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    Quote Originally Posted by faltis View Post
    anybody know how this will effect the resale of the existing 1.8's?
    More important thing will be parts availability; if its M/T I think you dont have to worry much; but if its Cruisetronic; VVTI / 4-Speed Cruisetronic have been here recently and its getting replaced with dual VVTI / 5-Speed Cruisetronic; there must be parts difference. There will be a big question mark on parts availability and availability of good technicians after a while. If Cruisetronic; should replace it in next 1-2 years!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by khuziz View Post
    More important thing will be parts availability; if its M/T I think you dont have to worry much; but if its Cruisetronic; VVTI / 4-Speed Cruisetronic have been here recently and its getting replaced with dual VVTI / 5-Speed Cruisetronic; there must be parts difference. There will be a big question mark on parts availability and availability of good technicians after a while. If Cruisetronic; should replace it in next 1-2 years!!
    Are you sure its 5 speed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylestyne View Post
    Are you sure its 5 speed?
    Someone claimed 1.6 is going to be ZR engine; and someone else also mentioned that Cruisetronic will be 5 speed and M/T will be 6 speed...Toyota ZR engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia confirms this too!

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    Default Poor Resale HAHA

    Seriously the only thing wronger than being a Honda fan is being an oblivious loon (all pun intended). The Altis 1.8 Cruisetronic has anything but a poor resale factor (Check the market for new model (2009-10) cars top of the line models which will guide you about pricing for these cars) . The Corolla is a market leader in the global sedan segment in general and Pakistan in particular. With regards to the 1.6 Altis, the badge (TOYOTA) allows them to charge premium pricing (i.e. pricing in accordance with Honda Civic) especially as the engine is going to be a state of the art platform as well as certain other expected technological advancements.

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    Any interior pics plz!!!!!!!!!!!

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    There's no guarantee that Indus will give the same transmission as the one given internationally, engines are not dependent on particular transmissions, moreover there is no guarantee at all that this is a ZR series engine either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toyotaf1 View Post
    Seriously the only thing wronger than being a Honda fan is being an oblivious loon (all pun intended). The Altis 1.8 Cruisetronic has anything but a poor resale factor (Check the market for new model (2009-10) cars top of the line models which will guide you about pricing for these cars) . The Corolla is a market leader in the global sedan segment in general and Pakistan in particular. With regards to the 1.6 Altis, the badge (TOYOTA) allows them to charge premium pricing (i.e. pricing in accordance with Honda Civic) especially as the engine is going to be a state of the art platform as well as certain other expected technological advancements.
    Clearly the only oblivious loon is yourself here as you're unaware of the resale of the 1.8 Altis and how badly it has flopped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylestyne View Post
    Clearly the only oblivious loon is yourself here as you're unaware of the resale of the 1.8 Altis and how badly it has flopped.
    Top of the line Cruisetronic S/R variant in popular colors (black, stone silver etc) has same resale as Oriel Pros

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cylestyne View Post
    There's no guarantee that Indus will give the same transmission as the one given internationally, engines are not dependent on particular transmissions, moreover there is no guarantee at all that this is a ZR series engine either.
    +1; but Indus is not smart enough to make their own engine; they are dependent on Thailand for parts and engineering...Current VVTI line is abandoned since long; and only this factor is making them release dual VVTI here. Interestingly; 1ZRFE is DOHC and Civic's 1.8L iVTEC is SOHC!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mani1 View Post
    Top of the line Cruisetronic S/R variant in popular colors (black, stone silver etc) has same resale as Oriel Pros
    Maybe in Lahore, its not the case in Karachi.
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    There you go the only way to counter an argument is now sticking upto disparities in geographic localities, as the basis for explaining oneself. HAHA thats real funny nice way to go

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    Quote Originally Posted by khuziz View Post
    Interestingly; 1ZRFE is DOHC and Civic's 1.8L iVTEC is SOHC!
    It has always been the same since more than 15 years. Each corolla variant starting from 1.6GLI back in 1995 has been DOHC while every single Honda engine starting from 1996 VTi has been SOHC

    Quote Originally Posted by Cylestyne View Post
    Maybe in Lahore, its not the case in Karachi.
    Maybe

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    http://www.samarins.com/glossary/dohc.html for graphical visualization how SOHC and DOHC work!

    Quote Originally Posted by mani1 View Post
    It has always been the same since more than 15 years. Each corolla variant starting from 1.6GLI back in 1995 has been DOHC while every single Honda engine starting from 1996 VTi has been SOHC
    So which is better? SOHC or DOHC? In terms of performance, fuel consumption and maintanance?

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    There you go the only way to counter an argument is now sticking upto disparities in geographic localities, as the basis for explaining oneself. HAHA thats real funny nice way to go
    I don't need to explain myself to you, the simple fact is that the 1.8L Altis failed and could not meet the expectations of Toyota Indus. If you claim that the Altis sold as much as the Civic you'd only be making a fool of yourself.

    Pick up a copy of the Dawn Sunday AdBuzz paper and you'll see that the Altis has a resale of Rs. 50,000+ less than a similarly configured Civic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by khuziz View Post
    So which is better? SOHC or DOHC? In terms of performance, fuel consumption and maintanance?
    This is a controversial question and will lead to 10 pages of speeches here so I will refrain

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    So which is better? SOHC or DOHC? In terms of performance, fuel consumption and maintanance?
    DOHC is the only way to go for high powered engines. SOHC is an older concept but the modern SOHC engines used in entry level Honda cars are very efficient and powerful (in their given segment). Honda uses SOHC for their entry-level cars like Fit and Civic and DOHC for Accord, Inspire etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mani1 View Post
    This is a controversial question and will lead to 10 pages of speeches here so I will refrain
    Fair enough!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cylestyne View Post
    DOHC is the only way to go for high powered engines. SOHC is an older concept but the modern SOHC engines used in entry level Honda cars are very efficient and powerful (in their given segment). Honda uses SOHC for their entry-level cars like Fit and Civic and DOHC for Accord, Inspire etc.

    This new Altis 1.6 seems solid on technical merits; if it comes with ZR engine...and more importantly if it comes "soon"; price will play important role.
    • If someone is spending 2 million for top of line variant; he might go for Civic (due to different shape) and not Altis on any day!
    • If its entry level variant is not less than Civic; buyers like me (drive myself; not family car; I dont want to look like my dad yet ) will not consider it...If I have to spend 1.7 million i will definitely go for Civic due to its bigger and better performing engine; different shape obviously

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    Quote Originally Posted by khuziz View Post
    http://www.samarins.com/glossary/dohc.html for graphical visualization how SOHC and DOHC work!



    So which is better? SOHC or DOHC? In terms of performance, fuel consumption and maintanance?
    And to answer your question on maintenance, there's no difference in short term maintenance costs.

    The only real benefit SOHC would have is reduced weight due to the simpler structure and a cheaper rebuilding cost in case of failure (again due to the simple layout of the engine).
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    Quote Originally Posted by khuziz View Post
    Fair enough! [*]If someone is spending 2 million for top of line variant; he might go for Civic (due to different shape) and not Altis on any day![/LIST]
    i am a toyota lover, but i have to agree with you. if atlas will offer a much much lesser powered car than civic with same price tag, then even I would go for civic. altis 1.8 should be replaced by 2.0
    i dont mind paying 2mil for rolla but only if it is atleast 2.0, but this 1.6 is making me think about civic. let's see what is what when we actually see the product in the market.

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    1.6 will now be available at the price of 1.8 :s
    people who use Highbeams.. once day would suffer too bigtime. People who drive slow on fast lanes, remember one day a vehicle carryin ur son, dad might get late to hospital coz people like u. underaged driving will land u in bigtime trouble one day or the other.. And the Blue indication light on ur speedometer denotes "High Beams"

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