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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
      The lecture is impressive, but ganda doesn't necessarily mean it has particles of dust or something (though our fuel filters get choked more frequently). I did say it's not upto STANDARD meaning the RONs are not upto mark. They knock ordinary engines
      so what's the guarantee that hi-octane is better, maybe its exactly the same as super?

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      Quote Originally Posted by mrdeejay View Post
      so what's the guarantee that hi-octane is better, maybe its exactly the same as super?
      That is a myth, maybe true. But I doubt ab itne bhi burray halaat nahi. Though Hi-Octane also won't be as good in quality as it should be but still better than lower RON petrol we mostly have.


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      Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
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      Exactly Fazal bhai, what about the frequently available lower than 87 Ron we have around. About the additives, I doubt all of them are upto mark either lying in the shelf of petrol pump shops.


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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
      Exactly Fazal bhai, what about the frequently available lower than 87 Ron we have around. About the additives, I doubt all of them are upto mark either lying in the shelf of petrol pump shops.


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      Some more reading.. https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/octane.shtml

      I have never seen below 87 anywhere here on East Coast. On higher elevation like in Colorado 85 is available on pumps.

      As of today a 87 is priced at $2.29/US gallon while 93 is 2.75/US gallon

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      Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
      ganda in the sense k Pakistan me regular is maybe 82 or 80 ron cause of mixing to earn extra profit and to be honest i even doubt that. Worst petrol is PSO then Shell

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      Can't understand why have they reduced the fuel tank capacity. Previously it used to be 50 liters.
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      Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
      ganda in the sense k Pakistan me regular is maybe 82 or 80 ron cause of mixing to earn extra profit and to be honest i even doubt that. Worst petrol is PSO then Shell

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      Quote Originally Posted by AffaanAlAziz1 View Post
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      Can't understand why have they reduced the fuel tank capacity. Previously it used to be 50 liters.
      It might be due to the fact that they have decreased the height of the car or may be to accommodate dual exhaust pipes or may be even to adjust for extra trunk space... Still its jux 3 litres, wouldnt make much of a difference i guess... 👍


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      Quote Originally Posted by mrdeejay View Post
      Contrary to popular opinion. Higher-octane fuel is NOT Cleaner! This is just a myth that has been propagated, and the gas companies are quiet about it because it actually helps their business.

      Certain high-performance engines (including Turbo) compress the air-fuel mixture a lot more in the combustion chamber than a traditional Naturally Aspirated engine. A lower octane rating (RON) fuel will combust sooner in those engines (pre-detonate) - which is what results in engine knocking. The companies that design the engine, do it to a certain spec, so if Honda engineer is saying that 87 RON is good, then it is good. You get absolutely No benefit from using a High octane. Sure if you want to clean-up the engine than occasionally you can use those fuel cleaner bottles and add it to your tank.

      But please, research some more, regular fuel is Not "Ganda" it's just lower octane rating. Sure, the gas companies may add more cleaning additives in the high-octane fuel but knowing Pakistani market, how much of those additives do you think they'll add? You'd be better of just buying a cleaner bottle and using it every 6 months or so. Also, the engine cleaning really matters if you're planning on keeping your car for decades, which most of us just won't, so its basically a mute point.
      I'm sorry this is not true. How can you say there is no benefit to using high octane? Of course there is on a turbo car without a doubt! High octane fuel will not only improve fuel economy on a turbo car but also increase boost targets in modern turbo cars by adaption of the ecu, in other words will provide a slight increase in bhp and torque.

      A few people have mentioned that there are mercs audis bmw's etc running just fine on our fuel but this civic won't work because it will sell in many more numbers??? What kind of logic is this? Let me get this right, you're saying that there will be a difference to individual engines based on how many units are soled?

      Porsches run just fine here on our fuel. I think what people are not understanding about modern Ecu's is their ability to adapt very well to conditions such as fuel and climate. I'll say this again, don't worry about fuel issues, even standard will be fine with the civic and if you can access high octane great you might hit 0.5psi more boost if the ron is actually higher.

      Let me give you an example, we had a partner in Germany with a completely stock nissan gtr take his car to the dyno one day with standard pump fuel then went the next week to the dyno again only difference was tank had 109 octane race fuel for a track day he was planning, the result....an extra 40hp from nothing but higher octane fuel, no tuning, no other parts nothing else.

      So when you guys are saying the cars gonna knock, no it isn't! if the fuel ron is low the ecu will adjust values in real time and reduce boost in order to stay within a safety threshold. So yes its possible that your 173bhp engine might one day run 160 if you fill it with very poor low octane fuel and on another day run more than 173 if you get a good batch of high octane.

      We have done some limited testing on local high octane fuel on the new audi a3 1.8tfsi and a6, we would like to do a lot more once we receive our car before we can post any conclusions and results.

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      Not sure though, but is it because of the absence of apple carplay/ android auto that we are not getting the blue cluster meter as I feel that the steering MID controls on the USDM and cluster displaying settings, music tracks, navigation etc. are connected to the infotainment system. We are getting the chinese version of the TW or something infotainment system so no MID button on steering and no info on the cluster meter. This would be a step back as we had the MID controls on steering on the 9th gen.
      Now, I think (this is only my opinion) that in case Atlas HAS to remove a feature they should get rid of the remote start and add android auto/ carplay + blue cluster meter (again, people may disagree)
      Secondly, yes please remove the piano black grill and give us the chrome........

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      Quote Originally Posted by imad.munir View Post
      I'm sorry this is not true. How can you say there is no benefit to using high octane? Of course there is on a turbo car without a doubt! High octane fuel will not only improve fuel economy on a turbo car but also increase boost targets in modern turbo cars by adaption of the ecu, in other words will provide a slight increase in bhp and torque.
      It all depends on the engine. Engines are designed with a certain fuel in mind, if you go for higher octane, than there is no benefit. Just because you put higher octane in it, doesn't mean ECU is going to increase the compression ratios and produce more power. ECU is programmed with certain limits from the factory. Even if there is a benefit of 1-5 hp - that to me is No benefit as you're not going to win any races by gaining that much hp. HOWEVER, if you were to re-program the ECU with a higher compression ratio, than yes there could be benefit in going with higher octane fuel. For this conversation, we're talking about standard ECU, not programmed ones.

      You are right in that ECU adapts to the conditions, however, than means decreasing power if the fuel RON rating is low - to prevent knocking. However, ECU will Not increase power beyond the default programmed limits Unless you re-program it - which is what tuning companies do.

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      Quote Originally Posted by imad.munir View Post
      I'm sorry this is not true. How can you say there is no benefit to using high octane? Of course there is on a turbo car without a doubt! High octane fuel will not only improve fuel economy on a turbo car but also increase boost targets in modern turbo cars by adaption of the ecu, in other words will provide a slight increase in bhp and torque.

      A few people have mentioned that there are mercs audis bmw's etc running just fine on our fuel but this civic won't work because it will sell in many more numbers??? What kind of logic is this? Let me get this right, you're saying that there will be a difference to individual engines based on how many units are soled?

      Porsches run just fine here on our fuel. I think what people are not understanding about modern Ecu's is their ability to adapt very well to conditions such as fuel and climate. I'll say this again, don't worry about fuel issues, even standard will be fine with the civic and if you can access high octane great you might hit 0.5psi more boost if the ron is actually higher.

      Let me give you an example, we had a partner in Germany with a completely stock nissan gtr take his car to the dyno one day with standard pump fuel then went the next week to the dyno again only difference was tank had 109 octane race fuel for a track day he was planning, the result....an extra 40hp from nothing but higher octane fuel, no tuning, no other parts nothing else.

      So when you guys are saying the cars gonna knock, no it isn't! if the fuel ron is low the ecu will adjust values in real time and reduce boost in order to stay within a safety threshold. So yes its possible that your 173bhp engine might one day run 160 if you fill it with very poor low octane fuel and on another day run more than 173 if you get a good batch of high octane.

      We have done some limited testing on local high octane fuel on the new audi a3 1.8tfsi and a6, we would like to do a lot more once we receive our car before we can post any conclusions and results.
      Kindly explain how HI Octane can result in increased Hp /Torque of a specific engine?

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