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    Default Corolla SE Saloon 1.6 braking issue

    hello guys.

    as most of you would know that corolla likes to hug cars from the back.
    I have been on it for quite some time and 'noticed' that the rear suspension is too 'soft' that it just jumps upon braking. The shocks are very good and working fine. As far as I'm concerned, springs are the culprit, I was thinking if we could change the rear springs to something good? not going buy genuine spec toyota springs, but some after market option, since I don't know much about the available options, I would like you guys to comment on what ever is available and how good.. please also mention price ideas.

    lowering springs?
    Coilovers?
    adjustable coilovers?

    what can be applied in my application and what would be most economical. I need springs that are rigid than the original ones. I would be using the stock shock absorbers since they ARE VERY VERY good.


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    as i have heard if you use different springs with stock shocks the shocks dont last long.

    there are very few lowered corolla if there is any pakwheeler what a lowered on he can give input
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    SE saloon brakes suck. had 2 in family. first one sold because of bad brakes.
    sold second one after 2 accidents

    change the brake "T" --- one from corolla X should work fine. brake distribution between front and rear of these stock cars is in correct
    Life is short and very unpredictable just like a Quarter mile .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hash4u View Post
    SE saloon brakes suck. had 2 in family. first one sold because of bad brakes.
    sold second one after 2 accidents

    change the bake "T" --- one from corolla X should work fine. brake distribution between front and rear of these stock cars is in correct
    Hmm, I didn't get your reply?

    bake T?

    And what would you say about lowering springs / stiffer springs at the back? that would reduce a lot of weight transfer to the front?

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    i searched. i think proper term is brake distribution block

    check with user skullbox .......he got it changed in his xli. makes alot of difference.

    lowering ur car........uncomrfortable + lahore speed brakers will kill ur car in few days(specially if it is a family car)
    Life is short and very unpredictable just like a Quarter mile .....

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    Sir

    Just keep your disc/pad/calipers/brake oil in good condition and keep a safe distance, do not alter suspensions.

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    No need to change anything I have a se saloon too and the brakes are good if you use them right most drivers just step on the brakes hard when stopping.What I do is downshift first and then step on the brakes encase of emergency step on the brake hard when wheel lock is detected release it quick and step on it hard again as soon as possible.The car wont slip.If this method is to hard for you get an ABS.

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    If you read around, the shape of your corolla, due to its bulbous profile has its center of gravity around the rear seat regions. So when you brake (Specially hard), the car feels a lift from the rear, which decreases traction with the road. And as the car is FWD it often keeps going in its exiting motion, resulting in hitting the car in the front or more commonly sliding.

    So it has got nothing to do with the brake technology, just with the profile of the car
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    yaar i have a 2005 S.E saloon what i did for better braking is i put 15 alloys along with 205/65/15 Yokohama and my corolla doesn't have that bad braking issue anymore... i bought it brand new and on the very first day before even bringing it to home i put Yokohama C drive 195/65/15 they did not get the job done so after 40,000 Kms i changed them and put those 205 which i am still using they did a fantastic job for me ... and if you put those stiff springs it will ruin the driving pleasure of the car ... when you drive your car alone (with only 2 person max) it will make noise from rear as if somethings wrong with the suspension ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ovais909 View Post
    No need to change anything I have a se saloon too and the brakes are good if you use them right most drivers just step on the brakes hard when stopping.What I do is downshift first and then step on the brakes encase of emergency step on the brake hard when wheel lock is detected release it quick and step on it hard again as soon as possible.The car wont slip.If this method is to hard for you get an ABS.
    I know how to brake sir, I can stop Nissan Patrols quicker than this thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingxlr8 View Post
    If you read around, the shape of your corolla, due to its bulbous profile has its center of gravity around the rear seat regions. So when you brake (Specially hard), the car feels a lift from the rear, which decreases traction with the road. And as the car is FWD it often keeps going in its exiting motion, resulting in hitting the car in the front or more commonly sliding.

    So it has got nothing to do with the brake technology, just with the profile of the car
    That is what I want to reduce, the brake technology is good enough. Just the rear of the car lifts too high under braking due to bad suspension setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hash4u View Post
    i searched. i think proper term is brake distribution block

    check with user skullbox .......he got it changed in his xli. makes alot of difference.

    lowering ur car........uncomrfortable + lahore speed brakers will kill ur car in few days(specially if it is a family car)

    He got the brake distribution block from a corolla X?

    And uh, I don't exactly want to lower my car, what I mean't was to use stiffer springs, same ride height.

    And I want a contact of a shop or a person who has those springs here in Lahore.

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    Sir why do not you simply buy an Altis or late 2006 2.0D Saloon with ABS or new GLI, that will be much better for braking.

    It can be really dangerous to alter the stock suspensions and/or brake mechanism.

    If you want the best braking, Vitz/X Corolla and Eagle Eye VTI are best.

    Alternatively, you can change the tires to Bridgestone Adrenaline RE001 or Dunlop SP Sports 9000, 205/50 R15.

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    sync,
    yes, leave skullbox a private msg for exact details!!!!i can pvt msg u his number if u want to

    do take a ride in a car with stiff suspension first. ur jaw will vibrate like a skeleton. not to mention what happens when heavy people sit in stiff suspension cars

    performance shops or mod shops will arange them for u
    Life is short and very unpredictable just like a Quarter mile .....

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    That is what I want to reduce, the brake technology is good enough. Just the rear of the car lifts too high under braking due to bad suspension setup.
    okay then if thats the problem get a TRD front strut brace and TRD rear sway bar

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    Quote Originally Posted by 959 View Post
    Sir why do not you simply buy an Altis or late 2006 2.0D Saloon with ABS or new GLI, that will be much better for braking.

    It can be really dangerous to alter the stock suspensions and/or brake mechanism.

    If you want the best braking, Vitz/X Corolla and Eagle Eye VTI are best.

    Alternatively, you can change the tires to Bridgestone Adrenaline RE001 or Dunlop SP Sports 9000, 205/50 R15.

    Regards
    Already have 195 dunlop SP sport tyres all round.

    I know that Vitz/civic have best braking.

    If I could change the car altogether, it would have been done quite some time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ovais909 View Post
    okay then if thats the problem get a TRD front strut brace and TRD rear sway bar
    Thank you sir but I can't do track days unless we have a track here in Lahore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hash4u View Post
    sync,
    yes, leave skullbox a private msg for exact details!!!!i can pvt msg u his number if u want to

    do take a ride in a car with stiff suspension first. ur jaw will vibrate like a skeleton. not to mention what happens when heavy people sit in stiff suspension cars

    performance shops or mod shops will arange them for u
    I wouldn't want to go that stiff. Just slightly stiffer than the stockers.

    I have left skullbox a PM, lets see.

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    nvm

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    Go to Bilal Gunj and get springs from there, you will get good springs after spending a good hour in the market. There is one guy named Aftab. His shop is right after the parking on the left side (I think the third shop after the parking ends). He has good stiffer springs but the issue of noise will definitely arise if there is packing put along with those springs. Otherwise, no issues. Tell aftab that the guy having black VTi who got his springs changed, has sent you (that is I of course).

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