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    Default 10th Generation Civic Exclusive Pakistan Launch

    Check the delivery status of your booked Honda vehicle > http://www.honda.com.pk/CarDelivery#/

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This Thread is dedicated to the discussion/ launch regarding the most anticipated next generation Civic by Honda Atlas [ The Civic X]. Share your thoughts, opinion, expectations, wish list and anything related to the next Civic.

    Please NO OFF TOPIC discussion.

    Meanwhile all members who booked car and waiting for delivery, please send me a PM if you want to be listed in the Fan/ owners thread here > https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/civ...wners-fan-club

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      Quote Originally Posted by zuhaibafzal View Post
      Sir kuch negative comments corolla ke thread mein ho jay phir? Quality issues toh uss mein bhe buhat hain. What you say?


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      I distinctly remember quality issues among other issues in the Corolla were discussed when it was launching/launched e.g roof moulding, same old rims, improper trunk alignment with rear lights etc

      This criticism on Atlas is fine and should be expected because of the 3 million price tag. Hopefully this pushes Atlas to fix these issues (that have been discussed in the last few days) and provide things that they've cut from the car for more $$$ aka profit


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      Quote Originally Posted by mwm749 View Post
      Hold on guys, you dont have to get sentimental now. Please understand that you have signed a contract with Atlas, which gives the all the rights they want.

      1-You have to have the product in your custody (physically) for consumer court to step in.

      2-The cars on display are Atlas property, court will not take any action.

      Best course of action would be to make noise, this thread or facebook will not get you the desired results.

      I agree with someones suggestion that a group of 2~5 persons representing all those who have pre booked the car should hold a meeting at press club with media present where they should be shown the pictures of faulty manufacturing.

      Frankly thats the only way to wakeup Atlas.

      I am not a Lawyer but contract specialist.
      Excellent idea of going to press club

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      Honda Civic Owners Manual; http://www.civicx.com/downloads/2016...Owners-Manual-[CivicX].pdf

      10th Generation Civic Exclusive Pakistan Launch -1700946

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      @fazalwahab

      Thanks for working out the detailed information.

      Information i requested was that out of US$ 25,000, how much will go into govt. treasury in form of VAT/General Sales Tax, Custom Duties, Income taxes etc. That will provide us an insight into how much the car would cost without govt taxes in US.

      Civic Turbo Pakistan
      In Pakistan, Sales tax is around 17% on sales price fixed by company where as custom duties, excise and other import and local taxes are around 10-13%. It means that out of PKR 3.1m price of Vtec Turbo (which includes sales tax @17% and other taxes at 13% - assumption), the actual price of car comes arount to PKR 2.1m.

      USDM Touring Turbo
      Lets see how much of US$ 25k ( or PKR 2.62m @PKR 105/$) is the actual cost of car. Only then we would be able to know whether the stripping off of features on Pakistani version was due to greediness of local Honda or were they surrounded by budget constraints.




      Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
      1.5T Touring [ Top of the line. With all bells and whistles]

      MRSP $27335.

      Less $500 customer appreciation.
      Less 1500 cash rebate

      Net: $25355
      Add $2422. NY state & County tax %8.862 [ NY state has highest tax brackets]

      $75 [Motor vehicle registration fee, if you transfer your old license it's only $10.] This includes cost of plates . If you need personalized plates it's additional $30. After first year you will get notice for renewal of registration which is around $140 for two years and if you have personalized plates it will be around $200. Regular plates are issues on spot at pick up of car. If you opt for personalized plates you get temporary card plates till you get your plates which is normally 5 business days.

      Add $275 [ Dealers documentation fee.. it varies by dealer some as an incentive don't charge.. it's average 200 to $350]

      Total cost 25335+2422+75+275 = $28107.

      Dealer was offering finance at zero down with interest rate $2.37 for 60 months. Friend paid 3000 upfront so financed only $25107 out of the door.

      As I mentioned. 5 oil changes, one brake pad replacement and one wiper blade replacement were given free of charge










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      Quote Originally Posted by mwm749 View Post
      Honda Civic Owners Manual; http://www.civicx.com/downloads/2016...Owners-Manual-[CivicX].pdf

      10th Generation Civic Exclusive Pakistan Launch -1700946

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      WoooW


      Those rims are just love

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      Ok so i got a call from my dealership asking me to make full payment and collect the car within 60 days. Some friends are saying delivery will not be possible till Nov/Dec which is obviously not good since it will be 2016 invoiced car. What do you suggest ... Should I pay or hold?

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      As a buyer I pay sales tax only which is 8.62 percent. For NY out of 8.62%, 4% goes to NY state while remaining goes to the county where I buy my car.

      I am not sure what goes out of MRSP to government. In fact its other way , Honda or any other company gets a lot of incentives from government as they employee hundred and thousands of people, also major part vendor industry runs as well and these auto makers spend huge amount of money on local communities. I will research and let you know but I don't think Honda or any other brand will be spending or giving some major contribution to government. Because they are running economy by employing, giving people health care , other insurances, because all this cost a lot and if people get unemployed as it goes then on government wallet as then Government has to pay health insurance, unemployment and other benefits.

      Infact if you buy a hybrid, federal and state will credit you on average 3000. While in case of full electric car like Tesla government pay you somewhere from 7500 to 15000 depending on where you live.

      Few years ago when there sas economical disaster here in US and companies like GM almost filed for bankruptcy, government pumped billion into them so that the burden don't come on government as far as unemployments and job losses because it would have created ripple effect . So car companies actually helping government running a system.

      All in all, what I explored and found, roughly the PKDM 1.5T feature wise is as equipped as around 22K USDM Civic.. remember USDM quality is way ahead and consumers rights are way stronger and government agencies are too strict ..




      Quote Originally Posted by Hassan0001 View Post
      @fazalwahab

      Thanks for working out the detailed information.

      Information i requested was that out of US$ 25,000, how much will go into govt. treasury in form of VAT/General Sales Tax, Custom Duties, Income taxes etc. That will provide us an insight into how much the car would cost without govt taxes in US.

      Civic Turbo Pakistan
      In Pakistan, Sales tax is around 17% on sales price fixed by company where as custom duties, excise and other import and local taxes are around 10-13%. It means that out of PKR 3.1m price of Vtec Turbo (which includes sales tax @17% and other taxes at 13% - assumption), the actual price of car comes arount to PKR 2.1m.

      USDM Touring Turbo
      Lets see how much of US$ 25k ( or PKR 2.62m @PKR 105/$) is the actual cost of car. Only then we would be able to know whether the stripping off of features on Pakistani version was due to greediness of local Honda or were they surrounded by budget constraints.


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      Deliveries are starting first weeknif august

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      Quote Originally Posted by stonner View Post
      Ok so i got a call from my dealership asking me to make full payment and collect the car within 60 days. Some friends are saying delivery will not be possible till Nov/Dec which is obviously not good since it will be 2016 invoiced car. What do you suggest ... Should I pay or hold?
      When did you booked?

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      Quote Originally Posted by stonner View Post
      Ok so i got a call from my dealership asking me to make full payment and collect the car within 60 days. Some friends are saying delivery will not be possible till Nov/Dec which is obviously not good since it will be 2016 invoiced car. What do you suggest ... Should I pay or hold?
      Dear friend when you have booked the car in which date?


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      Delivery Expected To Start By Late Aug/Sept.... They Will Followup With Schedule
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      7th June ... Payorder of 6th June.

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      Dear friend when you have booked the car in which date?


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      Quote Originally Posted by ghayyour View Post
      I don't understand how come few members here judge that someone is potential buyer or not? I would love to know this secret formula.


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      Sir ginti k total 2 ya 3 log hain is pooray thread main jinhain bura lag raha hai. Inhain samajh nahi aa rahi k 10 lakh ki booking karwanay say inho nay honda atlas ko nahi khareed liya, aik gaari ki advance payment ki hai sirf. And they are calling the ones who have booked and are not happy and the genuine prospective buyers as chaska party too.

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      Quote Originally Posted by zuhaibafzal View Post
      Sir kuch negative comments corolla ke thread mein ho jay phir? Quality issues toh uss mein bhe buhat hain. What you say?


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      Sir I remember at the the time of Corolla's launch how much criticism was done. Everyone did it, me you and many others. But Corolla is an old topic now. The latest is civic. Atleast dont call the people who are doing criticism as corolla lovers, chaska party, etc. etc.

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      Quote Originally Posted by irfananwar View Post
      Sir ginti k total 2 ya 3 log hain is pooray thread main jinhain bura lag raha hai. Inhain samajh nahi aa rahi k 10 lakh ki booking karwanay say inho nay honda atlas ko nahi khareed liya, aik gaari ki advance payment ki hai sirf. And they are calling the ones who have booked and are not happy and the genuine prospective buyers as chaska party too.
      Dear yahan baat ginti k total 2-3 logon ko bura lagnay ki Nai ha. Teak ha the cars which Honda has displayed has lot of quality issue etc. But in issue ko Kitni dafa discuss karna ha? Delivery start ho jaay ak dafa actual owner feedback bi aa jaay ga. there are many other positive aspects which can be discussed here for the time.

      BTW wo jo 3 4 log Han, they are the one keeping this thread active for around 1.5 year or more with the valuable authentic information before this car has launched.


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      Quote Originally Posted by arkhitekt View Post

      Though the stuff that others say to us, I did keep you in mind for that. Sorry for bringing this up now but hope you remember blocking the thread some time back and despite another member resorting to my age and gender that post is still there today despite the fact I didn't point any such thing to that member earlier.


      https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=272964
      I was that member and i was provoked by the way how you conveniently termed my opinion that Grande would give a better fuel economy than civic as an "emotional" synopsis rather than asking me as to how did i come to that conclusion. If you would have asked me for my reasons, i would have obviously discussed what made me come to that conclusion. Right or wrong was to come much later. But u passed on a decree of me being emotional and it provoked me. Ur elder than me, ur supposed to take junior members along and not discourage them. Even if we are wrong, a simple discussion would have prevented this escalation

      Dont worry i informed Fazal bhai myself immediately after giving that reply.



      Respected ali bhai, i dont even drive a corolla. Im NOT a rolla fan boy. I dont know the criteria you have to judge somebody as being a prospective buyer and not. But Alhamdolillah i am a "self professed" rational buyer who decided to wait for the car to come and then go ahead with buying civic.

      In case its forgotten, i had been actively participating when these were two different threads for civic. And i was the one who was getting authentic leaks about the prototypes landing at the Honda Factory. I was also the one who informed pakwheels that honda was contemplating a change in the bumper design but as we can see they didnt go ahead with it.

      Now i cant go around giving out my bank account number publicly for people to believe im a prospective buyer or not. But calling members ignorant if they consider the new civic as of a lesser quality than expected or in comparison to lets say grande is also not desirable.

      We all would love for a discussion on the rims and the add ons to start but at the moment for the greater good of everyone, not only on Pak wheels but for also the ones beyond it, we should unite and tell Honda Atlas that this wont work anymore.

      From how it has become now, This thread has become divided into groups; of the ones who dont want anything to be said against the new civic, the ones who want Atlas to mend its ways by rectifying its mistakes and the ones who just want to be heard that they are disappointed and didnt like the civic.

      All three have the freedom to express their views and the other two should have the patience and tolerance to accept their views and not judge them for it.

      At the end of the day we are Pakistanis and we are one. Purpose of this discussion thread was to help each other and not fight with each other. Regardless of which company we work for or what preference we have.

      If it makes you come back to this thread actively then i sincerely apologise for my previous comments from past. But i would also request you to develope a thick skin as an elder and guide the younger lot and educate us when we are not correct about something by discussing it with us and not just passing judgements.

      You, Nabeel, innocent devil and arhkhan are the stars of this thread and it wont be the same without you guys. But please do have the patience and tolerance to hear others out even if their opinion is unbearable.

      Peace and respect for all.

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      Quote Originally Posted by InNoCeNt_DeViL View Post
      Have you guys seen the rush at different showrooms !
      Honda defence pe 3 din se poora imtiaz super market ka mela Honda defence mein saja hota hai
      Display units ki halat kerdi hai is awaam ne
      Yesterday i saw a deep scratch on rear bumper on one car and countless marks and scratches on the foot board panel and interior almost on all display units
      Yaar ab kas kas k jootay latein marne k liye hoti hai gari ?
      This is how you check quality ? Log arm rest pe latak k jhoolay jhool rahay hein inteha ki hui hai din mein 1000 banday beth rahay hein display units mein what are we expecting then fit lagri hogi quality ?
      Ahmed bhai me aj Honda palace pe gaya tha I have seen the dekhte hi pehli bt jo ai wo thi yaarr "it's huge" or yuha pe koi rush wagera nhn hui thi logon ki bro.. But quality issues were there but I haven't seen any major issue bus plastic trim ki or door joint ki mark thi uspe bhi.. But in simple words iam in love with this beauty bus ab ap mujhe ye batae me Premio sale karun ya nhn.?

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      People saying why are members comparing it with corolla. Let me ask what else is there to compare it with, locally ? Secondly no need to get touchy over criticism and negative feedback. It will help rectify the problems.
      The men are back. @TGT.

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      I really want to personally check it out but sadly no dealership in Abbottabad.
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      Quote Originally Posted by xaini12 View Post
      Dear sir

      We are talking about the issue at hand which is honda..so toyota and suzuki are no angels but again issue at hand is honda as no one else launched honda civic x..
      now i booked 2 cars and 2 of my immediate family members 2 more..so we are not just non buyers or non potential ones or blabbing
      Now we all are seriously pissed, this was my first ever honda purchase and i got my expectations up by seeing international model..my bad..its fine . what amazing is there is 3-5 lacs premium on car with ready buyers linedup so i can cash in good profit..so i can simply sell away and be happy about it..why all the whining? Right?
      Its simply because i want to see things improve by positive critism, i want to see value for money and i want to see honda do a better job which honda is capable of, whats wrong in asking honda to do thier jobs for which they are paid for? When this become negative thinking?
      All in all this is very positive to say right to right and wrong to wrong
      Pls dont take any offence but i was just trying to understand your point of view
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      I have the utmost respect for your emotions/sentiments and i know where you coming from. Now, Some are more disappointed some less and some are not disappointed at all may be because they were being realistic when they booked their cars with respect to knowing that the cars offered in pakistan will definitely going to differ to that offered elsewhere especially in the States, where the most amount of competition within the auto industry and also the govt. there have strict regulations for safety features and the like. This is ins't the first time we are getting a new model, in the past there has always been some differences between our cars and the cars sold elsewhere, be it convenience features and/or standard safety ones so expecting the very same quality or features in a pkdm civic this time is according to me is a bit unrealistic. I do not know the exact price for the top of the line TOURING model offered in the states but i think it's somewhere around the 26500$ mark, which if you convert to pkr is almost 2.8 million before duty and taxes and the lot.

      Furthermore, just to add i am not against people criticizing the car where it deserves but please be a little realistic in the approach and alongside keep the pressure on the companies so that they somehow offer better quality products in the future.

      Regards,
      309.
      VTEC did not kicked in ooooo

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