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    Default Honda Civic New 2nd Gen Navigation Android based system.

    Hello fellow Pakwheelers,

    Starting a new thread after a very long gap of activity on Pakwheels and this time its about the factory fitted navigation system of 9th Gen Honda Civic.

    I booked my Civic Vti Oriel Prosmatic with full options (Leather + Navigation) in early May 2015 and got it delivered the next day . Car is good Alhumdulilah but the igo3 navigation system it came with gradually started acting really wired until yesterday when it decided to go completely nuts. I read many threads about the problems faced by civic owners with the navigation unit provided by tracking world (TW) but the thing that made me wonder was that TW had good reputation / units in reborn and city aspire as i have personally used and witnessed their sound, video and compatibility in both the vehicles. The problems that started originating for me were:

    1. Frequent loss of steering controls.
    2. Reverse camera sometimes decides to start automatically even when driving forward.
    3. Volume suddenly goes down from high to low automatically.
    4. Excessive beeps from the unit without a reason.
    5. Skipping of tracks when played with USB.
    6. USB interface often gets stuck and fails to recognize a USB flash drive attached.
    7. Delay time on startup.
    8. Delay time for cameras.
    9. Pathetic camera quality.
    10. Seriously Pathetic Sound quality.
    11. Failed outgoing phone calls.

    These are the issues that ruined my driving experience especially after spending 70K for this crap unit. Additional issues are explained in detail here (https://www.pakwheels.com/forums/car...stem-9th-civic). I however faced only the issues mentioned above.

    Yesterday I gave a call to Tracking world and talked to their senior management about this pathetic unit and surprisingly they admitted but, blamed it on HONDA. The person on the other side briefed me that Honda pushed us to launch android based unit before the new Toyota Grande launch (which has a android based system) to compete in the market and we had to do it forcefully on a very short notice and without proper testing. He then told me that we have a brand new 2nd generation of android unit which has a full blown android system and has no issues at all what so ever. The specs (yet to be verified) of the new unit as described by the TW manger are:

    a. Android 4.4.2 (Verified)
    b. Capacitative multi touch display (Verified)
    c. Processor: ARM Cortex A9 (Rockchip - RK3188) 32 bit. 2.2 Ghz Dual Core processor (Verified by Antutu)
    d. 1 GB Ram (Verified by Antutu)
    e. Total 16 Gb of Internal memory (4 Gb occupied by system + 12 Gb free for user) (Verified by Antutu)
    f. Full blown android system including Play store (Verified)
    g. Built-in Wifi (Verified)
    h. Full HD Display (Verified)

    To cut it short, its a complete android tablet. I have tested it for more than 6 hours now and i can confirm that:

    i. Wifi works flawlessly. I connected it with my wireless router at home.
    ii. Added my Google account and it synced all my emails, contacts etc.
    iii. Playstore is working and you can actually download apps and games etc.
    iv. Sound quality has improved 200 %. I can compare the difference easily. Its way better than the sound quality of reborn and aspire units. I'm not a sound fanatic but can differentiate between good and bad sound easily.
    v. It has an HD display which has definitely improved the display quality. Videos are stunning. You have to see it to believe it. I watched a few videos on daily motion
    vi. Steering controls are more responsive and there is no delay anymore.
    vii. The whole units starts within approx. 2 to 4 or 5 sec max. Back camera is engaged within a sec. no more delays in reversing.
    viii. There is a pre-installed app "easy connect". You can connect your android and iPhone through this app and control the phone from the unit's screen as if you are using the phone. Yet to try this thing out, sounds very interesting.
    ix. The whole experience is very fast and fluid without any hiccups. All apps open instantly and work like a charm.

    A few members were confused on getting this system, so I thought to share my detailed experience and post my recommendations. I highly recommend this system. I shall try to post videos of it tomorrow In sha Allah in action so you can have an idea of its startup time, fluidity, speed and other issues. Please let me know what else you want to see on video . One thing I can clearly and rather proudly state is that it is far more superior in quality, speed and fluidity than the units coming with the new Toyota Corolla. I've used both the systems and i can compare easily.
    Here comes a few pictures for your delight. You can have a good idea of the HD quality display even from the pictures.

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    Bro is there still humming in this unit when nothing is being played and the volume is set at 25+


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    how much will I have to pay, I have igo2 and car was bought in October 2014

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    Quote Originally Posted by afnanSJfayaz View Post
    Bro is there still humming in this unit when nothing is being played and the volume is set at 25+


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    Quote Originally Posted by faizan7535 View Post
    how much will I have to pay, I have igo2 and car was bought in October 2014
    There is absolutely no humming at all. I can confirm you that for sure. You'll have to pay 15k if your unit is still in warranty. These new units are short now a days and you might have to wait for a week or 2.

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    Thanks. One thing more. Did you give your remote back too which came with the igo3 model and get a new one or did u keep the old one. If the latter, does the remote work with the new unit?


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    Can you confirm if it has 2 rca outs or 3. I doubt it wont have 3 rca outs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by afnanSJfayaz View Post
    Thanks. One thing more. Did you give your remote back too which came with the igo3 model and get a new one or did u keep the old one. If the latter, does the remote work with the new unit?


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    Yes they asked for the old remote and replaced with the one that came in the new box. I dont know if the old remote works with the new unit as i did not test it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzammil73 View Post
    Can you confirm if it has 2 rca outs or 3. I doubt it wont have 3 rca outs.
    Sorry bro. I am not sure about that. I should have taken a picture of the back while it was still unplugged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tausifs View Post
    Sorry bro. I am not sure about that. I should have taken a picture of the back while it was still unplugged.
    Can apps be installed from USB into the system, if that is possible that would be great since google maps navigation doesn't work in Pakistan but a modified version installs navigation and works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdogar View Post
    Can apps be installed from USB into the system, if that is possible that would be great since google maps navigation doesn't work in Pakistan but a modified version installs navigation and works.
    OP mentioned google play comes preinstalled which means google maps can be downloaded in a legitimate way
    What goes around, comes around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilalicious View Post
    OP mentioned google play comes preinstalled which means google maps can be downloaded in a legitimate way
    Dear, i have mentioned that google maps works but google maps navigation doesn't work in Pakistan , so one has to install a modified google maps APK file which installs navigation and it works in Pakistan.
    If have confusion try to use navigation and confusion will be cleared.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdogar View Post
    Dear, i have mentioned that google maps works but google maps navigation doesn't work in Pakistan , so one has to install a modified google maps APK file which installs navigation and it works in Pakistan.
    If have confusion try to use navigation and confusion will be cleared.
    Well you can host the file on any web server and download it wirelessly on the nav.
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    Hey. I just called Tracking World after seeing this thread, to get them to change my nav and they flat out denied that there was any new system coming out. Just said that they'll just replace the igo3 if i'm having problems. Just got the car 3 weeks ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzammil73 View Post
    Well you can host the file on any web server and download it wirelessly on the nav.
    But it will install only if the unit allows outside sources installation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdogar View Post
    But it will install only if the unit allows outside sources installation.
    Android os allows to install files from 3rd party sources. Afterall it is the reason why it has got so much successful.
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    @Bilalicious @Sdogar @Muzammil73

    Sorry for my ignorance. But would you guys mind sharing the benefits of having this google navigation because I personally think that for day to day usage TW maps are much more accurate, authentic and designed as per our Pakistani specifications. Like we're about to get the update with metro information and routes. I think this unit comes with TW navigation preinstalled and runs very smoothly at least on this system. OR am I missing some major advantage of google maps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muzammil73 View Post
    Well you can host the file on any web server and download it wirelessly on the nav.
    Just wanted to share........... I downloaded all my old songs collection from my network connected Western Digital Cloud storage drive wirelessly to the unit through WD share app on android playstore. I'm enjoying the endless possibilities. There is a preinstalled app for realtime car vital stats monitoring through the bluetooth app for OBD2 scanner. I have an OBD2 scanner lying somewhere. Will try it out and report soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tausifs View Post
    @Bilalicious @Sdogar @Muzammil73

    Sorry for my ignorance. But would you guys mind sharing the benefits of having this google navigation because I personally think that for day to day usage TW maps are much more accurate, authentic and designed as per our Pakistani specifications. Like we're about to get the update with metro information and routes. I think this unit comes with TW navigation preinstalled and runs very smoothly at least on this system. OR am I missing some major advantage of google maps?
    Google maps are much more detailed and updated as compared to these TW maps. Specially for smaller towns it is much better with even smaller roads and villages present. In TW maps you will not find most of the smaller towns, villages names and places. Another advantage is that google maps navigation has satellite view, which shows the actual buildings and roads and natural features and looks very realistic using it. Roads are shown as per their sizes, smaller roads are usually avoided in navigation which saves inconvenience(i personally have experience this issue, once in Multan i used TW maps for navigation and it took me to very small streets and i got stuck and rather than saving time it wasted time).
    Search database of google is also much greater than these maps because it is being updated and added through users by google map maker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdogar View Post
    Google maps are much more detailed and updated as compared to these TW maps. Specially for smaller towns it is much better with even smaller roads and villages present. In TW maps you will not find most of the smaller towns, villages names and places. Another advantage is that google maps navigation has satellite view, which shows the actual buildings and roads and natural features and looks very realistic using it. Roads are shown as per their sizes, smaller roads are usually avoided in navigation which saves inconvenience(i personally have experience this issue, once in Multan i used TW maps for navigation and it took me to very small streets and i got stuck and rather than saving time it wasted time).
    Search database of google is also much greater than these maps because it is being updated and added through users by google map maker.
    That sounds great. Have to give it a try. Can you post the link of that .apk you're talking about so that everyone can benefit from it. By the way it does have google maps preinstalled if you look at the pictures on the main post. Will try playing around with it.
    and as for the map maker, I guess some one added an image of android robot pi**ing on Apple last month somewhere near DHA 3. Google has now fixed it
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    Quote Originally Posted by tausifs View Post
    That sounds great. Have to give it a try. Can you post the link of that .apk you're talking about so that everyone can benefit from it. By the way it does have google maps preinstalled if you look at the pictures on the main post. Will try playing around with it.
    and as for the map maker, I guess some one added an image of android robot pi**ing on Apple last month somewhere near DHA 3. Google has now fixed it
    Here is the link to drop box which has this APK. Download and enjoy :

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/glszasyimt..._root.apk?dl=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sdogar View Post
    Here is the link to drop box which has this APK. Download and enjoy :

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/glszasyimt..._root.apk?dl=0
    Bundle of thanks. Got it. Really appreciated.

    I'll post the results soon.
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