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    salam all

    as d topic says
    new honda civic 9th gen is involved in many worst crashes in pakistan.

    me and many others also want to know d reason y these worst crashes happens here in pk

    i hav conclude these crashes happens due to 15" rims and low quality tyres (15" size matters alto due to lesser width).

    i'hve bad experiance with a friends car with stock alloys n tyres
    car slides at sharp turn while minor brake press
    but alhumdulillah v r safe from crash

    me too also own a 9th gen civic
    but didnt face any problem

    i hav changed the rims in to 17" very first day.

    do share ur experience

    i have few evidence of crash reasons due to stock 15" wheels


    i think ATLAS HONDA should take serious action to resolve this problem
    for d sake of precious lifes and worthy cars
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    some more ... 8th Gen Civic ke itne accients report nhn hue the ... damn

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    Quote Originally Posted by umair2203 View Post
    some suspects from ny side. ..

    yar itne accidents tu Xli ke report nhn ho rhe jitne 9th gen Civic ke accidents hein ...

    I was discussing the same this morning ..what is the reason ??

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    U got my point

    Must say even 7gen civic donst record that accident ratio in limited time

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    Suspect 15

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    suspect 15
    Quote Originally Posted by umair2203 View Post
    some more ... 8th Gen Civic ke itne accients report nhn hue the ... damn

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    Bro i also have 9th gen and i go daily on ring road. The main reason i think is bcz of overspeeding! When u go above 160 km/hr u can't dead break obviously u will become also a suspect like others.
    Our traffic laws are also not strict even ive experienced on ring road that people are crossing road carelessly and u know on ring road every car has a speed of 100km/hr or above!
    Even i have witnessed many accidents bcz of these stupid people crossing the road without looking even knowing that cars are real fast.
    Many cars had accidents saving these careless pedestrians!


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    Well. the Tyre size only cant be a reason for so many crashes for same model. The US model civic comes with 195/65/R15 steel wheels with hub caps. National Highway Transportation Agency "NHTSA" tests cars with its more basic and standard features. 16" or 17" alloy wheels are on upper trim levels. US and Asian/ civic are almost identical for current generation with some exterior differences. YES the major difference is the safety features.

    2013/14 Civic ( face lifted from 2012) has overall 5 star crash rating. ( 4 in front, 5 in side and 4 in roll over) tested with 195/65/R15 with Bridgestone tyres. I am not expert and I would not like to be judgmental on basis of tyre size only. If I am right and correct me if I am wrong ( Atlas Website don't mention this under safety features of civic) ;the Atlas Civic don't have
    Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) with Traction Control. Though VSA is not
    a substitute for safe driving. It cannot correct the vehicles course in every situation or compensate for reckless driving. Control of the vehicle always remains with the driver. VSA is standard feature on US model and its Mandatory by law to be in all vehicles.

    VSA can brake individual wheels and/or reduce engine power in the event of over-steer or under-steer to help regain the drivers intended path. The system also features a traction control function to help prevent wheelspin during acceleration.

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    Please remember safety features are there to protect you and its not substitute TO SAFE DRIVING. You must drive safe and responsibly no matter what you drive . Pakistan has no vehicle safety governing body who can dictate what the car assembler and manufacturer need to do. Until that we will see cars worth millions without basic safety features ( airbags is one of them) which are mandatory everywhere else.

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    Maybe because of electric power steering (eps) it is good for city drive but not for highways thats why reborn feels better on turns and sharp curves even at high speeds than 9th gen civic..


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    Honda's assembly line is cursed
    but on a serious note alot of Civic accidents are reported/seen
    just one last night but dont know what he crashed into because alot of cars bikes were parked alongside

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    The primary reason is most probably the attitude.

    After spending Rs. 2.5million, many people thing they bought the road too and have a license to do anything. Civic is a family sedan not a sports car and our roads are a traffic mess, not a race track. Btw, Porshe 911 also have a high rate of accidents because people think the technology in the car will make up for their stupidity.

    Well, not always.

    I haven't heard of a particular reason why they crash or a peculiar pattern so I ain't suspecting a manufacturing/design default, yet. May be there is but that needs to be verified.

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    Another question from my side is that why are most of them turned over like a cockroach?

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    It was high time, glad that such a thread has been started.
    I have seen several 9th Gen Civic "Boyses" who think they bought an F1 car which can drive and turn with precision at maniac speeds. Truth is, this is a family car and meant to be driven in limits. This analogy does not apply to all 9th Gen owners, but even you guys will agree there is a very big segment of people who share this mentality.
    Many times I see boyses cutting wildly through traffic in 9th Gen Civic, from Cycle Lane to Fast Lane in one cut, and at a very high speed. They feel really proud about this, wow!
    Problem is the mentality. Toyota is nicknamed "Paindoo" here due to some obvious reasons such as XLis with chrome everywhere, many show-off mentality boyses with new money or some bharam wala background think they bought the road and hence can do whatever they can and want to do. Again I would repeat this does not apply to everyone, it is a certain segment of the society.


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    The main reason is because for the crashes of the 9th gen is simply because of the ignorance of the drivers. People think that it's sports car and drive it at insanely high speed on crowded roads.
    Now if you put a 1.8L family sedan together with high speeds and traffic, it makes a perfect recipe for a crash. Even high end sports cars with professional drivers behind the wheel in a controlled environment crash due a small mistake. We here are talking about normal people, with not much driving experience, just getting into the car and flooring it, so they are bound to crash sometime or the other.

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    I just want to remind you all .. that consumer reports had very bad reviews of Honda Civic 2012 .. due to quality issues and stability as well .. civic was refreshed the very next year in USA but the same model made it here in South Asian countries .. sooooooo this is your hint @fireblade
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    Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
    Well. the Tyre size only cant be a reason for so many crashes for same model. The US model civic comes with 195/65/R15 steel wheels with hub caps. National Highway Transportation Agency "NHTSA" tests cars with its more basic and standard features. 16" or 17" alloy wheels are on upper trim levels. US and Asian/ civic are almost identical for current generation with some exterior differences. YES the major difference is the safety features.

    2013/14 Civic ( face lifted from 2012) has overall 5 star crash rating. ( 4 in front, 5 in side and 4 in roll over) tested with 195/65/R15 with Bridgestone tyres. I am not expert and I would not like to be judgmental on basis of tyre size only. If I am right and correct me if I am wrong ( Indus Website don't mention this under safety features of civic) ;the Indus Civic don't have
    Vehicle Stability Assist (VSA) with Traction Control. Though VSA is not
    a substitute for safe driving. It cannot correct the vehicles course in every situation or compensate for reckless driving. Control of the vehicle always remains with the driver. VSA is standard feature on US model and its Mandatory by law to be in all vehicles.

    VSA can brake individual wheels and/or reduce engine power in the event of over-steer or under-steer to help regain the drivers intended path. The system also features a traction control function to help prevent wheelspin during acceleration.

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    new CIVIC 9th gen worst crashes reasons -1495845new CIVIC 9th gen worst crashes reasons -1495846new CIVIC 9th gen worst crashes reasons -1495847


    Please remember safety features are there to protect you and its not substitute TO SAFE DRIVING. You must drive safe and responsibly no matter what you drive . Pakistan has no vehicle safety governing body who can dictate what the car assembler and manufacturer need to do. Until that we will see cars worth millions without basic safety features ( airbags is one of them) which are mandatory everywhere else.

    Indus civic?

    You meant Atlas civic prolly.

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    Most of the people here are stating that those accidents happened due to over speeding. Seriously? @fireblade posted around 16 suspect cases. Do all 16 of them were over speeding? I don't think so. A few cases, may be half of them, yes but not all of them

    There might/has to be another reason. We should not blame every accident on the way people drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by n4noaman View Post
    Most of the people here are stating that those accidents happened due to over speeding. Seriously? @fireblade posted around 16 suspect cases. Do all 16 of them were over speeding? I don't think so. A few cases, may be half of them, yes but not all of them

    There might/has to be another reason. We should not blame every accident on the way people drive.
    Exactly. This car has poor ride height, bigger body which is actually light and 15s as well do make some difference. I see OP lowered his car as well I guess.

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    poor ABS response on load and at high speed, Pathetic EBD, Super Blind corners, Poor metallurgy (thanks to PK specs) and welds are some of the many reasons , add a stupid driver as icing on top and you have a Accident involving nothing else but a new civic sports family sedan , Class hae bhai ye, class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedk06 View Post
    poor ABS response on load and at high speed, Pathetic EBD, Super Blind corners, Poor metallurgy (thanks to PK specs) and welds are some of the many reasons , add a stupid driver as icing on top and you have a Accident involving nothing else but a new civic sports family sedan , Class hae bhai ye, class.
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    So, you are blaming the tires? * Slow clap*.

    Idiots behind the wheels, I say. Teach a monkey to drive a car, I bet the monkey would drive better.
    Our Pakistani Awaam cannot differentiate between a Family car or a car that is to be driven like a sportscar.
    25 lac aa gai, Joua, Bank loan, cash, company, inheritance and the list goes on, Shivic lay li.

    ^That gives you the " Permission " to drive like a maniac, some people think.
    When they crash and they survive- " I am such a good driver, didn't die".
    When they do die- Family blames Car assembler, roads, gov., that neighbour who saw the car with evil eye, that beggar on the corner and the doodh wala for giving bad milk which led to the result.

    We bought our car for A>B transportation. I did have my fun in it, maxed out the meter at 180km/h, but that was a once upon a time experience. Never to be done again, especially on a stock PKDM car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedk06 View Post
    poor ABS response on load and at high speed, Pathetic EBD, Super Blind corners, Poor metallurgy (thanks to PK specs) and welds are some of the many reasons , add a stupid driver as icing on top and you have a Accident involving nothing else but a new civic sports family sedan , Class hae bhai ye, class.
    No offence but konsi gari chalayein phir if Pakistani specs are poor? Japani landay se ayi hui raghri raghraai gari jis k sarr pairr ka b nae patta? Na parts milein na mechanic? @ALL. Please calm down. These crashes are still much lesser than 9th gen corollas crashes. Even high end cars like bmw and Audi also gets involved in accidents. There is no issue with ride height or road grip. Har koi apni apni kahani sunaa raha hay. Issue is with people driving this car. They think they are driving ferrari or bugatti in and over speeding in city limits. All of the accidents reported here are 150km/h +. What do you all expect from a family car which is crashed at this much speeds? Itna he kaafi hay k banday bach jaatay hayn iss speed pe.

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