here is the site which shows u the time of a 1.6 vtec civic it is 10.4 sec(just 0.2 sec better than 2d) and its bhp is 110 bhp, i.e. 4 bhp lesser than a 2d. top speed exactly equal to a 2d, i.e. 116 mph. and torque=111 lb/ft(almost half to the torque of 2d)
ANYWAY BEING FAIR WHAT I CONCLUDE IS THAT THERE'S NO COMPARISON BETWEEN PETROL NAD DIESEL CARS!
ACCORDING TO THE LINKS
Handling (4 STARS)
Comfort (3 STARS)
Quality + reliability (ALL 5 STARS)
Performance (3 STARS)
Roominess (4 STARS)
Running costs (3 STARS)
Value for money (3 STARS)
Stereo / Sat nav (4 STARS)
AND NOW HONDA'S
Handling (3 STARS)
Comfort (3 STARS)
Quality + reliability (ALL 4 STARS)
Performance (3 STARS)
Roominess (4 STARS)
Running costs (4 STARS)
Value for money (4 STARS)
Stereo / Sat nav (2 STARS)
OK! LET'S DO THE COMPARISON
IN HANDLING THE ABOVE MODEL WHICH THGE LINK SHOWS IS AIN'T THE ONE WE R HAVING IT HERE ELSE NO WAY IT GONNA BE HAVING MORE STARS AND IF U FOCUS ON THE SHPE THEN U SHUD HAVE SOME FEELINGS THAT IT RESEMBLES TO HONDA'S SHAPE MORE THAN TOYOTA.
COMFORT: BOTH R HAVING SAME RATINGS BUT AGAIN IF U COMPARE OUR LOCALLY DESIGNED MODELS THEN U SHUD BE KNOWING HONDA IS AHEAD IN COMFORT.
QUAILTI+RELIABILTY:- HONDA IS BETTER IN PROVIDING QUALITY (PAKISTAN) BUT I ADMITT IT'S THE WAY YOU TAKE CARE OF UR VEHICLE. EVEN A SUZUKI THAKELEE OWNER CAN SATISFY U FROM HIS CAR IF HE HAD BEEN DRIVING IT IN LAHORE DEFENCE HIS WHOLE LIFE.
PERFORMANCE: BOTH CARS HAVE SAME RATING BUT I CAN SAY THAT IN PAKISTAN DIESEL IS BEST BECOZ OF ITS MILAGE.
ROOMINESS: BOTH HAVE SAME RATING BUT COMPARING THE MODELS UR GIVEN AGAIN HONDA WILL LEAD.
VALUE FOR MONEY: THE MOST WANTED AND IMPORTANT FACTOR THAT CONVIENCES U B4 PURCHASING OF UR CAR AND EVEN WITH THE FOREIGN MODEL U CAN SEE HONDA IS THE BEST CHOICE FOR THE MONEY U R INVESTING. AGAIN ALL THOSE FACTORS COMES WHICH CODERNAUT MEANTIONED IN HIS FORUM. HOWEVER FROM THE PIC OF THE HONDA IN THE LINK OF COMPARISON IT LOOK THAKELEE EVEN WORSE THAN THE BALENO MAHA THAKELEE.
STEREO/ SAT NAV: YEP I THINK AND EVEN HEARD IN THE FORUMS THAT TOYOTA IS PROVIDING YOU BETTER STEREO OTHER THAN DABA SPEAKERS.
ANYWAY THIS WAS FOR THE COMPARISION. NOW COMMING TO THE HORSE POWERS. THE HP U MENTIONED OF COROLLA AIN'T THOSE WHICH WE R HAVING IT HERE. BECAUSE WE R USING THE SAME OLD ENGINE IN OUR NEW BODY. ANYWAY IT DIFINITELY TAKE MORE TIME TO REACH 100KM/HR RATHER THAN THE SECS U MENTIONED.
AND THE LINK U MENTIONED OF HONDA SHOWS THAT IT'S HAVING JUST 110BHP WHERE AS OUR HONDA HAS 130PS ACCORDING TO WHICH IT WILL BE ALOT FASTER. FOR EXAMPLE IF IT MAKES A DIFFERNECE OF 1 SEC WHICH THE LINK SHOWED THEN EVEN ITS ALOT AS THERE'S GONNA FEW ADDED TO THE CALCULATION YOU SHOWED ABT TOYOTA 2.0D.
i dun get it WHY DA *** r ppl on this forum so presistant to be DUMBASSES
y do u keep comapring 2d's wid vti's
wat will it take to prove to u guys
THERE IS NO COMPARISION
2d infrnt of a vti is a khota rhedi
and b4 u guys start flaming me lemme just tell u i have 2 vti's
and aslo own the new 2d
most of my frnds hav se saloons's
now lissen carefully
the 2d u r comparing is NOT the 1 we hav here i mean r u fukin blind????
i bet u dun even know wat kinda deisel engine it has
its a d4-d forgodssake thats a CDI engine
we have 2c deisels in our 2ds wid 71hp output
and 131nm of torque
a vti has 130hp and 146nm of torque
a stock vti does a 0-100kmph in 10 sec flat
a 2d does it in 14.5-15 secs
how do i know u say cuz i have a gtech pro meter in my car
it gives me all the 0-100 stats and quater mile stats i need
issiliye dont challenge me whn it comes to 0-100 times
okay now the corrolla vs civic issue
first of alll stop actin all ghetto
realize ur in PAKISTAN
compare cars down here
not on the fukin internet like u just did and made an *** out of ur self by stating that we have a cdi engine here in our 2d's
corolla here suxxx
ask any person who owns both a civc and a corolla
like me for instance
y u ask..
well heres ur answer
handling|stability|grip:the civic rapes the living crap outta a corolla neday cuz the dumb fuks at corolla dun know ke a softer suspension on a NON-independent suspension mite give a smooth ride but itll kill the handling of the car due to excessive body roll
the civic has independent suspension all round so it gives u the stiffness for the handling and all that smoothness over potholes for that comfort
comfort: driving and sitting in a corolla is like ur standing up in a daewoo bus
the sitting postion is all messd up and eventually leads to back aches for NON-MIDGET ppl
so comfort goes to civic for its comfy seatin position and the kikass suspension
performance:well kinda already decided the vti rapes the se saloon in a drag
and dun even talk bout the 2d
ne doubts BRING ITTT
netime any whr ill brng a stock vti if u beat it wid ur stock se saloon i will pay u 5000 bucks on the spot
brakes:HANDS DOWN teh civic grabs yet another win here
i wont even compare here cuz the corolla has 12 inch discs infrnt WIDOUT abs
the civic has 13inch disc's infrnt WID abs
issiliye no comparision
reliability: most ppl dun even knwo wat this term means..u cant compare two cars for how many miles u can put on the engine b4 it breaks dwon that depends on the driver
issiliye ill compare tehm the way it meant to be
rape the living *** out of both car's engines then see which one stands out
u do the most ruthless thing u can imagine to both engiens..u turbo both of them wid teh same setup same boost WIDOUT any fuel management
tyhat will induce knocking in both engines tehn u wait and see whcih one fails first
well we down here in lahore hav tried taht
and im sorry to say that it only took 4 drags to burn the clutch of the corrola and then it broke a rod
while the civc that was turboed went strong through out the month and only melted the #4 piston after a month
issiliye every tuner knows that honda engines takes twice as much beating as a corolla takes
the only positive thing bout a corolla in pak is its resale\spares
AND TAHT IS FUKIN ITTT!!!
all civc haters ive noticed r corolla owners
face the fact..u ppl bought an inferior car just for its resale
and those my frnds r the COLD HARD FACTS bout the corolla VS civic issue
NOW STOP COMPARING THEM
and ne1 who claims that he beat a civci wid his 2d or teh 2d is better thana vti shud be ***** slapped
for being a complete dumass!!!
yaar this is my own civci its modded wid everythin except a turbo
i also hav nitrous init issiliye i dun go around chking it wid stock cars
but i also own a stock civic
woh stock civic SE saloon ko around 2 car lenghts marti hai in a drag uptill 160kmph
usually 600meter ki drag hoti hai
normal 1.6l cars 160 ker hi layti hai in that distnace
stock ke sath 0-80 tak se saloon kafi muqabla karti hai i mena vti sirf half car lenght nikalti hai
lakin after 80kmph the vti starts pulling away hard aur phir kaffi ziadah lead mar deti hai
i wud say sab se ziadah 3rd gear ke end mein nikalti hai vti, se saloon se
yaar yeh meri modded civic meine chk ki thi doosri stock ke saath(the one i mentioned in the earlier post)
i drove this one aur dost ko doosri di
NOS ke sasthi chk ki thi 1st mein nahi lagayi aur throttle bhi poora nahi dabaya
he on the other hand floored it
1st mein woh around 1.5 cars agey nikala
then in 2nd gear i used nitrous and by the time i shifted to 3rd i was like 3 cars ahead of him
u fukin geeks both of u speedster and thecwizi
u ppl dun know JACK **** bout cars
and i bet u both dun even HAV a car to begin wid issiliye STFU
and i challenge both of u to a drag i will brng a stock civis aur drag mein ATLEAST 8 car lenghts maroon ga
i will aslo brng a video camera
we will tape the drag aur agar drag mein meri stock civci ne tumhar "imaginary" 2dz ko 8 car lenghts se kam mari to i will pay u 10 thousand rupees on the SPOT!!!
abb bolo place time and date
and oh the corrolla vs civic issue read my last post ********..and challenge me on ANY point ive given and i will giv a counter arguement...
and btw comparing 2d wid civic is senseless i mean tumhe sharam nahi aayi aisa ******** comparision karne mein???
the only 2 cars that can be compared r se saloon aur vti uss mein bhi refer to my last post
civci is better than se saloon
se saloon ki resale ziadah hai but the vti makes up for it by beating the **** outtta se saloon in every other feild of consideration
WELL BRO I WAS JUST KIDDING NOTHING PERSONNEL AND NO SRRY N THNX IN BROTHERSHIP. ANYWAY, NICE TO HEAR THAT EVEN SE SALOON CAN'T MAKE UP WITH CIVIC 2000 (ORIEL ONE)LOL!!!!!
SO IMAGINE WHAT THE HELL PROSMATIC SHAPE WILL DO WITH IT.
WELL, BALENO THAKELEE KA TU MAIN KUCH NAHEE KEH SAKTH PER I AM SURE THAT CITY 2000 MANUAL (STOCK) CAN BEAT 2.0D (STOCK) ANYWHERE ANYTIME.
MOREOVER, ABT THE LEAD OF 8 CARS YUP NOT POSSIBLE IN 0-100KM/HR WHEREAS I DO BELIVE THAT IF U MAKE IT HAPPEN ON MOTORWAY BEFORE TOOL PLAZA I AM DAMN SURE HE WILL OR EVEN GIVE MORE DISTANCE.
KEEP IN MIND THE RACE WILL BE CONSIDERED OVER AS SOON AS HE/I GETS A DIFFERENCE OF 8 CARS FROM YOUR 2.0D.
R U GUYS READY FOR RACE!!!!!
I AM NOT COMMITTING FOR BALENO THAKELEE BUT CAN COME ON CITY FROM EITHER 0-100KM/HR OR 0-120KM/HR.
Salamzz alll.....yaar what the F**K!!!!
Yo guyz have gone NUTS!!...getmoa tere ko to kha jaoon ga main....lolzzzzz
yaaar i am a Doctor...those pppl who think that they can beat a Vtech with there Diesel cars(2.od)plz refer to me...u guyz have a very acute kinda complictaion ...but don worry i will surely help ya out ....
abt the baleno n od issue...guyz its definite ke od lead le gi but after 120 or so....koi diesel or petrol ka lehaaz karo...
i was on motorway on baleno 3 months back...my friends were on there od saloon...120 tak i never let em take the lead..us ke baaad it is obvious for an od to take the lead yaaar but that is v v slow bohat mushkil se niqalti hai od but it does takes the lead.. ,remb!..
n aik aur baat..v were going quite smoothly on 120 n from there v pressed the pedals... i shifted ma car 2 the third gear (5-3),man don ask what i did 2 ur beloved od...ab think abt a 1.6 car ...wat will it do..this topic has been discussed here a lot of times yaar n u know the first time i read such a topic(VTi vs OD)i was like dumbfounded...yaaarhad hoti hai...alot of technical factsheets were posted for this issue but ...koi faaida nahi..
getmoa don worry ...i can make a commitmant for Baleno