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    Check the delivery status of your booked Honda vehicle > http://www.honda.com.pk/CarDelivery#/

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    This Thread is dedicated to the discussion/ launch regarding the most anticipated next generation Civic by Honda Atlas [ The Civic X]. Share your thoughts, opinion, expectations, wish list and anything related to the next Civic.

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      Between whatever atlas doing with price & launch style idiocy of civic. We have to live with it the way we r living within this system

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      Well can somebody explain what is the difference between a Normal Engine and a Turbo Engine...
      Why it has more power and still better fuel economy?
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      Quote Originally Posted by drtariqazeem View Post
      Well can somebody explain what is the difference between a Normal Engine and a Turbo Engine...
      Why it has more power and still better fuel economy?
      To explain simply:
      Normal Engine i.e. NA (normally aspirated) basically works by normal air supply feeding into the engine for combustion
      BUT
      In a turbo engine, waste exhaust gases give energy to a turbine for forcing extra air into the engine because of which more thrust is created as more fuel reacts with more air in the same short time and engine gives more power.
      So output of a relatively smaller Turbo engine during peak power is more than an NA engine due to extra fuel and air giving more combustion.
      During normal driving since the engine displacement is smaller therefore fuel consumption is better.


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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
      To explain simply:
      Normal Engine i.e. NA (normally aspirated) basically works by normal air supply feeding into the engine for combustion
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      In a turbo engine, waste exhaust gases give energy to a turbine for forcing extra air into the engine because of which more thrust is created as more fuel reacts with more air in the same short time and engine gives more power.
      So output of a relatively smaller Turbo engine during peak power is more than an NA engine due to extra fuel and air giving more combustion.
      During normal driving since the engine displacement is smaller therefore fuel consumption is better.


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      If this is the case then it won't need hi octane:p

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nabeel_Ali View Post
      If this is the case then it won't need hi octane:p
      I posted a video of the Honda Engineer who said clearly that the 1.5T does Not need Hi-octane. I don't know why people are still debating this?

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      Who said it needs hi-octane purely? It just needs cleaner fuel with a better RON value which in our stupid quality useless country isn't available upto standard.
      Idhar dawai khalis nahi milti aur hum chalay upto standard petrol dhoondnay


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      Quote Originally Posted by Nabeel_Ali View Post
      If this is the case then it won't need hi octane:p

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      The normal fuel we have has lower than standard RON values. And since a Turbo Engine is making extra efforts it needs proper calories/energies which a fuel has. To counter the problem mixing of Hi-Octane can be done but since Hi-Octane is not easily available to make the poor fuel better by mixing. That's where the problem arises.
      Its called "YAK NA SHUD DO SHUD", na upto standard normal fuel aur na Hi-Octane


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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
      The normal fuel we have has lower than standard RON values. And since a Turbo Engine is making extra efforts it needs proper calories/energies which a fuel has. To counter the problem mixing of Hi-Octane can be done but since Hi-Octane is not easily available to make the poor fuel better by mixing. That's where the problem arises.
      Its called "YAK NA SHUD DO SHUD", na upto standard normal fuel aur na Hi-Octane


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      I guess octane booster is our only friend.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Nabeel_Ali View Post
      I guess octane booster is our only friend.

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      Firstly, most octane boosters don't work. It's just a money minting product.
      Secondly if some specified brands do work, What are the chances people will follow it even if Atlas puts a note on the fuel lid or sunvisor?


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      I bet more than half of the people buying Turbo won't even know how to keep it. Not everyone in Pakistan is a Pakwheeler following these things.
      So at the end, it will all be blamed on Atlas and turn out to be there fault.


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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
      Firstly, most octane boosters don't work. It's just a money minting product.
      Secondly if some specified brands do work, What are the chances people will follow it even if Atlas puts a note on the fuel lid or sunvisor?


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      Quote Originally Posted by zuhaibafzal View Post
      So in that case, one should not buy Turbo?
      Those who can take care of it, should buy it.
      As far as I am concerned. I will act backward minded and wait for it to establish for a generation and maybe buy it after a few years once the hiccups and bumps are gone and it's a regular item.
      Despite warranty and everything Atlas will offer as a backup support. I'd prefer to avoid the extra effort and hassle


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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
      Who said it needs hi-octane purely? It just needs cleaner fuel with a better RON value which in our stupid quality useless country isn't available upto standard.
      Idhar dawai khalis nahi milti aur hum chalay upto standard petrol dhoondnay
      Contrary to popular opinion. Higher-octane fuel is NOT Cleaner! This is just a myth that has been propagated, and the gas companies are quiet about it because it actually helps their business.

      Certain high-performance engines (including Turbo) compress the air-fuel mixture a lot more in the combustion chamber than a traditional Naturally Aspirated engine. A lower octane rating (RON) fuel will combust sooner in those engines (pre-detonate) - which is what results in engine knocking. The companies that design the engine, do it to a certain spec, so if Honda engineer is saying that 87 RON is good, then it is good. You get absolutely No benefit from using a High octane. Sure if you want to clean-up the engine than occasionally you can use those fuel cleaner bottles and add it to your tank.

      But please, research some more, regular fuel is Not "Ganda" it's just lower octane rating. Sure, the gas companies may add more cleaning additives in the high-octane fuel but knowing Pakistani market, how much of those additives do you think they'll add? You'd be better of just buying a cleaner bottle and using it every 6 months or so. Also, the engine cleaning really matters if you're planning on keeping your car for decades, which most of us just won't, so its basically a mute point.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ghayyour View Post
      I can't find hi octane in Lahore. Do any one has list of pumps supplying hi oct.


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      Turbo engine is a disaster failure in pakistan...civic turbo will become a nightmare for the buyers with in one year...so try to buy regular engine...

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      Do any of you remember those news paper articles which said Civic X would not release before december and how many believed those articles and the dealers that were quoted in those articles....

      And then there were the rational few(including yours truly) who knew this was just to get rid of the existing stock.

      Obviously those news articles wouldn't have come out without honda atlas' approving those dealers giving out such fake details.

      My advice to all would be to take everything you hear or find out, especially from these dealers with a pinch of salt no matter how friendly they might be or informal ur interaction with them might be. At the end of the day they will give priority to their bread n butter than a personal rapport with one of the hundreds of customers they interact with and might aswell lie to your face (isnt that what sales is all about, atleast in Pakistan).

      Some of you may have personal relations with somebody at atlas and hence went ahead with this booking. Others just had ample cash to burn. Arkhitekt bhai is the safest as hes getting it leased. But i would really like to give a 21 gun salute to all the others who got it booked......that they sooo blindly went ahead and gave Rs 1 million of their hard earned money to a company which was actually LYING to them a couple of months back via fake articles in newspapers and just by looking at leaked images of what it might be on an internet forum (general statement, not doubting reliability of pak wheels).


      From an investors point of view its understandable but from rational consumer point of view, i can only give a 21 gun salute.....

      Coming back to the current topic.......please go with the 1.8 engine. yes the new toy comes with all the goodies, but are u sure you trust pakistani fuel for that all soo sensitive turbo engine. Jee meray bhaiyon mercedes bhi chall rahi hain, Beamers bhi aur audis bhi......but are they really in the same numbers as Pak assembled cars are. Stay safe.....get the 1.8!

      Immense respect for Nabeel who being the one of the most enthusiastic fans of civic x showed prudent consumer behaviour and has waited for the actual launch.

      I pray to Almighty and hope you all get whatever you are expecting from what u have booked and Honda Atlas doesnt dupe you in July.

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      I have been quietly observing nabeel and his enthusiasm over the launch i agree one must give him a hat's off for not running to get the booking done hahaha ...
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      Quote Originally Posted by ghayyour View Post
      Exactly this is one of the major issues atlas is foreseeing right now. Availability of petrol with required level of octane. Hi octane is not available in south side of Lahore like Wapda town, Johar town, garden and Allama iqbal town. Not even on pumps near thokar. So whoever wants to travel on say motorway or Multan road must have to travel to cavalry or DHA first. By the way hi octane is not available in Gulberg. This is the real challenge for atlas.


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      Quote Originally Posted by mrdeejay View Post
      Contrary to popular opinion. Higher-octane fuel is NOT Cleaner! This is just a myth that has been propagated, and the gas companies are quiet about it because it actually helps their business.

      Certain high-performance engines (including Turbo) compress the air-fuel mixture a lot more in the combustion chamber than a traditional Naturally Aspirated engine. A lower octane rating (RON) fuel will combust sooner in those engines (pre-detonate) - which is what results in engine knocking. The companies that design the engine, do it to a certain spec, so if Honda engineer is saying that 87 RON is good, then it is good. You get absolutely No benefit from using a High octane. Sure if you want to clean-up the engine than occasionally you can use those fuel cleaner bottles and add it to your tank.

      But please, research some more, regular fuel is Not "Ganda" it's just lower octane rating. Sure, the gas companies may add more cleaning additives in the high-octane fuel but knowing Pakistani market, how much of those additives do you think they'll add? You'd be better of just buying a cleaner bottle and using it every 6 months or so. Also, the engine cleaning really matters if you're planning on keeping your car for decades, which most of us just won't, so its basically a mute point.
      ganda in the sense k Pakistan me regular is maybe 82 or 80 ron cause of mixing to earn extra profit and to be honest i even doubt that. Worst petrol is PSO then Shell

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      Quote Originally Posted by mrdeejay View Post
      Contrary to popular opinion. Higher-octane fuel is NOT Cleaner! This is just a myth that has been propagated, and the gas companies are quiet about it because it actually helps their business.

      Certain high-performance engines (including Turbo) compress the air-fuel mixture a lot more in the combustion chamber than a traditional Naturally Aspirated engine. A lower octane rating (RON) fuel will combust sooner in those engines (pre-detonate) - which is what results in engine knocking. The companies that design the engine, do it to a certain spec, so if Honda engineer is saying that 87 RON is good, then it is good. You get absolutely No benefit from using a High octane. Sure if you want to clean-up the engine than occasionally you can use those fuel cleaner bottles and add it to your tank.

      But please, research some more, regular fuel is Not "Ganda" it's just lower octane rating. Sure, the gas companies may add more cleaning additives in the high-octane fuel but knowing Pakistani market, how much of those additives do you think they'll add? You'd be better of just buying a cleaner bottle and using it every 6 months or so. Also, the engine cleaning really matters if you're planning on keeping your car for decades, which most of us just won't, so its basically a mute point.
      The lecture is impressive, but ganda doesn't necessarily mean it has particles of dust or something (though our fuel filters get choked more frequently). I did say it's not upto STANDARD meaning the RONs are not upto mark. They knock ordinary engines


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