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Thread: Confused: Sell the car or spend on it and keep it for another X years? Civic vti 05

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    Default Confused: Sell the car or spend on it and keep it for another XYZ years? Civic vti 05

    EDIT: The X in title does not mean 10 years, its a variable which can have a value in number 3, 5, 8, 11 etc Sorry if its miss-leading. I tried to edit it but not working i guess

    So I have to make the big decision whether to sell my civic or spend some bucks and keep it. Beware wall of text ahead Please take time to read, assess the situation and give your expert and honest opinion.

    Some history of the car:
    Its a Honda civic 2005 Vti oriel manual, Islamabad registered (stone canyon silver). We bought the car zero meter and for last 9 years, i am the only driver of the car. It has clocked 123k kms on odo. For eight years, it was used only in Islamabad and had 70k on odo however since 2013, i got a job in rawalpindi so the running of car increased drastically. (70k kms in 8 years VS 53k kms in 3 years)

    Hits:
    1. A long time ago, the car's right fender (behind wheel) was hit by a taxi while turning to right. The car was on instalments and hence insured that time so they replaced the fender. The door was also slightly hit but i am not sure what they did of it. My mamu was in army and he had links in bank so he got with all the claims and stuff. May be they replaced it too or repaired it I honestly don't know.

    2. Left rear door was once hit with another car's bumper while parking. I got it dry dented so it is still visible

    3. Bottom area of driver side door was once hit by a taxi. The hit was minor so i did not do anything to it. It is barely visible

    4. Front and back bumpers corners have been scratched many times.

    5. I hit a suzuki pickup once while reversing from car wash (low visibility). The dent is not big but noticeable. It is on rear boot cover (near honda emblem)

    I have never got any work done on body, not because of resale (i had no plans of selling it) but because of my laziness.

    The reason i am thinking to sell the car is because of mechanical maintenance it now requires. Until now, all work was done on car by honda dealership I-9. I have receipts btw so here is the

    mechanical status
    1. Recently AC compressor was changed with kabli one. Reason is that the clutch bearing of genuine sanden gave up and it bit on the seat. Mechanic called it GAATTA, its called bearing seat right? The pulley had too much play so we were forced to go for another compressor. Mechanic said previous compressor is irreparable and is useless now.

    2. I have always used honda genuine engine oil and filter, always got it changed from dealer ship. However on last oil change i went for castrol magnatec.

    3. Once a spark plug got stuck inside. The mechanic skilfully removed it by using wd40 and some to-and-fro motion. He then installed a new plug. The plug has been removed once after it but no problems

    4. Have been periodically getting throttle body serviced and tappets adjustments.

    5. Timing belt was changed at 100k kms.

    6. Gear oil has been changed only once since the car came.

    7. Fuel filter has never been replaced/cleaned.

    8. Brake fluid + service performed twice since car came. Brake pads have been changed whenever required

    9. Clutch fluid never been changed. The mechanic at 3s said that it looks ok

    10. PSP has been rebuilt once, no problems so far.

    11. Coolant has never been changed (i know i will be bashed for this)

    12. Car hits bumps hard and makes thuz thuz noise when it is moving on road with bumps. On expressway the ride is smooth as silk So i am guess suspension overhaul is required.

    13. Tires need replacement now

    14. Spark plugs need replacement now

    15. I assume the car runs rich because the exhaust is smelly and eyes get watery if you stick in your face. I told couple of mechanics including 3s they said its normal. There is no CEL. Smell is both on petrol and cng

    16. Clutch assembly has never been changed. Clutch is still strong but the bearings have started to give up. There are random noises which discussed it with @Xulfiqar bhai and he has thrown some good light to it. 3s quoted me 2900 for Throw out bearing and 9000 labour charges. But obviously once this is done, all bearings and plates will be changed. You dont pay 9000 for labour every other day

    17. Engine mount has been changed once, 3s took 5000 for one mount!

    18. Driver power window switch and harness has been changed once. Rain water dripped in rendering it useless. They charged me 5500 for harness and price for switch was 12000 but they gave it free saying that this model had some fault so factory is giving free replacements.

    19. The car has cng installed. The mileage per litre is almost same, 12km/litre on cng ISB-RWP drive with AC and 11km/l on petrol but obviously due to low price of cng, 42rs/l it turns out to be much cheaper.

    20. Hand brake cable once jammed so had to replace it, costed 4200 from 3s.
    Now as you can see, there is a lot of expensive work required on the car. Here are the questions now:

    1. Other then the work mentioned above, there might be other stuff required which i do not know of (please suggest). So what is the estimated cost to make the car in its top notch condition?

    I can at max throw in 1 lac rupees for car maintenance but considering it a 11-12 years old car and the heavy maintenance cost i am paying, will the car go with me good for another XYZ years? fill in the XYZ I cannot spare such large amount for the car every year or so.

    2. If It is advisable to sell the car and get some other then please note that the maximum budget i can stretch for some other car is this car's selling price + 2 lac max. So if i have to buy some other car, then it must be it good condition and must not ask for heavy maintenance (except routine maintenance) otherwise the point of buying some other car fails.


    Lastly, yes i have been lazy for its maintenance but it was due to busy routine, finances and simply being unaware of its needs.
    BUT not anymore!

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    Well...by adding only 2 lac ruppees it doesnt seems to be a good idea to buy another car caz whatever car u ll buy you will have to spend a good amount to make it absolutely according to your taste...so as this car is with you since zero meter , i would strongly recomend that u must keep it and spend amount on its maintenence...honda civic is the car which seldom needs repairs and replacements...engine will go strong till 4 lac km InshaAllah...the pleasure of civic is unmatched.

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    1 important point..if u r going to change the tyres..go for michilin energy, XM2 or Continental...the drive of car will altogether change and u ll love to drive it anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usama1 View Post
    1 important point..if u r going to change the tyres..go for michilin energy, XM2 or Continental...the drive of car will altogether change and u ll love to drive it anywhere.
    Thanks you made good points!
    and i already got quotes for continental: 7000 per tyre. Just holding back due to the reasons stated above.

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    Wait for Civic X launch, then sell it and get the new Civic.
    Be polite on the road. Always give way to others, particularly ambulances and pedestrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
    Wait for Civic X launch, then sell it and get the new Civic.
    Guess you missed this part
    2. If It is advisable to sell the car and get some other then please note that the maximum budget i can stretch for some other car is this car's selling price + 2 lac max. So if i have to buy some other car, then it must be it good condition and must not ask for heavy maintenance (except routine maintenance) otherwise the point of buying some other car fails.
    So no civic X for me, not until civic 11 i guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellsGuardian View Post
    Guess you missed this part


    So no civic X for me, not until civic 11 i guess
    Pardon. I really skipped that part. I wish you soon get a new car.
    Be polite on the road. Always give way to others, particularly ambulances and pedestrians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellsGuardian View Post
    Thanks you made good points!
    and i already got quotes for continental: 7000 per tyre. Just holding back due to the reasons stated above.
    Great...you got a good quote....i got 4 tyres Continental CC5 last week for 7500 each. Size is 195~65~15.

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    imo you got great car. you wont find anything better adding 200k more. keep it. and spend on it
    It doesn't matter baby we can take it real slow

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    7th gen civic is a real gem of a car. Spend wisely on it and keep it. Honda dealership charges too much. Try to look for a good mechanic and get all the work done from there.

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    stick to the current car, save more and get a decent upgrade. I also own a 7th gen civic and have been searching for a decent upgrade by adding 2-3 lakh+ car sale but the only thing I've found which comes least close enough to civic is a Vitz 07-09 model. The rest is just teen dabba.

    Vitz has lower maintenance expense and has almost the same/greater fuel average.

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    Default Confused: Sell the car or spend on it and keep it for another X years? Civic ...

    All what you have explained i only think your car needs new suspension and few oil chnages.. Its hardly 50k expense if done from outside.

    This would probably sell for 9 lacs and means new car budget is 11 lacs which is not enough for a sedan but you can get a JDM import car like Mitsubishi Mirage or vitz.


    Keep the car i would suggest
    Get fuel filter changed, coolant, new suspension and you are good to go until 200k kms.

    Well i can relate to you some what..
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    My corolla 186k driven no problem till now just needs the new suspension, zero meter purchased and 3s maintained


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    RIP

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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertypoiu View Post
    All what you have explained i only think your car needs new suspension and few oil chnages.. Its hardly 50k expense if done from outside.

    This would probably sell for 9 lacs and means new car budget is 11 lacs which is not enough for a sedan but you can get a JDM import car like Mitsubishi Mirage or vitz.


    Keep the car i would suggest
    Get fuel filter changed, coolant, new suspension and you are good to go until 200k kms.

    Well i can relate to you some what..
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    My corolla 186k driven no problem till now just needs the new suspension, zero meter purchased and 3s maintained


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    Thank you for going through the post completely. And yes that's the problem, if i sell it, the options are very few and certainly not as good as this car...
    btw you quoted 200k, Generally speaking, what should i expect once car has hit 200k+ mark? What things should i keep in mind

    Oh 186k and going strong! MashaAllah

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    in my opinion, you should stick to this car since its with you since first day since you wont find such pleasure in any other car which come under your budget. 1 lac is enough for the things which you mentioned if you go for some other good mechanic except honda. Honda labour charges are too much high. by the way, do change its fuel filter as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HellsGuardian View Post
    Thank you for going through the post completely. And yes that's the problem, if i sell it, the options are very few and certainly not as good as this car...
    btw you quoted 200k, Generally speaking, what should i expect once car has hit 200k+ mark? What things should i keep in mind

    Oh 186k and going strong! MashaAllah
    its mostly repeating everything done around 100k kms.. and other parts which require changing in my cast around 185 i need to get suspension and left side cv joints, power steering needs to be investigated as after driving a hour or so it gets a bit heavy. So same would be in your case if something goes bad that needs to be changed or repaired other then that repeat everything which was done before
    RIP

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