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    Default 10th Generation Civic Exclusive Pakistan Launch

    Check the delivery status of your booked Honda vehicle > http://www.honda.com.pk/CarDelivery#/

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    This Thread is dedicated to the discussion/ launch regarding the most anticipated next generation Civic by Honda Atlas [ The Civic X]. Share your thoughts, opinion, expectations, wish list and anything related to the next Civic.

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    Meanwhile all members who booked car and waiting for delivery, please send me a PM if you want to be listed in the Fan/ owners thread here > https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/civ...wners-fan-club

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      Quote Originally Posted by smokin View Post
      [QoUOTE=danishmmh;5109547]OGRA regulates fuel at 82RON, so sorry your turbo will be knocking at the revs you want. That to at Refinery sale. RON drops with storage, so the fuel you might get may be even lower
      Who told you that ogra regulate 82 ron?

      I have been working in refinery till Mar 2015, The sale criteria was 82.5RON 0.5Ron above allowed OGRA description. The reformate (Purest HO fuel) was 94RON and maxed out at 96. This was diluted with light Naphta and sold at 82.5

      My bad then in thinking that, It was what i was told by the Oil movement people. But to think that the best Byco came up with used to be 92 RON reformate I still cant fathom how they would have managed to keep up with 87

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      The response of New Civic has been tremendous and even better than Honda Atlas' expectations. They did not have to spend a dime on marketing the new brand and without even telling the price, thousands of people across Pakistan have provided them their hard earned (or otherwise) Rs 1 million, just to get in the line to own the car. That is the height of absurdity.

      There is a reason Atlas did not announce the price yet. They wanted to gauge market's response and price the product accordingly. Atlas knew that there would be some people smart enough to give a lukewarm response so that the announced prices do not go through the roof, but there will still be enough people to jump the bandwagon and give advance booking without knowing the price.

      This is exactly the same behavior our countrymen display when Bahria Town announces a new project in Karachi and the whole public just get in line to obtain forms at whatever the price even when the project location is not announced. Once that huge level of interest is developed, no matter how bad the location be (or in this case how high the final price of Civic will be), people will continue to buy due to hyped-up demand. The feeling that everyone is buying it so it must be a good deal and we should buy that too without caring for location (in Bahria's case), or the price (in Civic's case).

      With this kind of irrational spending pattern, Honda Atlas won't lose anything even if the final price of Civic Turbo is announced at 30 lacs and delivery is given after 6 months. In fact higher the delivery time, higher the consumer's perception that this Civic is REALLY in demand, so better to book it asap.

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      Quote Originally Posted by khurem View Post
      The response of New Civic has been tremendous and even better than Honda Atlas' expectations. They did not have to spend a dime on marketing the new brand and without even telling the price, thousands of people across Pakistan have provided them their hard earned (or otherwise) Rs 1 million, just to get in the line to own the car. That is the height of absurdity.

      There is a reason Atlas did not announce the price yet. They wanted to gauge market's response and price the product accordingly. Atlas knew that there would be some people smart enough to give a lukewarm response so that the announced prices do not go through the roof, but there will still be enough people to jump the bandwagon and give advance booking without knowing the price.

      This is exactly the same behavior our countrymen display when Bahria Town announces a new project in Karachi and the whole public just get in line to obtain forms at whatever the price even when the project location is not announced. Once that huge level of interest is developed, no matter how bad the location be (or in this case how high the final price of Civic will be), people will continue to buy due to hyped-up demand. The feeling that everyone is buying it so it must be a good deal and we should buy that too without caring for location (in Bahria's case), or the price (in Civic's case).

      With this kind of irrational spending pattern, Honda Atlas won't lose anything even if the final price of Civic Turbo is announced at 30 lacs and delivery is given after 6 months. In fact higher the delivery time, higher the consumer's perception that this Civic is REALLY in demand, so better to book it asap.
      I think it is not the case. They are not just aiming their product entirely for this segment. There could be more potential customer, in fact a larger chunk, sitting and waiting for the launch and planning to book after physically seeing the car or taking a test drive and then weigh the prices whether they fit into the budget or not. Market dynamics are not that simple.
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      Have a look at this guys. This is the base grade LX trim in the U.S, however the owner has worked his magic onto the car and boy it looks so nice. I am not really a fan of these wheels but still it looks dope and can't wait to see pimped up civics on our roads.
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      Quote Originally Posted by danishmmh View Post
      Who told you that ogra regulate 82 ron?

      I have been working in refinery till Mar 2015, The sale criteria was 82.5RON 0.5Ron above allowed OGRA description. The reformate (Purest HO fuel) was 94RON and maxed out at 96. This was diluted with light Naphta and sold at 82.5

      My bad then in thinking that, It was what i was told by the Oil movement people. But to think that the best Byco came up with used to be 92 RON reformate I still cant fathom how they would have managed to keep up with 87

      Regards
      so you're saying that Regular fuel in Pakistan is 82.5 RON? Then how come the news article just mentioned above was talking about govt negotiating from 87 RON to 92?

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      Pact signed for partial launch of high-grade expensive petrol

      ISLAMABAD: The oil-marketing companies (OMCs) and refineries have reached an agreement with the government for partial introduction of a high-grade petrol in the country at a higher price.


      The government has been asking the oil industry to replace low-quality petrol — 87 Research Octane Number — currently in use with a better grade 92 RON which offers better engine efficiency and slightly lower carbon footprint.


      The local refineries have been resisting the “expensive switchover” and have now been promised price compensation.


      The two sides confirmed mixing of kerosene oil and jet fuels in the petrol, diesel and other expensive fuels because of price differential.


      “It was, therefore, agreed that the kerosene price should be rationalised to discourage adulteration into HSD.”


      Under the agreement, the 87 RON petrol would now improve to 92 RON while High Octane Blending Component of 95 RON at present would be replaced with 97 RON HOBC. All the OMCs will be allowed HOBC imports.


      In view of the technological challenge, the government has now agreed to allow local refineries to continue with their existing operations, but marketing companies would be required to import high grade gasolines to upgrade locally produced petrol.


      “Each refinery will opt for producing 87 RON/90 RON as per their own configuration and limitations,” a senior government official said, quoting an agreement initialed by the oil industry.


      Except for Attock Refinery Limited in Rawalpindi – the only petroleum refining facility in the northern region – “all other refineries have agreed to produce 90 RON.”


      This would be further improved to 92 RON with even better grade imports.


      “The OMCs will ensure upliftment of local refinery product first as per the prevailing policy, irrespective of difference of RON,” added the agreement.


      ARL would not change its configuration because it would incur an additional loss of about $75 per tonne of naphtha transportation and handling to Karachi for subsequent export.


      “Producing 90 RON (for ARL) mean that its premier motor gasoline production will reduce by 12,000 tonnes per month and naphtha production will correspondingly go up,” the official explained.


      The determination of new price for the high grade petrol – 92 RON – will be made on the basis of a new formula that encourages the industry to switchover. This will be called a penalty to the price. Freight on board (FoB) price differential between 95 RON and 92 RON will be divided by three. This will give the per RON penalty.


      For 87 RON, the penalty will be five multiplied by each RON. For 87 RON, the ex-refinery price will be determined on the basis of import price of Pakistan State Oil, inclusive of all incidentals minus RON penalty and so will be the case for 90 RON as well.


      The pricing will be done by the oil industry on the basis of monthly averages. The new product will be out in the market in July and would be reviewed in October 2016.


      Previously, the oil industry had demanded to keep marketing the existing quality, for a few years, at the price of the superior variety so that oil companies could have adequate funds for technology up-gradation but this was not acceptable to the petroleum ministry, said an official.


      “Pakistan has been using 87 RON motor spirit for the past 20 years while the world has moved on to higher RON petrol. In view of sharp reduction in oil prices, it is the best time for switching over to 92 RON premier motor gasoline (PMG) at the earliest,” Petroleum Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi told OMCs and refineries.


      “Higher the RON, better the quality and engine performance and cleaner environment,” the minister said explaining that all the petrol pumps in the country were selling 87 RON petrol while HOBC was of 99-105 RON. The minister wanted to introduce 92 RON, commonly known as Euro-II gasoline across the country.


      Some oil industry players wanted allowing petrol sale of three different qualities with 87, 92 and 95 RON (as was the case in India) with price differential for an interim period to allow various consumer groups to have a choice on purchasing power.


      This was not acceptable to the petroleum ministry which believed it would lead to adulteration without giving a consumer the confidence if he/she was getting 87 RON for 92 RON price. A few hinted that some smaller players were already mixing jet fuel (Rs37 per litre) with petrol (Rs72 per litre) or benzene or kerosene with petrol because of taxation difference.


      Pak-Arab Refinery (Parco) would start producing 92 RON by November 2017. National Refinery cannot produce 92 RON in the near future but would mix imported finished products to improve its RON.


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      A few more just to liven up the thread, i do realize most of you would have already seen these pictures online.
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      Quote Originally Posted by eemmads View Post
      Exactly. If all these impatient honda fans would've thought of the greater good and controlled their spending spree, honda atlas would have launched civic at a price lower than they will now.

      Had my brothers been a bit rational, they would have not fallen in this trap laid out by atlas. A luke warm response to such an advanve booking bait would have made honda atlas think twice about pricing the civicX on the higher side.

      All that they have done is proven that Pakistani consumer is not rational and that the producer can manipulate them in whatever way it wishes. And honda atlas will now try to mint as much money as possible.


      People like me, for whom buying a car is an investment for the next 3 to 4 years and who want to bring out an optimum level between the costs & benefits will be left at a disadvantage now.

      Many wont like this comment of mine. But many would know deep down inside that i am absolutely correct.
      I do tend to agree to what you have said, but feel that the pricing analysts at HACPL are (or rather should be) not stupid enough to raise the price of the car based on over hyped prebookings which would have always been there even if they priced it at 35/ 36 lacs.
      Mostly, if not all, out of this is a niche market segment having a lot of money would pay anything just to be one of the first owners. I personally know a person who says I would pay even 5 lacs as own but need to be in the first batch of owners.
      So HACPL needs to think and price it wisely if they want to sell the car to the vast majority, most of which does not even know if the car is being launched next month.

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      Quote Originally Posted by syedahmedsaad View Post
      I do tend to agree to what you have said, but feel that the pricing analysts at HACPL are (or rather should be) not stupid enough to raise the price of the car based on over hyped prebookings which would have always been there even if they priced it at 35/ 36 lacs.
      Mostly, if not all, out of this is a niche market segment having a lot of money would pay anything just to be one of the first owners. I personally know a person who says I would pay even 5 lacs as own but need to be in the first batch of owners.
      So HACPL needs to think and price is wisely if they want to sell the car to the vast majority, most of which does not even know if the car is being launched next month.
      Yes definitely they need to sell it for the next 5 years after this high first batch of owners. Since this hype would be over after the next few months of the launch, Atlas must have worked out an optimum price of each trim.
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      Quote Originally Posted by sabaz1 View Post
      Please guide me which one is more good honda civic 1.8 or turbo 1.5


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      Off course 1.5 L Turbo is advance technology and will be hot cake in Pakistan.
      does not matter less 300 cc but generate more power as compared to 1800cc.govt taxes are also less in 1.5.
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      Punjab Govt recently increased 1500cc taxes !!
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      Quote Originally Posted by iavais View Post
      28 is too steep a price for 1.5 Turbo given the fact that a few major features are missing from the top tier model. I suspect and this is just a personal statement that the price would be just under 28 lacs for turbo.
      I hope its less than 28

      if its above then u change tyres and get it registered etc.

      itll go beyond the range of many 9th Gen owners who wish to upgrade

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      Quote Originally Posted by eemmads View Post
      Exactly. If all these impatient honda fans would've thought of the greater good and controlled their spending spree, honda atlas would have launched civic at a price lower than they will now.

      Had my brothers been a bit rational, they would have not fallen in this trap laid out by atlas. A luke warm response to such an advanve booking bait would have made honda atlas think twice about pricing the civicX on the higher side.

      All that they have done is proven that Pakistani consumer is not rational and that the producer can manipulate them in whatever way it wishes. And honda atlas will now try to mint as much money as possible.


      People like me, for whom buying a car is an investment for the next 3 to 4 years and who want to bring out an optimum level between the costs & benefits will be left at a disadvantage now.

      Many wont like this comment of mine. But many would know deep down inside that i am absolutely correct.

      My point exactly, I said the same thing a few posts back along with use of some very well constrained remarks about Honda Atlas a.k.a two penny thugs. Honda Atlas is playing us for fools and we are walking straight into trap. Honda Civic is indeed a great car, but a PKDM, in this price with these features where the rest of the world is getting everything in less than what we are paying is plain stupidity. Misaal hai, agley ko peanuts par tarkhana, yahan Honda Atlas peanuts par nahi uske basi chilkon par tarkha rahi hai
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      This thread is getting too hot, boring and immature. Every single time with every Civic launch and every massive price increase the amount of hue and cry is same.
      It is the problem of Honda Atlas and the company has to keep in mind it's profits. Honda Atlas Cars Pakistan Limited is not a welfare foundation or a Trust foundation so stop crying please.
      If their car doesn't sale that shouldn't affect you. They are offering a product to earn profits. If it's acceptable take it, If it's not acceptable look somewhere else.
      And people like me and many many others who have booked it have booked it for our desire to want one as soon as we can. Call us idiots or fools it doesn't matter, we don't live and earn for you. We are buying one for ourselves and not you. And Atlas plans to earn profits which it will like every model in the past. Even if they don't, it shouldn't bother you. So beat it.


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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
      This thread is getting too hot, boring and immature. Every single time with every Civic launch and every massive price increase the amount of hue and cry is same.
      It is the problem of Honda Atlas and the company has to keep in mind it's profits. Honda Atlas Cars Pakistan Limited is not a welfare foundation or a Trust foundation so stop crying please.
      If their car doesn't sale that shouldn't affect you. They are offering a product to earn profits. If it's acceptable take it, If it's not acceptable look somewhere else.
      And people like me and many many others who have booked it have booked it for our desire to want one as soon as we can. Call us idiots or fools it doesn't matter. We are buying one for ourselves and not you. So beat it.


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      Quote Originally Posted by iavais View Post
      28 is too steep a price for 1.5 Turbo given the fact that a few major features are missing from the top tier model. I suspect and this is just a personal statement that the price would be just under 28 lacs for turbo.
      I hope its less than 28

      if its above then u change tyres and get it registered etc.

      itll go beyond the range of many 9th Gen owners who wish to upgrade

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      Congratulations. Looks ravishing in Red.
      Its burgundy color bro

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      Quote Originally Posted by A_F_H View Post
      My point exactly, I said the same thing a few posts back along with use of some very well constrained remarks about Honda Atlas a.k.a two penny thugs. Honda Atlas is playing us for fools and we are walking straight into trap. Honda Civic is indeed a great car, but a PKDM, in this price with these features where the rest of the world is getting everything in less than what we are paying is plain stupidity. Misaal hai, agley ko peanuts par tarkhana, yahan Honda Atlas peanuts par nahi uske basi chilkon par tarkha rahi hai
      Atleast offered us with Led projectors with Honda sensing tech with this huuuge guess price

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