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    Default 10th Generation Civic Exclusive Pakistan Launch

    Check the delivery status of your booked Honda vehicle > http://www.honda.com.pk/CarDelivery#/

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    This Thread is dedicated to the discussion/ launch regarding the most anticipated next generation Civic by Honda Atlas [ The Civic X]. Share your thoughts, opinion, expectations, wish list and anything related to the next Civic.

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    Meanwhile all members who booked car and waiting for delivery, please send me a PM if you want to be listed in the Fan/ owners thread here > https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/civ...wners-fan-club

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      Quote Originally Posted by syedahmedsaad View Post
      Sir, are you really a senior pakwheeler???

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      Quote Originally Posted by muhammad.m.raza.9 View Post
      sorry? those who pre booked and got their cars can get 2 lacks premium over it without even liking the car lol this is pakistan bro
      lol thats another case!

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      Quote Originally Posted by vik_vik View Post
      @chinyoti First three pictures are I guess Urban Titanium or Modren Steel Metallic and the last 2 pics are Luner Silver. I am uploading a video for Lunar Silver
      I felt it to be modern steel Mettalic so I asked you. Another guy commented it to be urban titanium. Still looks grey urban titanium is more brownish.

      But maybe my fones lighting issue
      Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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      Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
      Guys.. what happens if as an owner you go and pickup the car on this Friday as delivery started.. you see the interior issues like gaps between panels, dash board and A pillar or anything on the metal body itself.. How the dealer take it? I mean will they entertain your refusal of accepting the delivery.

      Because respected member @ghayyour many pages above mentioned that a huge number of cars are already ready to ship.. Many people might be getting cars even with premium on it not realizing that they might have issues with delivery as far as the things we have seen on multiple cars in multiple cities. The excitement of to be become first one can be a little risky if you see your car with issues on day of pickup.

      Is there a concept of courtesy car if on day of delivery you refused to take delivery? I want to know and its better if you guys share proper procedure here for the benefit of everyone. I know second and third batch and so on will get better but what about the first batch and how many cars approximately will be delivered during this first batch . Thx

      Since people are so excited receiving their brand new bling bling car. Paying 3 million and showroom people make you realise hamne gari deike ap ke upper Ehsan kera hai. Pesei deike to Sabi gari lelete hain ap akeile thori hain. Hongei apkei baap k pesei. Gari lein aur chalte banei.

      Maybe they would tell you politely sir bring in the car at 1000km service all issues would be fixed.

      PS: I have seen about 3 cars. Their are issues with localization of thread car but honestly I didn't witness carelessness.
      Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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      Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
      That's horrible welding. 140 per koi toouch khul gaya khuda na khawasta.

      Sir are you going to keep Altis or shifting to civic anyway?

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      Quote Originally Posted by aliusman420 View Post
      My contact in Honda in Karachi told me that the display units indeed have quality issues because they are just there for the display, the actual cars to be delivered to the people will be free of such defects. This information is quite reliable as he gets first hand info.


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      I agree that the finish of welding is poor but the strength would be the same as required by Honda japan.

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      Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
      I agree that the finish of welding is poor but the strength would be the same as required by Honda japan.

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      Sir I salute you for your statement.

      Putting in the name Japan doesn't strengthen the welding.
      Then build the whole car ugly but please.... strength should be same as required by Honda Japan
      for the idiots of Pakistan who will still pay more than 3 million to buy this.

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      Quote Originally Posted by huzaifa.haroon View Post
      I agree that the finish of welding is poor but the strength would be the same as required by Honda japan.

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      Hello guys. So today out of ordinary I decided to take some time out of my schedule to have a detailed look at PKDM civic. My first stop was Honda Avenue Islamabad.

      First impressions.
      Well the car looks good in person. Pretty much the same as what I saw back in United States.

      As soon as I opened the door to sit in. Hopped in. Seats?
      Dang! Seats are totally not the same. Much much downgraded. Stitching of that so called leather is really pathetic.

      I won't talk about those door welds and all as it has already been discussed and described in detail by the OP of this thread.

      Coming towards the center console. Well. They've ruined center console by shoving in that stupid good for nothing screen and the arm rest isn't even adjustable. Thumbs up Atlas for ruining that center console and arm rest.

      Uneven gaps between different panels in interior caught my attention. See the pictures attached below.
      I mean for heaven's sake Atlas. You people are charging us 3.0 million rupee for this very car and look at this build quality. I really expected something better from you people this time. But what you people have come up with is absolutely disappointing. Heck even my 9th gen civic or 2015 City doesn't have these kinda flaws.
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      Here. Have a look at the finish.
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      Walked out of Honda Avenue in confusion. I couldn't believe my eyes. Was that really a Honda Civic about which I used to brag among Toyota Corolla owners that build quality of Civic is far better? Well.. I'm still in a state of shock.
      Checked three cars in Honda avenue and all of them had these issues.

      Since I had to go Pindi saddar for some errand. I decided to pay a visit to Honda Centre to check the cars on display over there as I had heard that there were some issues with initial lot of cars. Checked 3 cars over there and every car had these finishing issues and build quality issues. I even got a car opened which was reserved for a customer. Even that car had same issues.

      Conclusion : Totally disappointed and surprised what Atlas has done to this car.
      I would surely think more than twice before buying this very PKDM Civic and yes this is coming from a loyal PKDM Honda customer/enthusiast who has owned 6th,7th,8th,9th gen civic.

      Regards.

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      Now.. something we need to research and we need to know how its being done on PKDM. There is slight difference between a 2L and 1.5 T rear suspension system. for better handling, agility and driving pleasure 1.5T has some tweaks comparing 2L.

      Civic across globe has multi-link rear but there are some connected facts

      In US 2L gets 16" wheels. 1.5T gets 17" standard.
      Civic in Australia 1.8 gets 16" 1.5T 17"
      Thailand 1.8 have 16", 1.5T 17" standard.
      Indonesian only have 1.5T and its 17".


      I was at local dealer and I discussed about the new multi-link rear suspension on Civic X. As I mentioned many time before as well even 9th was having multi link in US as well as Thailand. I asked him him whats new.. and I came to know that the multi-liNK has been improved over previous by making it better as far as the suspension design. The major development and improvement is the availability of hydraulic fluid filled rear bushing. Yes this is something you see on high end cars and Honda provided this to 1.5T only. The fluid filed busing gives much better control on noise, vibration and handling.

      Its not there on 2L models in US and I was told by Honda product specialist that availability of standard 17" wheel is not just for making car look better or upscale but it has a lot to do with the proper handling and suspension setup.


      Sadly 1.5 T PKDM is the only Civic across globe with 16" wheels. This no wonder tends to push me and think that PKDM Civic is/ might not be with the hydraulic fluid filled rear bushing which actually Honda very well documented and its part of their detailed press kit and they projected it a lot. Also the other main thing associated with the suspension is the wide stance and lower COG on Civic X.. which is about 14 to 15 mm lower of the outgoing 9th.

      We also know that PKDM civic is not only with 16" wheels on turbo, it is also has a ground clearance of 153mm which is 20mm more than other global Civics. This means that PKDM suspension is though a new multi-link rear but its not what we have on overseas model. I would not apply international review of handling on PKDM as all inputs are completely changed. I wish I could test drive and tell you an immediate difference but I am sure there will eb a major difference.

      Will anyone call the dealer and ask what they have in rear suspension? Also are there stabilizers bars as on international model because Honda website just don't talk about anything which matters most.

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      it seems like they have cut every part of it with knife and scissor .. its really a point to ponder with a big worry ... !!
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      I will not accept a car with on the spot visible issues. I don't know how things work there


      Quote Originally Posted by chinyoti View Post
      Since people are so excited receiving their brand new bling bling car. Paying 3 million and showroom people make you realise hamne gari deike ap ke upper Ehsan kera hai. Pesei deike to Sabi gari lelete hain ap akeile thori hain. Hongei apkei baap k pesei. Gari lein aur chalte banei.

      Maybe they would tell you politely sir bring in the car at 1000km service all issues would be fixed.

      PS: I have seen about 3 cars. Their are issues with localization of thread car but honestly I didn't witness carelessness.
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      Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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      Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
      I will not accept a car with on the spot visible issues. I don't know how things work there

      No one should and neither would i, But what im saying is that you must have by now realized people saying Pakistani gari hai itna to chalta hai, I meant where are we going as nation we have accepted to get low quality being Pakistani?

      When your paying full then whats wrong with it. Yes i have rented cars in Indonesia / Thailand / Malaysia their cars have hard plastics and cars sourced from those countries are of more or less same qualities. i.e Hilux, Avanza, APV, Terious,

      PS: 17" rims would have taken the Turbo variant to another level honda atlas has made a blunder not providing 17" rims in turbo too.

      They would probably give reasoning for tire size not being made in pakistan and the goverment pushing localization. Bla bla. Still besides plastics most of the car is imported
      Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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      i was shocked and hurt even to read few of the members calling others "chaska party", "cannot afford it", "toyota party" kind of statements just because of difference of opinion, to those (without taking names) let me assure there are people who with their own (no, not dad's) money can afford this 3.2 mil civic, heck they can also afford a 5mil Audi A4, but knowing you can buy and knowing what's value for money for you and your needs is two different things.

      Kindly STOP saying such statements, the only thing you show by such statements is your own way of thinking nothing more nothing less ...
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      Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
      Did I say something to you ? I am sure I have not made a personal comment against anybody. I am sorry if you feel offended but these are my personal views and I am entitled to express them as anyone else on this forum.



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      Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
      Now.. something we need to research and we need to know how its being done on PKDM. There is slight difference between a 2L and 1.5 T rear suspension system. for better handling, agility and driving pleasure 1.5T has some tweaks comparing 2L.

      Civic across globe has multi-link rear but there are some connected facts

      In US 2L gets 16" wheels. 1.5T gets 17" standard.
      Civic in Australia 1.8 gets 16" 1.5T 17"
      Thailand 1.8 have 16", 1.5T 17" standard.
      Indonesian only have 1.5T and its 17".


      I was at local dealer and I discussed about the new multi-link rear suspension on Civic X. As I mentioned many time before as well even 9th was having multi link in US as well as Thailand. I asked him him whats new.. and I came to know that the multi-liNK has been improved over previous by making it better as far as the suspension design. The major development and improvement is the availability of hydraulic fluid filled rear bushing. Yes this is something you see on high end cars and Honda provided this to 1.5T only. The fluid filed busing gives much better control on noise, vibration and handling.

      Its not there on 2L models in US and I was told by Honda product specialist that availability of standard 17" wheel is not just for making car look better or upscale but it has a lot to do with the proper handling and suspension setup.


      Sadly 1.5 T PKDM is the only Civic across globe with 16" wheels. This no wonder tends to push me and think that PKDM Civic is/ might not be with the hydraulic fluid filled rear bushing which actually Honda very well documented and its part of their detailed press kit and they projected it a lot. Also the other main thing associated with the suspension is the wide stance and lower COG on Civic X.. which is about 14 to 15 mm lower of the outgoing 9th.

      We also know that PKDM civic is not only with 16" wheels on turbo, it is also has a ground clearance of 153mm which is 20mm more than other global Civics. This means that PKDM suspension is though a new multi-link rear but its not what we have on overseas model. I would not apply international review of handling on PKDM as all inputs are completely changed. I wish I could test drive and tell you an immediate difference but I am sure there will eb a major difference.

      Will anyone call the dealer and ask what they have in rear suspension? Also are there stabilizers bars as on international model because Honda website just don't talk about anything which matters most.

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      Absolutely gutted! Tricked and stripped in the suspension too!!!
      Atlas is now for sure selling shape this time and minting serious profits..
      Dawood Yamaha wala haal hoga juld or Honda khudh company operate karay ga... Pakistan is a huge market

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