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    They should remove seat belts? Given it will still sell like hot-cakes!

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    Yaar every company has its own policy aimed at maximizing their profit. Farmaishi programme abhi Pakistani main available naheen. You can configure your Audi or BMW on their website and place the order with the features you want.

    I am not endorsing IMC stupid policy of not giving power windows in Xli, even Liana and City had them, but still people are buying it.

    I would love to see immobilizer in every car in Pakistan given the thieves rule in this country. But if IMC does not give it what people can do? I think if you so much want IMC to introduce immobilizer in their vehicles you can file a petition in a consumer court or request the CJ to take a suo moto action.
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    I was told by person (a denter neighbour to a CNG shop),

    Toyota Indus provided

    -Free training to roadside CNG workshops.
    -A 12 day course.
    -Free pick and Drop.
    -Free software.

    Which Suzuki didnt, And they kept the technology with them only,

    There fore if these ECOtec Corollas have issues, Local mechanics wouldnt mind putting there hands into them.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    ^^ Or I can simply buy another product?

    >> lol @ Suo Moto Action by CJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by khurram_aziz View Post
    ^^ Or I can simply buy another product?
    Other product?

    lets see the options you have..

    Ummmm

    1) Corolla
    2) Corolla
    3) Corolla
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    I was thinking about Swift; seriously

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    Quote Originally Posted by khurram_aziz View Post
    ^^ Or I can simply buy another product? >> lol @ Suo Moto Action by CJ
    Yes that is the right thing to do A friend of my friend after reading the thread about rising Corolla thefts, bought a City, purely for his reason. Now he is mixing hi-Octane to prevent knocking
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    City iVTEC is a very good car; I kept it and it doesnt knock..one doesnt need Hi Octane at all; just do these three things [a] keep driving it; knocking goes away [b] identify company operated fuel pumps and always use fuel from them and [c] use synthetic lubricant; helix ultra and mobil 1 are best for City iVTEC; dont use Honda oil...Pass on this info to your friend

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    ^^
    I am pouring in normal petrol (Super) in my City iVTEC. I use to get it filled from Shell pumps in Islamabad. There is no problem at all.
    But one thing I must say that this car doesn't tolerate wrong gear shifting. If you are driving in a slow speed and put the car in 4th gear, it will feel like it is dead. My other cars (Khyber 2000 & Altis 2007) also behave sluggish in such situation but they somehow pull it up by knocking and producing different engine sound until they reach the required speed of that gear.
    But if you drive City iVTEC with correct gear shifts, believe me its very fast. Xli/Gli can't even be compared with City iVTEC's pick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
    Yes that is the right thing to do A friend of my friend after reading the thread about rising Corolla thefts, bought a City, purely for his reason. Now he is mixing hi-Octane to prevent knocking

    While going thru my 2011 Corollas owners manual, i found it saying, "Minute knocking driving uphills is normal".

    Il try to scan and upload that page.
    Get over the fact that Xli lacks power windows, Its an Xli because it lacks thoose features or else it would be a Gli or an Altis if had all the goodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khurram_aziz View Post
    City iVTEC is a very good car; I kept it and it doesnt knock..one doesnt need Hi Octane at all; just do these three things [a] keep driving it; knocking goes away [b] identify company operated fuel pumps and always use fuel from them and [c] use synthetic lubricant; helix ultra and mobil 1 are best for City iVTEC; dont use Honda oil...Pass on this info to your friend
    Thanks Khurram. I will pass on info to him, but he is stick-to-Honda-type guy for maintenance and will not switch from what Honda pours in due to warranty.

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    ^^
    I am pouring in normal petrol (Super) in my City iVTEC. I use to get it filled from Shell pumps in Islamabad. There is no problem at all.
    But one thing I must say that this car doesn't tolerate wrong gear shifting. If you are driving in a slow speed and put the car in 4th gear, it will feel like it is dead. My other cars (Khyber 2000 & Altis 2007) also behave sluggish in such situation but they somehow pull it up by knocking and producing different engine sound until they reach the required speed of that gear.
    But if you drive City iVTEC with correct gear shifts, believe me its very fast. Xli/Gli can't even be compared with City iVTEC's pick.
    Actually I drove my friend's City and liked it too. In fact I advised him to get City as it offered abs+power windows which were missing from Xli and it was good value for money. But now with his knocking problems I feel guilty of giving him wrong advise.

    In my age group, pick does not count, but a reliable comfy ride is priority. Without knocking issues, City is a nice package. I think Atlas could not configure the ECU according to Pakistan fuel octane ratings.

    Despite all the negative comments my experience with both 2010 and 2011 Xlis had been great on all road conditions and weathers. The Xli which I took to Lahore had returned last week from Kaghan, Shogran and Naran after covering an international cyclist rally.

    PS: No City-Corolla war please, just narrating my first hand experience with both cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by autophile View Post
    Thanks Khurram. I will pass on info to him, but he is stick-to-Honda-type guy for maintenance and will not switch from what Honda pours in due to warranty.



    Actually I drove my friend's City and liked it too. In fact I advised him to get City as it offered abs+power windows which were missing from Xli and it was good value for money. But now with his knocking problems I feel guilty of giving him wrong advise.

    In my age group, pick does not count, but a reliable comfy ride is priority. Without knocking issues, City is a nice package. I think Atlas could not configure the ECU according to Pakistan fuel octane ratings.

    Despite all the negative comments my experience with both 2010 and 2011 Xlis had been great on all road conditions and weathers. The Xli which I took to Lahore had returned last week from Kaghan, Shogran and Naran after covering an international cyclist rally.

    PS: No City-Corolla war please, just narrating my first hand experience with both cars.
    I have not faced any knocking issues with my 2011 City iVTEC, but if one is too lazy to change the gear after a speed braker than that is another issue. If I compare City iVTEC with my Altis 2007, Altis knocks a lot more than City.
    Believe me if the petrol is not of good quality, Altis tells me instantly. It starts knocking and it is so much prominent that the passengers sitting with me can easily feel it. In case of City, if the fuel is bad then it also knocks but it is minute knocking and only driver feels it.
    PS: All the cars knock on bad fuel, even an old carby car knocks if the fuel is bad.
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    Agreed with Speedster_101.
    I never faced any knocking problem in my honda city 10 model. and I'm using simple(super) petrol. and i keep my car at 2k-3k rpm most of the tym. Never felt that car is knocking. But yeah if we try to pick it by passing a speed breaker in 3rd gear. It surely knocks. In fact Every car knocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedster_101 View Post

    But one thing I must say that this car doesn't tolerate wrong gear shifting. If you are driving in a slow speed and put the car in 4th gear, it will feel like it is dead. .
    no car shud be made to undergo such treatment. why do u even try to check this stuff in the first place ??? have mercy on ur car, please.

    Quote Originally Posted by speedster_101 View Post
    PS: All the cars knock on bad fuel, even an old carby car knocks if the fuel is bad.
    agreed

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    If that is the problem then no car knocks on cng as its octane rating is high
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    cng will never cause knocking. ever.

    even in the best of cars, knocking will occur due to bad fuel.
    even in the worst of cars knocking wont happen if running on cng.
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    Ok tell me why on a bad fuel one car knocks and another does not knock?
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    I guess; when unburned fuel and air mixture beyond whats required remains under heat and pressure; causes detonation...famously Knocking!


    From Wikipedia; Detonation can be prevented by any or all of the following techniques:
    • the use of a fuel with high octane rating, which increases the combustion temperature of the fuel and reduces the proclivity to detonate;
    • enriching the fuel/air ratio, which adds extra fuel to the mixture and increases the cooling effect when the fuel vaporizes in the cylinder;
    • reducing peak cylinder pressure by increasing the engine revolutions (e.g., shifting to a lower gear, there is also evidence that knock occurs more easily at low rpm than high regardless of other factors);
    • increasing mixture turbulence or swirl by increasing engine revolutions or by increasing "squish" turbulence from the combustion chamber design;
    • decreasing the manifold pressure by reducing the throttle opening; or
    • reducing the load on the engine.
    These new engines are sensitive...each engine has different required RON (Octane); using fuel from good pumps ensures that fuel has all the RONs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed80 View Post
    no car shud be made to undergo such treatment. why do u even try to check this stuff in the first place ??? have mercy on ur car, please.


    agreed
    then what is that hypermiling thingy?

    in that chaker I drive my corolla in 5th gear on speeds like 40 or 50 even 30
    and it keep cruising , yes when I need to accelerate then I shift to 4th gear .

    I hope its not bad for the car ? experts put me wise plz
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    Quote Originally Posted by dms664 View Post
    then what is that hypermiling thingy?

    in that chaker I drive my corolla in 5th gear on speeds like 40 or 50 even 30
    and it keep cruising , yes when I need to accelerate then I shift to 4th gear .

    I hope its not bad for the car ? experts put me wise plz
    30 Km/h in 5th gear is really bad for the car.
    You should see your car's manual for speed ranges for all the 5 forward gears.
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