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    Default 10th Generation Civic Exclusive Pakistan Launch

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      Quote Originally Posted by makhdoom123 View Post
      In pakistan we are not even sure if premium which is called 87 RON is really 87RON or not.
      Mixing impurities is another story
      That is a different story, what is to stop the pumps from selling the regular fuel as premium?

      The question is when we have two contradictory statements from Honda PK and Chief Engineer of the new engine, who is more likely to be right ?
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      Another video where Yuji Matsumochi confirms the same 87 Octane requirement for 1.5L Turbo. It is around 2 mins 25 secs in the video.

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      HAPL has very low credibility. No?

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      Quote Originally Posted by imtiz_ahmed View Post
      In that video the translator clearly says

      This runs on regular 87 RON gasoline.

      The next question was if using premium fuel will give better performance and his reply was

      It will still be same performance.


      Now this would be a really strange thing to me if same number of RON, 87 in this case, means different quality of fuel in different countries.
      This has been discussed before many times with same video. North America uses a different rating. 87 ron there is equivalent to 91 Ron in the rest of the world.



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      I remember my chemistry sir mentioned that Pakistani fuel is hardly 82 Ron. Though they mention 87 but that's not the case always as there is no check system and refineries are old and making profit by selling substandard fuel. The explanation why normal fuel results in knocking in civic and exi.

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      Quote Originally Posted by roony View Post
      This has been discussed before many times with same video. North America uses a different rating. 87 ron there is equivalent to 91 Ron in the rest of the world.

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      I see, I probably should have checked the thread before posting. But in the following link when giving interview an Indonesian magazine this guys is saying the same thing. Now I do not know if US rating is applied to Indonesia too.

      http://motorfreakz.com/read/b8b/4/17...-ALL-NEW-CIVIC

      M: Dengan turbocharger apakah sudah sesuai dengan kualitas BBM di Indonesia?
      Y: Aplikasi turbocharger pada Civic tidak menuntut kualitas bahan bakar yang terlalu tinggi. Karena kami memberikan jaminan mesin 1.500 cc turbocharger ini bisa berjalan normal dengan bahan bakar dengan rate oktan paling minimal 87. Dan kami optimis dengan kualitas BBM di Indonesia jauh lebih baik.



      Anyways I have the turbo and with complete unavailability of HOBC in twin cities from last few days, I'll find it out the hard way.
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      2016 Honda Civic Leather Seats review. I know the PKDM leather is a bad quality however I didn't know that most of the seats are leatherette aka vinyl. Thank you but no thank you for the 60K leather which isn't even all of the seats only the centre which accounts for more like 30-40% of the seat. So glad I didn't go for the Leather package.

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      Quote Originally Posted by imtiz_ahmed View Post
      I see, I probably should have checked the thread before posting. But in the following link when giving interview an Indonesian magazine this guys is saying the same thing. Now I do not know if US rating is applied to Indonesia too.

      INTERVIEW YUJI MATSUMOCHI, CHIEF ENGINEER GLOBAL ASSISTANT LEADER ALL NEW CIVIC - MOTOR FREAKZ

      M: Dengan turbocharger apakah sudah sesuai dengan kualitas BBM di Indonesia?
      Y: Aplikasi turbocharger pada Civic tidak menuntut kualitas bahan bakar yang terlalu tinggi. Karena kami memberikan jaminan mesin 1.500 cc turbocharger ini bisa berjalan normal dengan bahan bakar dengan rate oktan paling minimal 87. Dan kami optimis dengan kualitas BBM di Indonesia jauh lebih baik.



      Anyways I have the turbo and with complete unavailability of HOBC in twin cities from last few days, I'll find it out the hard way.
      dont know about Indonesia. They are probably just repeating what comes from the US. Anyways GL with your search.

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      Quote Originally Posted by danish.sohail View Post
      I remember my chemistry sir mentioned that Pakistani fuel is hardly 82 Ron. Though they mention 87 but that's not the case always as there is no check system and refineries are old and making profit by selling substandard fuel. The explanation why normal fuel results in knocking in civic and exi.

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      he is right, actually the ron number at refineries is almost, barely 87 but fuel deteriorates over time, from refinery to depot to mixed with already stale fuel in fuel station's tanks. rest in case of civic, it won't cause problems in short run except engine will run in detuned state but lead content (which I believe is present in Pakistani fuel, more in HOBC) would damage cat cons and other parts too. but only time can tell.
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      Quote Originally Posted by imtiz_ahmed View Post
      In the following video around 5 min 8 sec mark, the Chief Powertrain Engineer of Honda Civic 2016 Yuji Matsumochi is asked if the turbo is designed to run on premium fuel. See the video for his answer.



      Who is lying, the Chief Powertrain Engineer or the Honda Atlas? lol
      The octane number of pakistan translates to their different ron. Our 92Ron is their 87 ron something like that. Thats why he said that

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      87 US & Canada is 91 elsewhere. US,rating is approximately 4 to 5 points less mathematically. In fact in US it's R+M/2 and not RON. I explained it here many times. In Indonesia it's already 91 or 92 sold as regular so no issues.

      Read this which was posted before the launch of Civic X in Pakistan PKDM 2016 Honda Civic: A Pandora Box Full Of Confusion - PakWheels Blog

      Also for PKDM CIVIC check manual and fuel lid . It clearly says min 91.. so now it doesn't matter at all. Follow what manufacturer says.


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      Quote Originally Posted by imtiz_ahmed View Post
      That is a different story, what is to stop the pumps from selling the regular fuel as premium?

      The question is when we have two contradictory statements from Honda PK and Chief Engineer of the new engine, who is more likely to be right ?
      Quote Originally Posted by imtiz_ahmed View Post
      Another video where Yuji Matsumochi confirms the same 87 Octane requirement for 1.5L Turbo. It is around 2 mins 25 secs in the video.

      Quote Originally Posted by imtiz_ahmed View Post
      I see, I probably should have checked the thread before posting. But in the following link when giving interview an Indonesian magazine this guys is saying the same thing. Now I do not know if US rating is applied to Indonesia too.

      INTERVIEW YUJI MATSUMOCHI, CHIEF ENGINEER GLOBAL ASSISTANT LEADER ALL NEW CIVIC - MOTOR FREAKZ

      M: Dengan turbocharger apakah sudah sesuai dengan kualitas BBM di Indonesia?
      Y: Aplikasi turbocharger pada Civic tidak menuntut kualitas bahan bakar yang terlalu tinggi. Karena kami memberikan jaminan mesin 1.500 cc turbocharger ini bisa berjalan normal dengan bahan bakar dengan rate oktan paling minimal 87. Dan kami optimis dengan kualitas BBM di Indonesia jauh lebih baik.



      Anyways I have the turbo and with complete unavailability of HOBC in twin cities from last few days, I'll find it out the hard way.
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      I think, we do not have any say when Honda Pakistan clearly say that 1.5 should only run on HI OCTANE....

      Quote Originally Posted by fazalwahab11375 View Post
      87 US & Canada is 91 elsewhere. US,rating is approximately 4 to 5 points less mathematically. In fact in US it's R+M/2 and not RON. I explained it here many times. In Indonesia it's already 91 or 92 sold as regular so no issues.

      Read this which was posted before the launch of Civic X in Pakistan PKDM 2016 Honda Civic: A Pandora Box Full Of Confusion - PakWheels Blog

      Also for PKDM CIVIC check manual and fuel lid . It clearly says min 91.. so now it doesn't matter at all. Follow what manufacturer says.


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      Not sure about the kit. It is what they give nothing additional was asked from HONDA
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      With bodykit?

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      Quote Originally Posted by muhammad.ali.latif View Post
      Not sure about the kit. It is what they give nothing additional was asked from HONDA
      Thanks buddy. Im looking for a turbo with bodykit at the moment.

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      Same car in other countries runs on regular too, which is 87,88 or 89 btw
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      US 87 is equivalent to international 91 that we use, US calculates differently.

      Quote Originally Posted by rajaahmed96 View Post
      Same car in other countries runs on regular too, which is 87,88 or 89 btw
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      Quote Originally Posted by StrikerX View Post
      US 87 is equivalent to international 91 that we use, US calculates differently.
      RON should be same for all countries?
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      Quote Originally Posted by rajaahmed96 View Post
      RON should be same for all countries?
      Look up AKI (RON+MON)/2 US formula for RON rating calculation. And please use search feature on forums. This topic has been discussed to death many times before.

      See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Octane...mber_.28RON.29

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