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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertypoiu View Post
    Jz should start with suspension upgrades.
    yeah lowering being the first part
    my elder bro stone suggested me to upgrade brake lining,gona find the corolla application tonight for that
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    @jz i think this may not help you since you have rolla (passion)...this is because you dont have traction control,since the bo0ster of rolla applies uneven forces to all tyres which cause car to swirl.and hence you may not find it useful
    ceramic brakes are made for other conditions which you may not get...i would advise that you should carry a thorough study of these yourself before getting into it.best of luck
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    you need to sort out body roll first, then find corolla/levin/sprinter SE brakes - the massive ones, fab some cover sheets for under the car and brake ducts for the wheel wells, bilstein HD shock tubes and teflon reinforced brake lines, you will also need a brake cylinder brace, makes a big difference. Also remember that you would need to completely re-do the alignment for your purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    you need to sort out body roll first, then find corolla/levin/sprinter SE brakes - the massive ones, fab some cover sheets for under the car and brake ducts for the wheel wells, bilstein HD shock tubes and teflon reinforced brake lines, you will also need a brake cylinder brace, makes a big difference. Also remember that you would need to completely re-do the alignment for your purpose.
    roger that bro,wt abt lowering the car to help it in braking?i think switching to only lowering springs will kill the car,wt do u suggest regarding this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alee1 View Post
    @jz i think this may not help you since you have rolla (passion)...this is because you dont have traction control,since the bo0ster of rolla applies uneven forces to all tyres which cause car to swirl.and hence you may not find it useful
    ceramic brakes are made for other conditions which you may not get...i would advise that you should carry a thorough study of these yourself before getting into it.best of luck
    agreed,even my bro stone said the exact same thing n xulifqar bhai detailed me about the ceramic brakes
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    those springs need to be hard and you should have proper damper bumps installed to avoid bottoming out the damper. Your camber angle will change - and as it is not adjustable from the factory - you will need to slot the strut mouting flange to make up for the loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    I have tested these - any brake material has its application, and ceramic brakes were being used in heavy duty trucks since ages. They work effectively when hot - meaning very long high load braking. The reason they got so succesful in racing was that the cars apply severe brakes and heat them up. Their application requires an environment where they will severely heat up - infact regular brake pads would cook themselves to fire in applications where ceramic brakes are required.

    Using them in normal city feels like your brake pads are made out of rocks - your pedal feels solid - but there is very low braking.
    Well as per my knowledge, ceramic brakes are never for heavy duty trucks and SUVs as metal lining is required to hold the heavy load.

    And might be what you tested are purely racing purpose ceramic pads which need to get hot to do its job effectively. Racing pads have poor stopping power when cold and also u will feel hard.

    Now a days - consumer grade ceramic pads are avaialble having great stoping power and are much smoother. But actual differnence will feel in abusing it.</SECTION><!-- google_ad_section_end() --></SECTION>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    those springs need to be hard and you should have proper damper bumps installed to avoid bottoming out the damper. Your camber angle will change - and as it is not adjustable from the factory - you will need to slot the strut mouting flange to make up for the loss.
    how to slot the strut mounting?
    should i get a strut bar as well for front n rear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jz View Post
    jz just wants to get better brakes
    jz will get better brakes one day

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    ^^

    i wonder if Brembo or Hawk rotors or brake pads are availible here in Pakistan..

    @ jz you know much better technically than me, but if you can get your hands on 1 of these your car will have the ultimate braking force..
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    Quote Originally Posted by revengez View Post
    Well as per my knowledge, ceramic brakes are never for heavy duty trucks and SUVs as metal lining is required to hold the heavy load.

    And might be what you tested are purely racing purpose ceramic pads which need to get hot to do its job effectively. Racing pads have poor stopping power when cold and also u will feel hard.

    Now a days - consumer grade ceramic pads are avaialble having great stoping power and are much smoother. But actual differnence will feel in abusing it.</SECTION><!-- google_ad_section_end() --></SECTION>
    - meaning that you have to replace all brakes everytime you hit the pedal. the brakes in a large truck are massive and generate stupendous amounts of heat - some applications even have a spray to assist the brake cleanup and cool down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by onlyfaith View Post
    ^^

    i wonder if Brembo or Hawk rotors or brake pads are availible here in Pakistan..

    @ jz you know much better technically than me, but if you can get your hands on 1 of these your car will have the ultimate braking force..
    dont think there locally avaliable bro
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    - meaning that you have to replace all brakes everytime you hit the pedal. the brakes in a large truck are massive and generate stupendous amounts of heat - some applications even have a spray to assist the brake cleanup and cool down.
    sudden cool down of metal causes it to deshape rite?i wonder how successful will that be
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    Quote Originally Posted by alee1 View Post
    @jz i think this may not help you since you have rolla (passion)...this is because you dont have traction control,since the bo0ster of rolla applies uneven forces to all tyres which cause car to swirl.and hence you may not find it useful
    ceramic brakes are made for other conditions which you may not get...i would advise that you should carry a thorough study of these yourself before getting into it.best of luck
    Booster just increase the force when u press brake pedal. It does not invlove in providing even forces to all tyres. And brakes mechanism is designed in such a way that all tyres always get equal force.

    And as turning/swirling is concerned-many factors are involve.

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    i dont think so these brakes will help you, as by pressing the padal hard you can easily lock wheels. the only thing these cars need is ABS to assist you in not losing control over car when brakes applied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xulfiqar View Post
    - meaning that you have to replace all brakes everytime you hit the pedal. the brakes in a large truck are massive and generate stupendous amounts of heat - some applications even have a spray to assist the brake cleanup and cool down.

    There are alot of heavy trucks and SUVs with OEM semi metallic brake pads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gradeH View Post
    i dont think so these brakes will help you, as by pressing the padal hard you can easily lock wheels. the only thing these cars need is ABS to assist you in not losing control over car when brakes applied.
    But when moving downward hill with too much breaking or even in local driving, by few repeated hard stops brake system get heated and unable to perform effectively. Ceremic brakes can be used to avoid this situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revengez View Post
    There are alot of heavy trucks and SUVs with OEM semi metallic brake pads.

    exactly - they use semi metallic ceramic pads, you need some sort of reliable brake with a load of 70 tons, even if you have a compression brake.
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    Quote Originally Posted by revengez View Post
    But when moving downward hill with too much breaking or even in local driving, by few repeated hard stops brake system get heated and unable to perform effectively. Ceremic brakes can be used to avoid this situation.

    thats because you are supposed to use engine brake assist when going downhill.
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    topic has shifted
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    Quote Originally Posted by jz View Post
    topic has shifted
    To get back on topic, let me ask this question:

    What are the improvements that you are looking for from the stock setup that you have on now? In other words, what deficiencies in the stock setup have you noticed that you would like to improve.

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