honda pit shop cant fix a mirror properly with matching color nor could diagnose a burnt ac blower grip (were inisiting that it was a 25 k job) some times itS all about luck.

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