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    Question Upgrading from 8th to 9th Gen Civic

    Dear All,
    Please suggest.
    Shall I upgrade from 8th gen to 9th Gen
    Currently I have 2012 model 8th gen Oriel Prosmatic and I can afford 2012-2013 Model 9th gen oriel Prosmatic.
    Is it worth it or not.

    Things to Compare:

    • Interior
    • Exterior
    • Fuel Economy
    • Motor way Driving
    • City Driving


    Experts and experienced people who have upgraded are requested to help me in making my decision.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboor73 View Post
    9g is heavier than 8gen bro and no engine is not same 8g have R18a1 9g have R18Z1
    Baseless view. 9th Gen is considerably lighter that the 8th Gen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Baseless view. 9th Gen is considerably lighter that the 8th Gen.
    OK then please share share the curb weight of both cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by InNoCeNt_DeViL View Post
    Both are really nice cars
    And its a matter of personal prefernce and choice
    No doubt 8th gen is the best Civic ever assembled here
    That doesnt mean 9th gen is bad
    9th gen just lacks that punch and the so called " Civic " factor
    8th gen has all the style and beauty but 9th gen is better for our local bad and broken roads
    It is something like a Corolla with lil bit of driving pleasure but lacks the driving pleasure Civic used have in all prev gens 6th 7th and 8th

    I kept both Civics side be side for sometime around 1.5 month
    Initially after spending so much on the new one i was in denial ( i knew 8th gen was better for me but still the sum of 25 lacs forced me to think and believe its a worthy upgrade ) my heart was telling me to sell 9th gen and keep 8th gen but then later i disposed off the 8th gen since i got a really nice offer and around 2 lacs above the market price so i sold it
    The 1st day when I brought 9th gen home i was loving it
    The new features like imid display eco button and the smooth and soft drive of new civic really impressed me something i never expected from a civic
    But then next day when i was going to college in the morning i decided to take 8th gen with since 9th gen wasnt insured
    The moment i sat in the car 8th gen i said to myself
    " What the Hell Ahmed ! Seriously , you just spent 25 lacs on a similar thing , this thing gives almost same feel "
    Then i was getting late
    I did overspeeding that day and drove at breakneck speed
    Took some sharp turns at even 80 km/h
    Man what a road grip this car has
    The 9th gen will flip over 2 times if you try to do this in it ...

    Khair its like a love story
    I always had a crush with most of the cars i kept or have
    But 8th gen is like true love ...

    Anyways here is my analysis for daily routine drive

    8th gen over 9th gen

    Its a gem
    A pure gorgeous beauty
    Better styling
    Better acceleration ( 8th gen is 1.8 seconds faster from 0 to 100 )
    Much Better road grip at higher speeds , 9th gen feels so light and like a 9th gen corolla after 120
    Better handling at corners
    Better interior plastics and finishing
    That curvy multiplex meter and dash layout looks better and attractive than 9th gen civic
    Rear reading lights
    Better side mirror indicator design
    Lovely seating position literally gives a feel as if lait k gari chala rahay ho aap
    Dual exhaust finisher
    A great handbrake design and placement i like it
    A great road presence
    Its purely a Man's car as fouad bhai once said


    9th gen over 8th gen

    New shape
    A great car if you are status conscious ( 99% of the ppl just change 8th gen becoz of this factor )

    Better fuel economy
    Soft and extremely comfortable seats ( non leather version )
    Better visibility
    Much much better road clearance just like a Corolla
    I mid display
    Auto off headlights
    Remote trunk opener
    Climate control
    Cruise control
    Better and a bit soft suspension as compared to 8th gen 9th gen feels really soft and smooth however i had michelins in 9th gen and have euro stars in reborn may be thats the reason
    More comfortable for our bad roads
    Once i crossed a really rough and broken road infact it wasnt a road at 80 km/h
    9th gen surely beats 8th gen here
    Solid and heavy doors

    But you cant get best of both Worlds
    Since 9th gen beats 8th gen in above mentioned aspects it lacks that " Civic Fun and punch "

    I would adv save money for 10th gen Civic
    I am sure it will be much better than 9th gen and 8th gen too
    Good Luck !
    So far the BEST reply and i guess spano will now know what to do since civic guys know its all about enjoying the ride which is having excellent road grip and got enough torque to say bye bye to every other car on the road ...... i would also recommend u to plz wait for 10th gen! and 8th gen has far far better resale than 9th gen vti oriel pros!

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    What will be so special in 10GEN? it will be same like 9GEN with little engine difference



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    Quote Originally Posted by slakr View Post
    What will be so special in 10GEN? it will be same like 9GEN with little engine difference



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    Quote Originally Posted by slakr View Post
    What will be so special in 10GEN? it will be same like 9GEN with little engine difference



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    @Spano. If some of your friends or family have this car, borrow or swap for couple of hours and test it both in city and motorway and then decide.
    Be polite on the road. Always give way to others, particularly ambulances and pedestrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spano View Post
    your reply is irrelevant. please help me in my decision with my options.
    thn upgrade is upgrade go for it if u afford it belive me you will really enjoy this civic with owsome petrol comsuption reborn are not good in that sense other wise both car have its own respect

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    Default A final word: NO

    Even though i love the 9th Gen. But to be honest i still prefer driving the 8th Gen. The sense of fun and pleasure available in 8th Gen is not there in 9th. The sheer excitement, grip and precision control is far superior in 8th Gen. As a brotherly advice and suggestion i'd recommend: wait and jump directly to 10th Gen.
    9th is better for fuel economy, gadgets and comfort. For driving pleasure: 8th is still better. Even if you start liking 9th Gen there will be a lot of times you would want to switch back to 8th. You'll miss it quite often

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    Spano sir, for my two cents, please do read my small review and comparison of both generations that I posted when 9th gen was launched.

    It might help you in deciding between the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RollOnBigMaMa View Post
    Spano sir, for my two cents, please do read my small review and comparison of both generations that I posted when 9th gen was launched.

    It might help you in deciding between the two.
    Great comparison. This is also my point of view. The ride should be balanced (comfort + sport ) which 9th gen is. 8th gen is to much towards sportiness, which is only fun if we have proper roads for it. The condition of our roads and traffic jams here and there, one should have a balanced ride.

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    Had both of them in my personal home used cars. People mostly have negative reviews about the 9th gen as compared to the 8th gen but i personally like the 9th gen.

    Reasons for what I like the 9th gen:
    -An aggressive front end including factory fitted projectors
    -Curvy rear end
    -More comfort cuz of better seats as compared to the 8th gen
    -Interior like a super luxury vehicle including the extra display for the fuel economy, radio, time, etc
    -Better fuel economy
    -Climate Control
    -Less cabin noise due to soft suspension
    -Less load on engine due to EPS

    Some cons:
    -Door cards are made up of low quality material as compared to the 8th gen
    -Rear is raised a lot as compared to whole civic generations (but can be lowered in a decent daily driven manner)


    Rest people talk about road grip etc whatsoever, give the EuroStar tires a break and get some quality tires i bet you will get a better road grip.
    And above all, i love my 7th gen the most
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    the question is why spending money on 9th when op has 8th gen which isnt much different in comparison to 8th, rather 8th is more towards sportiness (the thing which honda is proud of!)! no one is talking about resale! 9th gens stick to their owners like elfy! hard to sell them! while reborn goes witch a decent pace! 9th gen has a confused styling! front is sleek and crisp while rear is like a pregnant cow making the overall design dis-proportionate! car has a lost control and if u notice , its tyres are little inwards and the bulky body bulges outwards ! dont wanna write more but there are serious design craps in 9th! much better to go for grande instead of 9th if one wanna change the car asap! 25 lacs worth of money for these small changes arnt worth as said by innocent devil!

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    For those who are saying road grip improves significantly with good tyres
    I had 16" michelin primacy hp in my 9th gen
    Even then it used to vibrate at above 120 to 130
    11th gen Corolla even Xli with eurostars feels better and more stable than 9th gen civic having branded expensive tyres
    8th gen is a class apart if we compare the road grip

    And yes the black arm rest of door trims soon starts to peel off ( 9th gen Civic )
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    Default Upgrading from 8th to 9th Gen Civic

    Well if getting rid of Eurostars makes 9th Gen better, getting rid of Eurostars on 8th will make it much much much better compared to 9th with same ratio as both cars on stock
    Tyres do not play a role in aerodynamic lift at high speed, the 9th feels unstable at 150-160 even with 16" and 205/60 as on my car, while even today my 8th Gen feels stable and confident even at 190+ on 15" and 205/65. When I brake my 9th Gen at high speed, it scares me not in terms of braking force but losing the grip factor. But the 8th makes you feel confident it will stop without going out of balance. The turns like for example leaving the ring road entering on to its vast round interchanges and curved roads that I feel slightly scared to take at a speed of 50kph in 9th can be managed easily in 8th at a speed of 70kph
    Mainstream hardcore cars mostly still use hydraulic steering, a reason which was evident to me after owning a 9th Gen, lack of feedback and steering response compared to hydraulic in 8th
    The climate control does not mean AC compressor works better or the gas is cooler. It is just a fancy gadget to provide psychological satisfaction, doesn't make a car better to drive. If that's the case does it mean a 660cc JDM Honda Zest with climate control is better than 8th Gen Civic???
    Well about Cruise control, as far as i remember @Spano did install it on his 8th Gen as a DIY project turning it into a Cruisematec.
    For people who know what a car feels to drive: 8th Gen is simply love and for those who love the 9th Gen (i do but not as much as my 8th Gen) the main reason is "it's a newer model so it must be better" that's pure denial. I am thankful to Allah Almighty that i have the opportunity to keep both. If not, I definitely would have sold my 9th and switched back to 8th.
    Please let's just tell him our experiences. I hope and pray what he feels happier and satisfied with may be his decision. Best of luck with the brain storming bro.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sial_ali View Post
    spano bhai keep 8th gen, 9th gen looks ugly especially the front grill.

    some people will find it funny but I found 7th gen to be more comfortable than 8th especially the back seats.
    I drive my self hardy sit on back seat

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    Quote Originally Posted by InNoCeNt_DeViL View Post
    Both are really nice cars
    And its a matter of personal prefernce and choice
    No doubt 8th gen is the best Civic ever assembled here
    That doesnt mean 9th gen is bad
    9th gen just lacks that punch and the so called " Civic " factor
    8th gen has all the style and beauty but 9th gen is better for our local bad and broken roads
    It is something like a Corolla with lil bit of driving pleasure but lacks the driving pleasure Civic used have in all prev gens 6th 7th and 8th

    I kept both Civics side be side for sometime around 1.5 month
    Initially after spending so much on the new one i was in denial ( i knew 8th gen was better for me but still the sum of 25 lacs forced me to think and believe its a worthy upgrade ) my heart was telling me to sell 9th gen and keep 8th gen but then later i disposed off the 8th gen since i got a really nice offer and around 2 lacs above the market price so i sold it
    The 1st day when I brought 9th gen home i was loving it
    The new features like imid display eco button and the smooth and soft drive of new civic really impressed me something i never expected from a civic
    But then next day when i was going to college in the morning i decided to take 8th gen with since 9th gen wasnt insured
    The moment i sat in the car 8th gen i said to myself
    " What the Hell Ahmed ! Seriously , you just spent 25 lacs on a similar thing , this thing gives almost same feel "
    Then i was getting late
    I did overspeeding that day and drove at breakneck speed
    Took some sharp turns at even 80 km/h
    Man what a road grip this car has
    The 9th gen will flip over 2 times if you try to do this in it ...

    Khair its like a love story
    I always had a crush with most of the cars i kept or have
    But 8th gen is like true love ...

    Anyways here is my analysis for daily routine drive

    8th gen over 9th gen

    Its a gem
    A pure gorgeous beauty
    Better styling
    Better acceleration ( 8th gen is 1.8 seconds faster from 0 to 100 )
    Much Better road grip at higher speeds , 9th gen feels so light and like a 9th gen corolla after 120
    Better handling at corners
    Better interior plastics and finishing
    That curvy multiplex meter and dash layout looks better and attractive than 9th gen civic
    Rear reading lights
    Better side mirror indicator design
    Lovely seating position literally gives a feel as if lait k gari chala rahay ho aap
    Dual exhaust finisher
    A great handbrake design and placement i like it
    A great road presence
    Its purely a Man's car as fouad bhai once said


    9th gen over 8th gen

    New shape
    A great car if you are status conscious ( 99% of the ppl just change 8th gen becoz of this factor )

    Better fuel economy
    Soft and extremely comfortable seats ( non leather version )
    Better visibility
    Much much better road clearance just like a Corolla
    I mid display
    Auto off headlights
    Remote trunk opener
    Climate control
    Cruise control
    Better and a bit soft suspension as compared to 8th gen 9th gen feels really soft and smooth however i had michelins in 9th gen and have euro stars in reborn may be thats the reason
    More comfortable for our bad roads
    Once i crossed a really rough and broken road infact it wasnt a road at 80 km/h
    9th gen surely beats 8th gen here
    Solid and heavy doors

    But you cant get best of both Worlds
    Since 9th gen beats 8th gen in above mentioned aspects it lacks that " Civic Fun and punch "

    I would adv save money for 10th gen Civic
    I am sure it will be much better than 9th gen and 8th gen too
    Good Luck !
    Thank you very much for such a detailed comparison. It is really helpful for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InNoCeNt_DeViL View Post
    For those who are saying road grip improves significantly with good tyres
    I had 16" michelin primacy hp in my 9th gen
    Even then it used to vibrate at above 120 to 130
    11th gen Corolla even Xli with eurostars feels better and more stable than 9th gen civic having branded expensive tyres
    8th gen is a class apart if we compare the road grip

    And yes the black arm rest of door trims soon starts to peel off ( 9th gen Civic )
    I have currently Michelin Primacy HP 16" tyres on my 8th gen and I drive in at 170 180km/hr almost once a month when ever I go to motor way and it's rock stable at that speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaheryar.khokhar View Post
    Had both of them in my personal home used cars. People mostly have negative reviews about the 9th gen as compared to the 8th gen but i personally like the 9th gen.

    Reasons for what I like the 9th gen:
    -An aggressive front end including factory fitted projectors
    -Curvy rear end
    -More comfort cuz of better seats as compared to the 8th gen
    -Interior like a super luxury vehicle including the extra display for the fuel economy, radio, time, etc
    -Better fuel economy
    -Climate Control
    -Less cabin noise due to soft suspension
    -Less load on engine due to EPS

    Some cons:
    -Door cards are made up of low quality material as compared to the 8th gen
    -Rear is raised a lot as compared to whole civic generations (but can be lowered in a decent daily driven manner)


    Rest people talk about road grip etc whatsoever, give the EuroStar tires a break and get some quality tires i bet you will get a better road grip.
    And above all, i love my 7th gen the most
    the handling and grip difference between 8th and 9th gen is overstated on pakwheels imo, never felt such huge difference nor read about it in international honda forums, infact compared to 8th gen, 9th gen has less understeer and handles like a smaller, more nimble car, i have driven both cars on highway upto 170. at speeds above 120, the eps of 9th gen feels more stable, grippy than 8th gen's hps which gets excessively soft(characteristic of hps on high rpm).
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    haven't owned a 8th gen civic
    I do have the 9th gen civic since 1 1/2 years so I can comment on that
    It is a fine car.......no issues with it whatsoever. running advan db 205/65/15. Driven till 188 on motorway, the car does feel a little light but it's stable. No vibrations etc. The car is tail happy though, go into any turn at excess speeds and the car tends to tail out. Happened with me quite a few times. corolla has this tendency too. dunno if the 8th gen has it or not.
    Rest, well, no complains from it whatsoever. Satisfied with it.

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