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    Default 10th Generation Civic Exclusive Pakistan Launch

    Check the delivery status of your booked Honda vehicle > http://www.honda.com.pk/CarDelivery#/

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    This Thread is dedicated to the discussion/ launch regarding the most anticipated next generation Civic by Honda Atlas [ The Civic X]. Share your thoughts, opinion, expectations, wish list and anything related to the next Civic.

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      Quote Originally Posted by eemmads View Post
      Do keep in mind. Consumer laws in Pakistan are weak. And the biggest weak point of our case would be that HONDA ATLAS didnt put a gun to our heads and forced us to book the cars.

      All those who got them booked, got it done out of their own free will.

      Still lets try to find out what can we achieve. We might not be able to do much but we can easily prove that they have decieved consumers by not stating the fuel requirement initially.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mwm749 View Post
      Has anybody read the "Contract Form" which you signed at the time of booking the car? Normally such documents are were well written and there is hardly any space left for legal action against the manufacturer/ supplier.
      Valid point...!! Those who have booked can tell better....
      Or may be paste one here...


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      Believe it or not this is my 1998 civic.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ToxicDevil View Post
      Believe it or not this is my 1998 civic.

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      bro ur 1998 civic is turbocharged ?? c'mon man we are taking about turbo variant here .. and there is a hell of difference between ur 1998 civic engine and a turbocharged engine..


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      Quote Originally Posted by muzamil_r0cKy View Post
      The thing is that they still haven't officially informed the people who pre-booked the 1.5t that it runs on Hi-Octane. We got to know it through leaked information. So we can easily sue them in consumer court with a strong case before they, officially, let us know that our cars are going to run on Hi-Octane only. I, for instance, gave an address, on the relationship contract, of a city where there is no availability of Hi-Octane in the 400 km vicinity but was not informed about this issue at the time of booking. So I have a strong case against them as I'm being forced to settle for a car that I never wanted to have.
      If Honda is really serious, they can easily tune the maps of this car to suit the locally available RON 87, obviously you're turbo will be operating at a much lesser HP than it was rated for. Nowadays Hi Octane is short across Pakistan, specifically across rural areas. The fact of the matter is there is only so much the knock sensor will do to retard the timing. STP Octane booster doesn't even work on my Lancer, my fuel average in non hi-octane is literally 60% of what I get with Hi-Octane, why? Because I simply cannot feather the throttle without knocking and I cannot bear the thought of knocking so have to opt for a higher throttle while using super. The result will be that at around 40k KM's these cars will start knocking if they don't start knocking earlier, hell we own a 1.6 corolla the shape before the current one and that's started knocking without reaching 50k km's. As a result of this constant knocking these will be the worst used cars to buy, because no one will know what they were fed with through their lives. Buyers of 3 million rs. cars don't usually treat them like they are supposed to, if people can install cng in prados who knows if anyone skimped on the proper fuel all their lives.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mwm749 View Post
      Has anybody read the "Contract Form" which you signed at the time of booking the car? Normally such documents are were well written and there is hardly any space left for legal action against the manufacturer/ supplier.
      According to the Contract Form, those who have booked the car can take them to whatever court they want to, Atlas ko kharaash tak nahi aa sakti. The terms on the Relationship Contract form which all of you who have booked has Atlas safe at every single aspect. So legally they are more than safe with terms such as
      "The importer reserves the right to alter the design, specifications, color, price and delivery schedules, without prior notice to you". So just this point alone will end your fight for your rights before you even start it.
      There are many such further clauses.
      Have tried to make them visible in the attached snaps. So Good luck reading, those who have booked can read their own contracts if my snaps are not clear. And those who have not booked, you don't need to read one if ure so unhappy that you are not buying one :p
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      Quote Originally Posted by rajahasnain92 View Post
      bro ur 1998 civic is turbocharged ?? c'mon man we are taking about turbo variant here .. and there is a hell of difference between ur 1998 civic engine and a turbocharged engine..


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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
      For those who are wondering why I am not upset at Atlas, reposting something I said 6 months ago. I'm repeatedly saying this trouble was always there in the bag.
      I myself would have been at fault if I still opted for a Turbo Civic. It's easier to blame others but it's better to use your own brain


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      Thats what ive been saying it wont bloody effect the car using normal super -_- C200 kompressor also says 95 RON only and audi A4 1.8T aswell my friend have been using super regularly without any problems !!

      Quote Originally Posted by ToxicDevil View Post
      Believe it or not this is my 1998 civic.

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      Quote Originally Posted by wrangler View Post
      People being hasty and "dumb rich" is one thing, Honda ATLAS had the responsibility to clarify and nullify ANY wrong/ fake/ unconfirmed / unofficial/ fabricated information being provided to their customers by their HONDA 3S dealerships or other party. Its a strong case always is , its just that we never peruse. And even dumber people start to discourage the ones who are only about to exercise a basic right. there is nothing to loose in filing a petition.
      Please read clause 11 of the booking relationship contract form. I'm not defending Atlas but the right is not even there with the consumer in the first place. Atlas is legally more than safe.


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      Quote Originally Posted by ICEMANKHAN View Post
      Thats what ive been saying it wont bloody effect the car using normal super -_- C200 kompressor also says 95 RON only and audi A4 1.8T aswell my friend have been using super regularly without any problems !!
      If it is so then i'm going to book a 1.5T tomorrow I.A

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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
      Please read clause 11 of the booking relationship contract form. I'm not defending Atlas but the right is not even there with the consumer in the first place. Atlas is legally more than safe.


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      Generally the companies always never leave any right . That is the whole point of the consumer court to prevent such exploitation. We have such a defeated mindset. Atlas sold a product without disclosing facts that could have bearing on the decision of the buyer. This is fraudulent transaction under mercantile law let alone consumer rights commission.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah_Xia View Post
      If it is so then i'm going to book a 1.5T tomorrow I.A

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      Abdullah bhai, please kara lain book ab, main nay bhi karaye huee hai - aik tension tou khatam ho is forum ki

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      Quote Originally Posted by syedahmedsaad View Post
      Abdullah bhai, please kara lain book ab, main nay bhi karaye huee hai - aik tension tou khatam ho is forum ki
      Hahahhahaa yar kiya karun dil nahi manta jab tak honda officially apne muu se naa keh de "ham ne socha tha hi octane wale lanjhay se hamari 1.8 ki sale increase hogi lekin awam 1.8 ki jagha grande lene lag gayi hy es liye ham ne ham wo sab jhoot bola tha civic 1.5t normal 87ron pe chalay gi nahi bhagay gi" waiting for this statement

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      Quote Originally Posted by iavais View Post
      Generally the companies always never leave any right . That is the whole point of the consumer court to prevent such exploitation. We have such a defeated mindset. Atlas sold a product without disclosing facts that could have bearing on the decision of the buyer. This is fraudulent transaction under mercantile law let alone consumer rights commission.
      Good luck proving that, when people who booked signed the contract with their own will. That is what a CONTRACT means. A contract can have its own clauses.
      They signed a contract, didn't buy an off the shelf toothpaste which failed to whiten teeth.
      It's not like Atlas was holding a Gun to the buyers head.


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      Quote Originally Posted by syedahmedsaad View Post
      Abdullah bhai, please kara lain book ab, main nay bhi karaye huee hai - aik tension tou khatam ho is forum ki
      Hahaha, I second that Abdullah bhai. Please pehlay hi buhut tension pheli hui hai logon mai. Aap apni tension se to azad karain awaam ko.


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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
      Present Sir, aankh lag gayi thi. The Turbo issues with launch in Pakistan were always there in the bag and I deep down had a strong feeling about it. It was just a matter of time.
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      @arkhitekt please dont think that no body is listening to you. i withhold my booking for turbo and now waiting for launch and review of 1.8.
      what do you think as there will be any difference from the old engine in term of performance.

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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post
      Good luck proving that, when people who booked signed the contract with their own will. That is what a CONTRACT means. A contract can have its own clauses.
      They signed a contract, didn't buy an off the shelf toothpaste which failed to whiten teeth.
      It's not like Atlas was holding a Gun to the buyers head.


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      Yes no one held a gun but there are facts that need to be disclosed before a sale, facts that the seller very well knows would have had bearing on the decision of the buyer. Concealment of information is not covered under the pretext of whats written on the back no matter how exhaustive the list may be.

      True everyone signed the contract but the point that just seems to be lost on you and many others who are so quick to jump to the conclusion of blaming the customer, is that the contact was signed with the implied understanding that apart from price nothing else would be revealed in the coming days that would have a significant effect on the product, enough to make the buyer change his decision (which happened and the buyer was locked into the contract)

      Had Atlas given the option to refund the booking amount then there would not have been a strong case but here Atlas is forcing you now to switch over to the 1.8L...do you understand the difference... THEY ARE FORCING YOU TO BUY 1.8L but lured you through the 1.5L option.

      Lastly a toothpaste is worth what Rs. 50-100 and a car is worth what 2.5 million.... hahahaha your comparison is hilarious. You have to compare like things together otherwise going by your naive comparison buying an aeroplane and a car are also the same thing ? lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah_Xia View Post
      If it is so then i'm going to book a 1.5T tomorrow I.A

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      Sir please book kera lein ... mai ne dekhein comment kerna bhi chor diya hai is tension mein last 10 pages is se bharay paray hein
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      Quote Originally Posted by satardr View Post
      @arkhitekt please dont think that no body is listening to you. i withhold my booking for turbo and now waiting for launch and review of 1.8.
      what do you think as there will be any difference from the old engine in term of performance.
      It's basically the same R18 engine as on 9th Gen, but probably tweaked a bit further. The CVT transmission will have a different impact though.
      Overall the drive would be much different and better compared to previous Gen because of all other improvements.


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