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    hello,,i am back in pindi with my second trip of M2 and M3 on my new xli,,,,,i posted the experience of my first trip to lahore ,,,,,,now here is a biggest highlight of my second trip,,,,,,,my new xli,,sways and lurches like a suzuki Fx while crossing a truck or a bus at speed of 120 and higher,,,,,and guess what happened on River Swan bridge close to islamabd on M2,,,,,,as soon as i entered the bridge at speed of 125 km/hr,,,,the car suddenly went out of control and it swayed to the left in a dangerous way,,,this was without applying any brake,,,i slowed down the car by applying brakes and afterwords never crossed 110km,till reaching islamabad,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the car is with stock tyres,,,someone tell why it happened???????
    nothingh last forever,,even cold november rain.

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    If you do decide to change your tires, be very careful in choosing the profile. If you choose a higher profile, no matter how fat a tire you put your swaying problem will increase.

    possible sizes to go for could be

    185/65/14
    or
    195/55/15

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    u need to hold the steering firmly and also bite ur upper lip that will improve the handling

    seriously
    buy a tire pressure gauge most pump gauges are not correct i recently noticed that at shell super pump the digital tire air pressure gauge is out by 6 psi i filled in 32 and it showed between 38-40 psi on my new gauge i lowered it to 30 and my handling road grip plus the jumps improved quite a lot - the swaying u mentioned seems to be too much air pressure plus the cross winds at higher speed the blody corolla losses more grip and high air pressure will make things worse

    i changed my stock general tryes to yokohama es100 quite ok tranfered my generals to my daewoo and they r also performing fine in the dewoo at least in the dry but more due to gr8 handling of daewoo
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    @ahsan

    u mentioned 195/xx/R14,,size,,what is "xx" in it??? i think 195 is the width of tyre,,dont u think that it will be too much heavy,,,because the size mentioned on the doors of the car are either 175 Or 185................

    @greedysunny

    what is the size of ur car tyres??

    no one has told me about the tyre shop and approxim,ate price !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    nothingh last forever,,even cold november rain.

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    @nascar

    my first trip on this new car on M 2 was with tyre pressure 45,,,today my friend asked me to have the pressure checked and he was amazed to see the high pressure in the tyres,,, any way i changed the pressure to 30 and made my trip with tyre pressure equal to 30.......
    nothingh last forever,,even cold november rain.

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    tyre pressure is always to be taken first thing in the morning. Tyres should be cold. I hope u did not check the tyre pressure reading after getting off from motorway!
    Life is short and very unpredictable just like a Quarter mile .....

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    45psi is too high for as light a car as a corolla. Its probably near the max limit of the tire. You should keep it between 28-30.
    For tires you can go to national tires in saddar.
    Good tires should cost approximately 2800-3500/tire for 14inch..a bit higher for 15inch.

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    @jinn

    the size mentioned on the door of the car is

    175/70/R14

    and

    185/65/R14



    i think the first one is the original size of factory fitted tyre ,,,,,if i choose the second size ,,,decreaing the tyre height might result in rough rides on rough roads,,,AM I right?????????????
    nothingh last forever,,even cold november rain.

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    hmmmm.......not completely

    you see. You cant just tell the profile by just that number. i.e 65 or 70

    A 175/70/14 tire will have a much lower profile than a 205/65/14 tire.

    But in your case, a 185/65/14 tire is 0.7% smaller in height than the 175/70/14 tire.

    But that is the best size, as if you go for 185/70/14, that will be an increase in height of 2.3%, which I wont recommend on as high a car as a corolla.

    185/65/14 is the right size to go for in 14inch. A fatter tire will provide you more grip but the steering will get heavy, and it will consume more petrol. Its all about what compromise you are willing to make.

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    @jinn and

    @all

    so my final verdict is that i am going for yokohama tyre,, size 185/65/R14..............this the size which i will buy,,,,,,,,,,,if there are any further thinghs then plz tell me immediately because i have to do it quickly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yokohama are made in which country,,,there is a problem here that u get same tyre which are made in several different countries.
    nothingh last forever,,even cold november rain.

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    It sounds really weird yaar!! i myself driven an Alto(stock) at speed of around 135-140km/hr on shar-e-faisal n nothing had happened , i also applied the breaks becuz of the signal but believe me no skidding n nothing just some screeching sound n thts it...i applied the breaks gradually...

    abb 1300cc car keh liye ye baat kuch samjh mey nahi ati...assembling fault hai!!
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    @sarkaar
    its not a manufacturing fault,,,,,,,its has got to do with tyres and height of car.
    nothingh last forever,,even cold november rain.

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    hello!
    yeah.....Corolla INdus Assembled was bit higher grom ground and tyres are not good........but here looks like crosswinds causing it.........so be change tyres to 195 or 205 if you have trips like that monthly....lower the suspension....better get good tyres like Potenza or some others.......the seen you described is really strange....a car weights around 1100kgs can't sway like that......Tyres are winds are the main reason behind this all
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    btw did you get your car checked from toyota at 1000kms?

    and I dont think the tires will improve the swaying problem.
    However, you should definately change them, as the general tires are just crap.

    as SER_GTR said lowering your car will help, but the first thing i'd recommend to do is get the car checked by toyota (they do it for free at 1000km), and see if it gets better.

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    Hi,

    I too felt such problems with my XLI, but I then changed its tyres to Dunlop 195/65/16, I bought them for Rs. 18,000. Yes I know its increases the height of the car, but I like it higher, also because I do not travel cross-cities too much, and even when I do, I keep my speed under 100KM/H.

    I think, Corolla-XLI is a light weight, 4 door family sedan and should be driven as such. I you really want to frequently drive it over 100KM/Hr, do not used 185, use at least 195/55 or 60/14.

    The earlier 2 models of Corolla that I kept did not have these problems. I think the cause of the problem is higher in height and more ground clearance.

    I also feel that this model of Corolla is inflated like a balloon, it has more mass than comparative amount of required weight, and that may be a contributing factor.

    Also, you may also feel the difference if you let the air pass through the windows and just to test, keep your window glasses lowered while overtaking heavy vehicles on higher speeds.

    Hope this helps!
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    michellin/Pirelli tyres with width of 195/205

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    ASD123,


    A long discussion on tyres to be used with XLI:

    https://www.pakwheels.com/forumreply_az_TopicID!15810~ForumID!1~pw.html
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    @asd123. Congrats and welcome to rolla club or "rolla problem club" as rolla-haters put it. Nothing to worry about your M2/M3 episode. First your speed was too high on a bridge, your top speed on a bridge must not be beyond 60. Second cross winds do also shake large vehicles at high speeds, that's why the sign is there. Third thing, your tyre pressure was too much. For rolla stock tyres recommended pressure is 30.

    One advice never put 205 tyres in your car because it will throw mud on doors and rear bumper, because it is little outside the body.

    And everyone here, please note that XLi is a basic mode and entry level car, do not expect performance of a merc or bimmer from it.
    Be polite on the road. Always give way to others, particularly ambulances and pedestrians.

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    @asd123

    If you want to put some weight in your car, I have one suggestion for you, install CNG , just changing tyre might not help much. Otherwise, try to add low profile tyre; to lower the car height and as a result your car will become more aerodynamic (showing less resistance to the crosswinds)
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    When I got CNG installed on my Corolla, I did not like the reduced height from the back, was reduced to approx. 1 inch. And after CNG installation, I experienced it touching speed breakers, when 2 persons are sitting on back seats. Therefore I put in 1.25 inch spacers on back shockers. Installing them did not make the car suspension response stiff.
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    CNG messes up with suspension, even if you put spacers, springs would be gone too soon, and the ride would be like sitting on a camel
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