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    I have a civic vti which is suffering from over heating. The needle goes up to the redline and stays there if i drive normally but when I decelerate or go down hill the needle come back down( eg when going down hill in the salt range the needle comes back to normal. The engine never had a head job or gasket change. I changed the radiator to double nali desi one some 5 years ago.
    I am getting oil in the radiator as well, burning a plug of one cylinder and oil reduction but the car is still half self start.

    I am going to get some things done this weekend from a mechanic in Faisalabad EId Gah road as he always had figured out problems of my Honda but in a desi way. Had a bad experience with Honda pit stop the couldn't even fit a side view mirror properly . Would have got it done from Lahore but the car cant travel that far now L


    1. Head gasket replacement
    2. A ring and valve seals job depending upon the damage done to the engine
    3. Water body replacement
    4. New timing belt
    5. New radiator
    6. New silencer as the old one may have clogged with oil.


    Any suggestions and information about any other good mechanics will be appreciated.


    DAY 1 : The weather was quite ideal for spending a day at the work shop. The engine was opened up and was taken out for complete over haul.
    After inspecting the cylinders the mechanic said that a simple gasket change will not do the job the block needs work to be done and needs to be taken out or the other option is get it swapped he gave me both options. I gambled with the overhaul.30- 40 k might go down the drain but I am mentally prepared for that. The block was taken to the kharadia. Came back at 3 the mechanic said he will inspect the engine in detail and tell me about the parts to be replaced by tomorrow.


    DAY 2.. Went to buy the parts
    bought will be assembled today by kharadia and again by mechanic tomorrow
    1.Pistons
    2.Rings
    3.Valve set
    4. Clutch Plate
    5.Misc. Bearings
    6.Timing belt
    7.HeadGaskit
    Costed me 22 k.

    Total expenditure till now 22k+4000 khardia+3 for kabli piping and junkyard items=29


    DAY: 3 The engine block is ready and in the Engine bay.The head will be places tomorrow. Got a new water Pump today worth 2400 that makes the total expenditure till now 29000+2400=31400


    DAY: 4 The overhaul was eventually completed today. Got the double Nali DEnSO/HONDA Radiator. A set of belts. Total Spent on the radiator 5000 and belts 600 and some nuts and bolts 200=5800 ,Oil and fluids,coolants 3200, miscellaneous 2000
    The total Spent on Parts 31400+5800+3200=2000=42400+8000 Mechanic Labor=50400 Rs for the engine over haul

    DAY: 5 Today I got the some sounds resolved that were coming from the driver side wheel.
    Got new
    Disc Pads whole set , Goda Boot,steering boot,Chimta bush, Discs Facing,end repair, Ball joint repair,front brake cylinder kabli,break oil
    This wheel job costed Rs 6540.

    Got a new silencer worth 2200, Wheel alignment Rs 150
    Total spent today 6540+2200=150= 8790
    Total Spent during 5 days =50400+8790=RS 59190
    1.Pistons
    2.Rings
    3.Valve set
    4. Clutch Plate
    5.Misc. Bearings
    6.Timing belt
    7.HeadGaskit
    8.water Pump
    9. Ball joint
    10. 3 pump belts belts
    11. Radiator
    12. Pipping
    13.O rings
    14. Break Pads
    15. Silencer
    OVERHAUL COMPLETED Thanks GOD Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job  ( over heating reducing oil) suggestions - smiley smile I pray that it stays this way . It's the first 5 minutes of running time that can wipe out a new cam. The other 15 minutes is just insurance. Lets see what it does in the future Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job   over heating reducing oil suggestions -1403440
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    Wasnt using cng for the past 5 years

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    The car again at the workshop for suspension job and installation of break pads and some bushes

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    no video or pics ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shuja11 View Post
    I think u should run the engine on idle for it to get smoother.

    i think u should start it up at home after evening when weather is colder and put a pedestal fan infront of the engine to keep it from overheating.

    i think its called idle running.

    which engine oil did u use?
    is the CNG still installed?

    That is the worst recommendation you can give someone, idling the engine with fresh rings will cause the cylinders to glaze out without load and cause low compression.
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    No pics for today will post the recept of todays work and parts didnt go for a major suspension work

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    The engine didnt leak a drop of oil till now :-)

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    Also got a new silencer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    That is the worst recommendation you can give someone, idling the engine with fresh rings will cause the cylinders to glaze out without load and cause low compression.
    Okay thanks for the learning.

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    DAY: 5 Today I got the some sounds resolved that were coming from the driver side wheel.
    Got new
    Disc Pads whole set , Goda Boot,steering boot,Chimta bush, Discs Facing,end repair, Ball joint repair,front brake cylinder kabli,break oil
    This wheel job costed Rs 6540.

    Got a new silencer worth 2200, Wheel alignment Rs 150
    Total spent today 6540+2200=150= 8790
    Total Spent during 5 days =50400+8790=RS 59190
    Past cant be brought back ..but future can be made even better than the Past..if one wants to.. ....

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    OVERHAUL COMPLETED Thanks GOD I pray that it stays this way . It's the first 5 minutes of running time that can wipe out a new cam. The other 15 minutes is just insurance. lets see what it does in the future

    Honda Civic 1997 VTi  Engine Job   over heating reducing oil suggestions -1403411 Will clean the bay with some engine bay cleaner and it will bling like new
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    Will give the final verdict of this over haul after 5000 Kms. It has done around 200 Km s at the moment. Thanks every body for your suggestions and comments.
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    To anyone reading

    when disassembling VTEC heads the vtec rockers are hand matched items from Honda, meaning you cannot mix up the VTEC rockers and their pistons with another set from the neighboring cylinder. Even the repair manual tells you that.

    They should be stored in separate baggies tied together with cable ties as even the little actuation pistons are precision items. If you dont pay attention to this detail you will have oil pressure or vtec cut in problems as some assemblies may stick or not work at the right time.
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    so keeping it or selling it?
    the way u spent on it(like i did), ur heart will not agree on selling it
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    Quote Originally Posted by hash4u View Post
    so keeping it or selling it?
    the way u spent on it(like i did), ur heart will not agree on selling it

    your absolutely right about that .. well now I am thinking of spending another 40 k for the suspension,Iinterior bumper repair paint and JDM lips as the bumper bumps alot interior...the mechanic also advised me to keep it and refrain from selling it as the body has not a single spot of rust( never ever serviced from a service station in its whole life) and the he said he gives warranty of the engine rebuild. I will be driving it on petrol so i guess it will have less issues in the future.I Saw many newer cars with problems like mine accords , 2010 model plus civics corollas with swapped/ rebuilt engines and rusted repainted bodies. Noticed many things like these that i spent at the workshop for 5 days and mechanics are not as bad and stupid as they are portrayed will tell my experience with the final verdict
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    Congratulations. Hope everything works out well for you.
    By the way your window washer reservoir is missing a cap.
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    IMO You should drive the car for atleast a couple of weeks and keep the engine under observation before spending any more money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangel View Post
    Congratulations. Hope everything works out well for you.
    By the way your window washer reservoir is missing a cap.
    cap has been missing since long been ages since i used the window washer,, usually it spoils the visibility and the one eventually has to wipe the screen manually ...
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    If it spoils visibility then you need to get the wiper rubbers changed (don't get local rubber) and also inspect windscreen for scratches. Get it buffed if required.
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    new wipers all ready its the screen that needs buffing i guess but those highway bugs just blind the view after getting wiped. have observed this phenomenon in new cars as well.
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    I agree, never use wipers on highway bugs

    By the way have you done a compression test on the rebuilt engine?
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